makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
I am selling my 91T in hopes of buying and racing an e30. Anyways the car has 203,000 miles on the chasis, and about 30,000 on the engine. I have a set of 93 wheels with R-compounds on them, and 6 91 wheels with azenis on them. The car has tokico 5-way adjustable shocks, stock springs, intake, tko 2.5 inch dp, 3 inch single exit magnaflow exhaust, mbc, Defi boost gauge, front addco sway bar, prothane bushings, ebay short shift kit, 2 sets of used carbotech XP8's and XP9 track pads, and an optional Cobra race seat. With a few unecessary items removed, the car currently weighs 2760 lbs wet without driver. In the right hands this is a FAST track car! Will trade for a beat up e30 that I can strip down and track and cash.
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Asking $8,000
Max
[Edited on October 2, 2006 at 8:46 AM. Reason : .] 10/2/2006 8:45:18 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
3 things..
1. everyone sellin an mr2 t thinks it's gold and ask some astronomical amount i saw one with a blown head gasket for 3500. are u fucking kidding me
2. also in this pict you just got passed by a GOLF. it's impossible to be fast BWHAHAHA
3. BAN
10/2/2006 9:00:45 AM |
The Cricket All American 2302 Posts user info edit post |
Its not worth $8000 or anything near that realm to anyone here. 10/2/2006 10:13:47 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
I've ridden in that car and its suprisingly quick and grips like a demon. It would be a great beater for anyone that likes track events but wouldn't want to risk their own equipment. 10/2/2006 10:16:22 AM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
I dont know if an $8000 car can be called a beater 10/2/2006 10:19:23 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
-Relative to personal budget. 10/2/2006 10:31:17 AM |
MattJM321 All American 4003 Posts user info edit post |
that's like ahmet wanting a crapload for that volvo 10/2/2006 10:31:45 AM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
1. No golf passes me! 2. It has a very new engine and I have already put too much money into it not to try to get what its worth. 3. If you buy it, maybe you can be a bad ass instructor like me one day. 10/2/2006 10:38:44 AM |
SandSanta All American 22435 Posts user info edit post |
Just ask for new T-Tops though.
10/2/2006 10:39:19 AM |
underPSI tillerman 14085 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=317756 10/2/2006 10:43:05 AM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
Price has dropped to $7,000 10/3/2006 8:43:40 AM |
BoBo All American 3093 Posts user info edit post |
Is this car street legal at all? 10/3/2006 9:40:13 AM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
It is completely street legal, I drive it everyday. 10/3/2006 2:03:15 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
why is it that you think a beat up e30 will be a better car......you're just trading up to a bigger money pit that doesn't already have a turbo 10/3/2006 6:34:19 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
i have ridden in this car too...and it is very very badass on track... 10/3/2006 7:03:57 PM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
I am going to road race wheel to wheel, and there is no competitive or populated class with an MR2 turbo. There is however a class called Spec E30 with a bunch of competition. 10/4/2006 8:32:15 AM |
kssimmon New Recruit 3 Posts user info edit post |
I could take that mr2 with my 1997 del sol dohc vtec..... easy, and i wouldnt try to sell my car for a dime over 6000. are you seriously trying to get 9000 for that car, are you seriously even trying to get 7000 for that car? I bet that golf had you in that race...... 10/4/2006 9:16:53 PM |
Jvp7800 All American 709 Posts user info edit post |
^ I hope you are joking. A del slow beating an MR2, not a chance unless its heavily modified. I bet you think its badass since it has V attack. MR2's are fairly quick cars and handle pretty damn good. I am sure you can find someone to give you 7000 for it. Check ebay. They are becoming rare. 10/4/2006 10:54:37 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
they are not any more rare than his b16 delsol
stock it's not worth more than $3000 and that's not even factoring in the 200,000+ on the body aftermarkt parts for the most part do not add value to the car......
and btw that delsol is a good 200lbs+ lighter than his car and makes all it's power high in the rev range which is where you want it on a track.....so don't discount it so much
if makoff wants to make his money back, he should try to get as much of the car as possible back to stock and sell the rest of the parts on an mr2 forum
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 12:02 AM. Reason : .] 10/4/2006 11:58:18 PM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
hahahahhhahahahahhhahahahahhhahahahahhhahahahahhha 8000 hahahahhhahahahahhhahahahahhha 10/5/2006 12:17:07 AM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
I figured no one on this board would have the money to buy it for what Im looking for. I think I will have better luck posting up flyers when I do track events.
Quote : | "I could take that mr2 with my 1997 del sol dohc vtec..... easy, and i wouldnt try to sell my car for a dime over 6000. are you seriously trying to get 9000 for that car, are you seriously even trying to get 7000 for that car? I bet that golf had you in that race......
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1. I never said 9000, 2. If you werent a fucking idiot you would know the golf and I werent racing, its called HPDE, you probably don't know what that means, but its basically a driving school on track. 3. I can guarantee if you take your super sweet JDM tight del sol on track I will embarass you with my MR2. 4.The only difference between dead babies and a watermelon is that one is fun the smash with a sledge hammer and one is a watermelon.10/5/2006 11:17:58 AM |
garfus99 All American 3984 Posts user info edit post |
^ number 4 is very disturbing 10/5/2006 11:19:47 AM |
kssimmon New Recruit 3 Posts user info edit post |
so basically, i'd still kill that mr2 turbo. It doesnt take an ammateur driving school on track to know that a 1991 toyota mr2 turbo is around 2750 pounds in curb weight, and pushing roughly 200 hp's if you rev it up to the point almost past redline. You couldnt bring your car down to the weight of a del sol (2190 lbs) unless you ripped out practically everything but your drivers seat and your racing pedals you probably bought at auto zone because you thought it'd make your car look more "professional racing" style and faster. my engine granted was pushing 170 hp's stock when it came off the block, until i put camshafts, cam gears, intake manifold, throttle body, headers, hollowed cat, cat back exhaust, and a greddy stage 3 T on it. The funny part is that my car's pushing around 310 horses right now, and i'd be scared to race you only because if i all out raced you, i'd probably be facing another snapped front passenger side axle because no matter what rating axles i put on my car, the horsepower always finds a way to break it. The even more funny part is that i could probably kill your piece of shit mr2 by granny shifting at 5,000 rpms if i just turned my vtec controller down a little bit in rpms. Dont call a sol a "del slow" unless you really know what you're talking about ammateur, you prob. wont be able to sell that mr2 for 7000 unless you find another mr2 worshiper like yourself who probably has sex mr2's when their owners arent looking, and he fails to notice the 200,000 on your chasis before he ups and wastes all his money on your stupid piece of shit. 10/5/2006 11:42:56 AM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
Hey sounds like you have a sweet life dude. Front wheel drive is awesome btw. Have you ever driven your car on track? like a race track, not tokyo drift style in parking lots? I am not exactly an ammateur driver either, I am actually a qualified driving intstructor for NASA, PCA, and THSCC so maybe I could help you out, you sound friendly enough. Also this car is putting down around 220-230 to the REAR wheels, and with the current setup is usually a little faster than a bpu e36 M3 with a good driver around a track.
Man shit talking about how fast our cars are on the internet is badass! 10/5/2006 11:55:58 AM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
^^ as I say to all you amateur "racers" out there-- I will race ur silly little girl car in our gas whore Lincoln LS any day of the week. 1/4, 1/2. or track- u name it.... and the glory of it will be that I wil be running the seat warmers, climate control,. and gps while I laugh at you trying to learn how to quick shift
mwahhahahahahahahahahaha
The domestic says: "I'll eat you alive bitch!" 10/5/2006 12:45:17 PM |
OmarBadu zidik 25071 Posts user info edit post |
^ still waiting 10/5/2006 12:50:23 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
^^what crack are you smoking? 10/5/2006 12:53:59 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
^^ahahaha- you stay out of this... Our time will come after I get the new intake on..... Let me have my fun with wannabees already
^ absolutelely none- first off I can guarantee that mr "del slow" doesn;t have any of that work done as he would have mentioned it initially if he did- shit I can go find some web post with a listing of work someone did to their LS and pretend it is mine if i wanted to- lol
but the man muscley v8 rear w. Drive would have it;s way with that sassy lass
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 12:57 PM. Reason : .] 10/5/2006 12:54:48 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
^plz don't embarass yourself anymore your heavy ass v8 would end up in the wall if you tried to follow a delsol around a corner 10/5/2006 1:06:19 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha--- first of all- if you re-read my post you will take note of the sarcastic/comical overtones... Secondly- Off the line or top end that "heavy ass V8" would tear up a decent chunk of vehicles including fuckin del sol- as far as handling- I would never even attempt to say that an LS handles better than a baby car like a del sol, miata, etc... However, I would say it is relatively clear that you have never driven an LS b4... They handle surprisingly well- not too far a stretch from my old vr6 and with the center of gravity where it is it handles far better than any other 4 door sports sedan I have driven. very comparable to a BMW 5 series 10/5/2006 1:14:44 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha You are comparing a lincoln to a bmw? jAHAHAhAhHahaHAh 10/5/2006 1:26:12 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
lol off the line? you do know there is no off the line in HPDE...you pull out of the pit and take a warm up lap then you can start driving hard as you pass the green flag...and by that time your heavy ass v8 would be a spec of dust in most peoples mirrors. 10/5/2006 1:28:06 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
^ Quote : | "1/4, 1/2. or track" | hence the "off the line/top end" statement.... wouldn;t stand much of a chance on anything but track and
^^you tell me if they are comparable.... http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/comparison/results.html;_ylt=AlE6TU5EodHNzvaV0ryGTtUTc78F?pagetitle=overview&carid0=17315&carid1=16849&compare=Compare+cars
about a $3000 difference (of course the bmw runs more)
Lincoln: 3.9L V8, 32 valve, 280@6000 hp BMW-3.0L I6, 24 valve, 215@6250 hp
options available on interior are comparable if not facoring lincoln and also take into concideration repair costs and life of vehicle
of course we are nt comparing '06- lets try the one i am talking about in '02 model
read up:
Quote : | "For example, the wheelbase of the '02 Lincoln LS is 114.5 inches; the overall length, 193.9 inches. That makes the LS appreciably bigger than the cost-competitive BMW 3-Series sedan, which is much smaller at just 176 inches long, and with a wheelbase of only 107.3 inches. Even the 5-Series BMW sedan is smaller than the LS - just 188 inches long and with a wheelbase of 111.4 inches. And only the six-cylinder 525i ($35,950) and 530i ($39,450) are remotely cost-competitive with the Lincoln; to get a V-8 5-Series, you'll have to step up to the $51,200-$53,900 540i. It's a much more capable car than the LS, of course, but it's also priced at least $10,000 higher than the most expensive LS you can buy.
Also take note of the fact that the Mercedes C-Class (either the $30,550 C240 or the $36,950 C320) are likewise dinkier cars than the LS (with a wheelbase of just 106.9 inches and an overall length of just 178.3 inches). The C-Class Benzes also offer no available V-8, and their strongest available six - the 215-hp 3.2 liter engine used in the getting pricey C320 - is no more powerful than the Lincoln's base engine, and much less powerful than the LS's optional 252-hp V-8. And the bigger, more stately E-Class - at $48,450 to start for the V-6 equipped E320 - is so overpriced compared to the V-8 Lincoln LS that it's hardly equitable comparing the two. And the nearly $50k E320 is still smaller than the LS, too, just 189.4 inches long, with a wheelbase of 111.5 inches. And you still have only a 215-hp V-6, by the way.
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[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 1:38 PM. Reason : .]10/5/2006 1:33:25 PM |
STIFFY Veteran 162 Posts user info edit post |
is this kid really serious??? god i hope he is being sarcastic.
hey, my friend has a lincoln with a 400+ cubic engine thats half a football field long. i bet that thing could kick some major ass since its got such a HUGE engine.
get a clue kid. 10/5/2006 2:45:16 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
$12 and a ham sandwich 10/5/2006 2:47:04 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
I love how (with the exception of NEON) everyone who has posted has less than 1000posts- lol
and yes- i am sure ur friend has a town car with crazy horses- difference is, LOOK At THE BODY OF THE LS FUCK STICK- it is not in any way shape or form a fuckin towncar or continental boat- it is a "sports sedan" with almost an identical body style as a BMW 5 series as previously stated.
I'm not really arguing anything other than for the fact that am bored. But anyone who says a Del Sol in a 1/4, 1/2, full mile run would beat an LS V8 (not the 6) is a fucking moron and has absolutely no clue what he is talking about-
as is someone who would say the LS is Quote : | "half a football field long" | --- 10/5/2006 2:50:46 PM |
STIFFY Veteran 162 Posts user info edit post |
who gives fuck really...
its still a lincoln.
lincolns, buicks, crown vics... my grandma loves'em 10/5/2006 3:00:02 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
and that is exactly what somone with zero (o) knowledge of vehicles would say-
btw: does your grandmas buick do 0-60mph in 6.42 seconds and have a top end (stock) around 142mph? no? The LS does- hahaha
and just on the comp. a Del Sol with a chunk of work is lucky to run 0-60mph in under 8sec. and (if the engine does fall apart first) will get up to 130mph top end.... downhill, on a 3 miles stretch-lol 10/5/2006 3:04:35 PM |
STIFFY Veteran 162 Posts user info edit post |
yea, some who knows vehicles buys a lincoln. your shit is still slow and has terrible resale value. how about i give you 5 dollars for it and a STFU. stop trolling other peoples threads... this guy is tryin to sale a car and you come in with some shit about a del sol and how your stupid ass lincoln is soooo much faster. whoopty fuckin dooooo.
get back to selling some x-box's or something.... "FUCK STICK" 10/5/2006 3:12:26 PM |
ncemt_03 All American 5453 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha- UH OH!!! now look whos angry- ahahaha... as far as trolling threads--- Had you not been "trolling: and read the whole thread you would see where the Del Sol issue started. Secondly, Lincolns (especially the LS) hold their value better than 80% of vehicles on the road.
here is my advice- b4 you decide to dive in and knock on someone or a vehicle you may want to research it so as not to sound like a fuckin moron- Had you typed in "Lincoln LS V8" into google you would have seen that since 2002 it has been one of the top rated vehicles in every category (handling, power, comfort, value, etc) by almost and automotive group or association-
How does it feal to look like a retard? all I have read from you thus far is: "word words words, my grandma like lincolns and buicks, word words words, sell an xbox"- lol 10/5/2006 3:22:01 PM |
STIFFY Veteran 162 Posts user info edit post |
i think we are skating across the real issue here.
you still drive a lincoln. >.<
oh yea, forgot... words words words words... my grandma drives a lincoln... words. words.
words.
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 3:30 PM. Reason : awea] 10/5/2006 3:28:59 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
LOL LOL LOL LOL
where is the subscribe button on TWW????
did someone say lincolns handle? LOL
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 3:35 PM. Reason : fda] 10/5/2006 3:34:22 PM |
Norrin Radd All American 1356 Posts user info edit post |
omg not a 6.42sec 0-60 lmfao what a waste of cylinders and displacement
my 1995 4 cylinder is quoted from the factory at 6.7......please sit down and park your grandma's car
oh and btw the factory delsol vtec is quoted at 7.4......not that these paper numbers mean anything but it's definately not the 8 secs you make it out to be 10/5/2006 3:34:23 PM |
Golovko All American 27023 Posts user info edit post |
6.4? lol i think even my RSX was faster than that shit...0-60 on paper.
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .4] 10/5/2006 3:35:55 PM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
So lincoln dude your cars sweet, do you wanna buy my car? 10/5/2006 4:46:01 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
ncemt_03: You said "They handle surprisingly well- not too far a stretch from my old vr6 and with the center of gravity where it is it handles far better than any other 4 door sports sedan I have driven. very comparable to a BMW 5 series "
I was responding to this claim. HP doesn't have a goddamn thing to do with handling. And the BMW 5 will eat your lincoln alive in any handling test and sure as hell on any track.
0-60 in 6.anything is not something to brag about. Hell Cadillac has options on nearly every model for under 5 second vehicles. That's when you can START to claim having a quick straight line vehicle.
Basically you would get eaten straight-line by a plethora of 4-bangers, and would get demolished on the track by about 1/2 the cars in the world. 10/5/2006 4:58:00 PM |
tchenku midshipman 18586 Posts user info edit post |
theres no way a del sol is frickin' 2200 lbs
the MR2 will whoop the LS' ass anywhere
the MR2 will whoop the Del Sol's ass on a track
[Edited on October 5, 2006 at 5:13 PM. Reason : ] 10/5/2006 5:13:30 PM |
dave421 All American 1391 Posts user info edit post |
Bump for you. Think I've seen you at a Tarheel event a while back. Good luck selling it here though. Anything over 20% of it's value is "too expensive" here. I assume you've posted it on tarheel/NASA/SCCA's fs forums? May try Triad's also if they still have it.
as for delsol boy, you're an idiot, sol vtec is 2560lbs. and a stock mr2 turbo is faster in all regards. modified, the sol needs much more work to be faster (straight or track). And yeah, I'm a former sol owner and guarantee I know more about them than you or anyone else on this board. PS, you're breaking axles because you're an idiot.
Lincoln boy, shut up about your damn Lincoln. It's a Ford, i.e. it's a POS. Please educate yourself and realize that it is in no way a "better" vehicle than a BMW (or even an Accord for that matter).
For those that are digging on his price, give him a break since he probably didn't realize that tww is full of people that paid $5 for their brand new car and everything else is too expensive. ANY car that an instructor drives is nearly guaranteed to be in excellent condition with a lot of thought put toward any modifications. All work performed is typically going to be better than your typical car seller as well. His asking price is a good deal for a car that has already proven to be safe, fast, and reliable on track. Go buy a $4k mr2 and you will spend a good bit to make it track worthy. 10/5/2006 11:27:56 PM |
makoff New Recruit 23 Posts user info edit post |
bump 10/6/2006 3:42:25 PM |
baonest All American 47902 Posts user info edit post |
you are in the wrong place to sell the car.
hit up GRM or something. sell it on a car forum.
not to some college kids who think they know what to do 10/6/2006 5:10:54 PM |