badboyben All American 7631 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Store Owners Hope Hillsborough Street Revitalization Has Begun
RALEIGH, N.C. -- It was a groundbreaking for the new Central YMCA in Raleigh on Tuesday. But there is perhaps greater meaning under the surface. Some see the project as the long awaited first step in revitalizing Hillsborough Street.
More than 20,000 cars a day travel the thoroughfare, and more than 30,000 students go to NC State. But staring out on all that energy are pockets of empty buildings.
Val Valentine owns property on Hillsborough, including University Towers. He says the street needs an infusion of money, like the funds spent on Glenwood South.
“We're like a red-headed stepchild,” said Valentine.
But this week, the city did approve $5 million for street improvements on Hillsborough. That includes building three roundabouts.
“Slowing down the traffic is a good idea, I think,” said student bookstore owner Rodger Berg. “You know, a 25 mph speed limit sign might have worked as well.”
Berg said he’s worked at four major universities
“I have to say it's the most boring of any of the ones I have worked at,” he said.
Hillsborough Street is more than 200 years old, built as a thoroughfare from the Capitol. And some dream of seeing it as a signature area of the city. But for now, critics say there is no signature, just paper.
Those closely following Hillsborough Street improvements say about 10 new businesses have opened on the street in the past year and a half. But by the same token, about six or eight businesses have also closed on Hillsborough during that same time frame." |
http://www.wral.com/news/9401793/detail.html6/21/2006 7:01:51 PM |
Wolfpackman All American 1882 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have to say it's the most boring of any of the ones I have worked at" |
funniest shit i've read all day6/21/2006 7:05:14 PM |
jsncc587 Veteran 382 Posts user info edit post |
that hurts coming from a book store owner. 6/21/2006 7:09:17 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72825 Posts user info edit post |
here we go again 6/21/2006 9:32:20 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this since 1987
yawn 6/21/2006 9:34:02 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this since 1987
yawn 6/21/2006 9:36:43 PM |
UJustWait84 All American 25819 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this since 1987
yawn 6/21/2006 9:41:03 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "“We're like a red-headed stepchild,” said Valentine." |
haha fucking gingers6/21/2006 10:01:38 PM |
mbutler74 All American 1002 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this since 1805
yawn 6/21/2006 10:10:36 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
But dey just got da five million dorras.
Now they can start construction on hillsborough and COMPLETELY fuck every transportation route into the university! 6/21/2006 10:17:48 PM |
teh_toch All American 5342 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this since 1987
yawn 6/21/2006 10:53:35 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
6/21/2006 11:18:08 PM |
joepeshi All American 8094 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.raleighing.com/2006/06/reynolds_tower_.html 6/22/2006 12:16:56 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
Someone post a picture of the adult movie theater. 6/22/2006 6:47:45 AM |
pack1 Starting Lineup 75 Posts user info edit post |
Interesting stuff....
http://www.hillsboroughstreet.org
According to City leaders, a roundabout at Morgan/Hillsborough should be done at the beginning of 2007, and they are in the design stage of another roundabout on Hillsborough. Evidently, that is what the $5 million is for... 6/22/2006 7:09:36 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72825 Posts user info edit post |
6/22/2006 7:13:08 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Those closely following Hillsborough Street improvements say about 10 new businesses have opened on the street in the past year and a half. But by the same token, about six or eight businesses have also closed on Hillsborough during that same time frame." |
With that kind of success rate and local support who wouldn't start a business up on Hillsborough?6/22/2006 7:35:35 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
^so q shack/raleigh joe's closed. what else has in the past year? 6/22/2006 7:45:57 AM |
robster All American 3545 Posts user info edit post |
the ice cream place, although that wasnt exactly the main hillsborough st. area. it was pretty close. 6/22/2006 8:04:36 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
which ice cream place? only ones i'm thinking of are gelato, the dunkin' donuts/?baskin robbins and ben and jerry's 6/22/2006 8:06:07 AM |
Protostar All American 3495 Posts user info edit post |
How about we fix the fucking street itself first? 6/22/2006 8:34:21 AM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
How about we fix the fucking street itself first? 6/22/2006 9:30:13 AM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Evidently, that is what the $5 million is for" |
Quote : | "But this week, the city did approve $5 million for street improvements on Hillsborough. That includes building three roundabouts" |
durr6/22/2006 10:37:35 AM |
bdgates All American 730 Posts user info edit post |
Earlier this year there was a plan to have something like 8 - 10 traffic circles all along the street 6/22/2006 1:43:31 PM |
Schuchula Veteran 138 Posts user info edit post |
God, why do the have to keep building nice stuff around here? Just let it stay a craphole, geez. We don't deserve any better. 6/22/2006 3:50:53 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But this week, the city did approve $5 million for street improvements on Hillsborough. That includes building three roundabouts." |
Traffic on Hillsboro St. is not bad enough to prevent people from going there. GG on anything that makes traffic better, but this won't do shit for business.
Quote : | "Val Valentine owns property on Hillsborough, including University Towers. He says the street needs an infusion of money, like the funds spent on Glenwood South." |
In other words... I am a wealthy landowner. I'd like for the city to throw an assload of money into the area surrounding my property so that I can become even more wealthy at no cost to me. It would be too much to ask for landowners such as myself to do anything to help the area in which we have a stake.
The main reason I avoid Hillsboro St. is the parking. I go a lot more often during the summer when school is out. Fix parking, get the people who have a stake in Hillsboro St. to put forth some effort/money, and the rest will follow.
Skack for City Council.
[Edited on June 22, 2006 at 4:17 PM. Reason : s]6/22/2006 4:15:31 PM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
it's not that hard to park on hillsborough. i've never had to look for more than a couple minutes. 6/22/2006 4:19:30 PM |
Ernie All American 45943 Posts user info edit post |
the first step in this process should be killing all the fucking weeds in the sidewalk and planting some trees
that shit looks skanky 6/22/2006 4:20:56 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
they've been talking about this on tww since atleast 2004
yawn
[Edited on June 22, 2006 at 4:33 PM. Reason : ^how bout they get rid of some of the fucking ghetto ass bums on hillsborough st.] 6/22/2006 4:33:19 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the ice cream place, although that wasnt exactly the main hillsborough st. area. it was pretty clos" |
Cream and Bean.
The location downtown also went under.6/22/2006 4:37:33 PM |
Skack All American 31140 Posts user info edit post |
Cream and bean sounds like something dirty. 6/22/2006 5:22:07 PM |
ambrosia1231 eeeeeeeeeevil 76471 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, it does. 6/22/2006 5:30:11 PM |
Deshman007 All American 3245 Posts user info edit post |
^never thought of it like that....yuck 6/22/2006 5:32:40 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72825 Posts user info edit post |
I'll believe it when they start digging and everyone starts complaining about the construction. 6/22/2006 6:04:29 PM |
Johnny Swank All American 1889 Posts user info edit post |
No way in hell will the Homeowners Association behind Hillsborough get behind this. It'll bring people onto Hillsborough, and those people bring cars, drinking, and piss to be dealt with.
Now, if you bought your place around, oh, 1882, I feel for you. Really, I do. All those other fucks can piss off. Those folks would rather have a dead Hillsborough st with winos and crackheads than Glenwood II. 6/22/2006 7:14:10 PM |
Thorsten All American 1809 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " “We're like a red-headed stepchild,” said Valentine." |
fuck you!6/22/2006 7:33:59 PM |
qntmfred retired 40628 Posts user info edit post |
^^ they just need a little "persuasion"
some hard, blunt persuasion to the face
[Edited on June 22, 2006 at 7:35 PM. Reason : .] 6/22/2006 7:35:14 PM |
countrygirl All American 788 Posts user info edit post |
I have seen visualizations from Kimley and Horn about Hillsborough St area. It is a nice layout, but I disagree with some of what they want to do. Hillsborough St is planned to be a 2 lane road again to be more pedestrian friendly. And they have considered the homeowners, business owners, City of Raleigh, and NCSU in this design and a lot are wanting this to happen.
[Edited on June 22, 2006 at 7:51 PM. Reason : ] 6/22/2006 7:49:59 PM |
EhSteve All American 7240 Posts user info edit post |
tear it all down and build a shopping center.
that's what they really want to do. 6/22/2006 8:18:36 PM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Are there any plans to build some pedestrian bridges? Seems like if they drop Hillsborough down to two lanes then there will be constant traffic that will make it harder to cross the street. If they keep the stoplight for each crosswalk system it would further add to the bottleneck.
I avoided driving on Hillsborough (opting for Wade) even before mention of all this mess. 6/23/2006 7:37:52 AM |
Grapehead All American 19676 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He says the street needs an infusion of money, like the funds spent on Glenwood South." |
the difference is, glenwood south has lots of bars and draws its own crowd. no one who owns property on or near hillsborough will allow new bars to be built, and are trying to get the current ones removed. that limits profitability greatly.6/23/2006 8:14:53 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
not to mention that glenwood is like 4 lanes wide in each direction
here is what i want to be done
1. fix the road so its not so shitty 2. make the sidewalks better and plant some fucking trees 3. get rid of the ghetto ass bums 6/23/2006 8:25:50 AM |
Str8BacardiL ************ 41752 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No way in hell will the Homeowners behind Hillsborough get behind this. It'll bring people onto Hillsborough, and those people bring cars, drinking, and piss to be dealt with.
Now, if you bought your place around, oh, 1882, I feel for you. Really, I do. All those other fucks can piss off. Those folks would rather have a dead Hillsborough st with winos and crackheads than Glenwood II." |
6/23/2006 8:28:16 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "not to mention that glenwood is like 4 lanes wide in each direction " |
we're not talking about near the mall. glenwood south is two lanes each direction (plus parking on either side). it's pretty much the same size as hillsborough.
[Edited on June 23, 2006 at 8:37 AM. Reason : or maybe i'm retarded -- certainly a possibility.]6/23/2006 8:36:36 AM |
Wraith All American 27256 Posts user info edit post |
They should start construction now, that would give the Wolfline another excuse to be late all the time. 6/23/2006 9:41:39 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
They really need to tear hillsborough street down and rebuild it with the same design philosophy as North Hills II: slow roads for cards to cruise to a parking deck, everything else designed around walking.
Not only would that make the place worth a damn, but it might also attract more interesting people to NC State university. Now that they've kicked us nerds to Centennial Campus, main campus has become way too pink and faggoty. 6/23/2006 10:02:22 AM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Are there any plans to build some pedestrian bridges? Seems like if they drop Hillsborough down to two lanes then there will be constant traffic that will make it harder to cross the street. If they keep the stoplight for each crosswalk system it would further add to the bottleneck.
I avoided driving on Hillsborough (opting for Wade) even before mention of all this mess." |
that is the whole point of the project. To make the area less friendly to traffic and more friendly to pedestrians. To make it so that people only use it if they want to go to something there instead of using it as a main street to get to downtown. They want people to use Wade or Western instead.6/23/2006 10:14:09 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
^Stuff that they all want and would like to see but it will still have a high volume of traffic no matter what. 6/23/2006 10:40:35 AM |
nothing22 All American 21537 Posts user info edit post |
if they opened a cook-out across the street from campus it'd be lights out
lights out 6/23/2006 10:44:57 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
No way dude.
Cook out is garbage food and Hillsborough already has a burger joint. 6/23/2006 10:46:54 AM |