JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""Obama's great uncle, his grandmother's brother, served in the 89th Infantry Division that liberated one of the subcamps of Buchenwald, according to the Obama campaign."" |
Republican Response: "but-but-but you said Uncle ... and you mixed up Buchenwald with Auschwitz. Therefore, you are a liarhead liarhead, nanny nanny boo boo."
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM. Reason : ]5/27/2008 6:20:08 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
fuck you 5/27/2008 6:20:37 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
painful, isnt it?
5/27/2008 6:21:05 PM |
The Dude All American 6502 Posts user info edit post |
I'm not a republican
I just wanted to say "fuck you" 5/27/2008 6:22:40 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
“I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months, right. Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain.”
True statement?
Now if you can explain his Selma comments, Ill give you a cupcake...yum 5/27/2008 6:26:24 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
How do you know that the people who said that aren't far-left Hillary supporters? 5/27/2008 6:27:13 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
haha i love pricks like ^^ that say rhetorical questions like "true statement"...dumb fucking people i swear 5/27/2008 6:33:47 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
how does that dick sucking go joe? suck any young boys off at nambla lately?
why don't you go get a bill passed by the democrats to give welfare to homo's that don't have a job like yourself. oh wait, you already do. you'd rather suck a dick than get something done. lol 5/27/2008 7:35:45 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
sorry, Rat. it's the Libertarian Party who promotes NAMBLA as a "free speech organization". and, of course, the smattering of closeted Republican Congressmen.
but nice try.
It's also informative for us to see where your own thoughts tend to reside. Thanks.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:04 PM. Reason : ] 5/27/2008 8:01:38 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
at least i try to stay on topic. your thread title talks about "asslicks" - the new backbone of the democratic party
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:09 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 8:06:34 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha
you're insights show us the depth of the liberal parties of this country
fight for the dick suckers long enough you'll all turn into one i suppose
edit: JoeSchmoe,oops i forgot to quote your username a bunch of times to make sure i'm talking to JoeSchmoe 5/27/2008 8:07:37 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
suspend 5/27/2008 8:08:04 PM |
jwb9984 All American 14039 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sorry, Rat. it's the Libertarian Party who promotes NAMBLA as a "free speech organization". and, of course, the smattering of closeted Republican Congressmen.
but nice try.
It's also informative for us to see where your own thoughts tend to reside. Thanks." |
ouch5/27/2008 8:08:51 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "eyedrb: True statement?" |
damn straight.
it was his uncle -- his grandmother's brother. and, as part of the 89th Infantry in Europe, the man liberated concentration camp survivors. did he hole up for 6 months and refuse to speak about it? probably. many others sure did. was the name of the camp Auschwitz? naw, it was Buchenwald. whatever. don't be a schmuck.
so, yeah, when i titled this thread "republican asslicks [who] are a bunch of retards" i was thinking explicitly of yourself, rat, and a few others.
you and Rat sure didn't disappoint. Y'all took the bait, and came right in to live up to the title.
thank you!
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:11 PM. Reason : ]5/27/2008 8:09:34 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
are the hippies getting a knot in their panties with the conservative respond to this thread??
aw.. SOUNDS LIKE SOMEBODIES NEEDS TO KEEP THE HORNETS NEST STIRRED UP MORE. 5/27/2008 8:11:05 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
"the conservative response?" if you mean "real" conservatives, you'll see that they aren't even making noise about this "issue" ... they actually have some integrity and self-respect.
if you mean you and eyedrb, then yes ... it's quite amusing watching you guys continue to dig your own holes.
You, especially. You wear your ignorance on your sleeve. I don't even have to try to pwn you. I just make a thread, and you come in and repeatedly embarrass yourself.
at least, you would be embarrassed if you had any sense. 5/27/2008 8:19:21 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
I fail to see where I embarrassed myself Joe.
Its not a big issue, but he did get his facts wrong. At least this one was much much closer to some truth as oppossed to his selma speech.
But Im trying to have a discussion, you seem more interested in insults and name calling.. then claim your opponents are the babies. why? 5/27/2008 8:23:38 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
i didnt say you embarrased yourself (that was Rat) ... i said that you continue to dig your hole
here, try this:
Quote : | "I had a uncle who was one of the, who was part of the first American troops to go into Auschwitz Buchenwald and liberate the concentration camps and the story in our family is that when he came home, he just went up into the attic and he didn’t leave the house for six months, right. Now obviously something had really affected him deeply but at that time there just weren’t the kinds of facilities to help somebody work through that kind of pain." |
there. now its a completely factual, completely true story it was true anyhow, save the singular confusion over which concentration camp was which.
now, what exactly is your problem, again? that Barack Obama isn't a Holocaust Scholar? You know what? I'm okay with that. Because, unlike his predecessor in the White House, he'll be able to locate his own ass without a map.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 8:44 PM. Reason : ]5/27/2008 8:40:34 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Joe, I agree. However, I could do the same with McCains gaffe over sunni and shia. In both instances they knew what they were trying to say.
But you continue to ignore the selma speech. 5/27/2008 8:48:27 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "they actually have some integrity and self-respect." |
yep. and your entire party lost all of its with jimmy carter and then bill clinton came in to remind us the next time 5/27/2008 8:51:10 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I could do the same with McCains gaffe over sunni and shia." |
understanding the basic fundamental differences of the TWO MAJOR FACTIONS currently driving an ONGOING HOT WAR .... you know, the one we've been in for 5 years, with no end in sight, 4000+ soldiers dead, 20,000+ maimed, and we have been spending $200 Million per day (Congressional Budget Office) ...
I think that's a BIT MORE IMPORTANT to understand who these people are that are fighting this war, if you're trying out for the military's C-in-C job, than it is to know the precise historical details about where each WWII concentration camp was located.5/27/2008 9:08:59 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
do you HONESTLY, put down your emotions and views, think mccain doesnt know the difference? How many times has he been there?
Or do you simply think he just mispoke? And have to cling to it.
again, my point wasnt about the severity of the error, but your attitude change on who made the error. I think mccain mispoke. I think he clearly knows the difference between the two. I also think Obama might have mispoke, but I could see him exaggerating to make more of a statement. I think that by his endless BS he said in selma.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:14 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 9:13:34 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
McCain misspoke? i think not. it appears to be a fundamental misconception, or even just a complete and willful disregard for the facts.
Quote : | "March 18, 2008 Amman, Jordan
Mr. McCain said several times during his visit to Jordan – during a news conference and a radio interview — that he was concerned that Iran was training members of Al Qaeda in Iraq. The United States believes that Iran, a Shiite country, has been training and financing Shiite extremists in Iraq, but not Al Qaeda, which is a Sunni insurgent group.
“We continue to be concerned about Iranian taking Al Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back,’’ Mr. McCain said at the news conference. Asked about that statement, Mr. McCain said: “Well, it’s common knowledge and has been reported in the media that Al Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran. That’s well known. And it’s unfortunate.”
It was not until he got a whispered correction from Senator Joseph I. Lieberman of Connecticut, who was traveling with Mr. McCain on the trip, which is a Congressional delegation, that Mr. McCain corrected himself.
“I’m sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not Al Qaeda,” he said.
--http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/03/18/mccain-misspeaks-on-iran-al-qaeda/ " |
I mean, it's as if the facts don't matter, only the outcome. Which,as I understand, is to "bomb bomb bomb bomb bomb Iraaaaaaaan."
Look, did Barack have a misunderstanding of some facts of WWII concentration camp history? sure. he confused the name and/or location of the two death camps, Auschwitz and Buchenwald.
For my own admission, I used to say my grandfather was shot during an historic air battle over Berlin. later i found out it was an historic air battle over some tiny hamlet on the way to some other German industrial city. was my "gaffe" a misunderstanding of the facts? sure.
McCain, OTOH, wants to lead this war -- for another 100 years -- and expand it further into the region. YET HE BARELY UNDERSTANDS WHO THE PLAYERS ARE.
and that, is just fucking
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:35 PM. Reason : ]5/27/2008 9:26:03 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah eyedrb, there's really no debate here. Getting a couple of concentration camps mixed up that don't even pertain to anything in today's world is not nearly as bad as mixing up the main two factions we're fighting against in our war today. That'd be more like mixing up the Germans and the Italians in World War II. If someone had done that shit they would have caught some flak for it. 5/27/2008 9:35:29 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
my uncle saved auschwitz too
but actually did. not fake did to steal more welfare votes
just think, one day you guys might actually attract hard working voters. or just voters that make an honest living and try to raise moral kids that believe in something in life besides placating the gay and minorities.
one day you might find your individual dreams are worthy of this world too. not some marxist machine that wants to control you instead of protect you.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:55 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 9:49:31 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
wow 5/27/2008 9:52:15 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
wow 5/27/2008 9:53:11 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
So basically when Obama mispeaks it's because he's only human, but when McCain mispeaks then corrects himself it's because he's an incompetent hawk? 5/27/2008 9:56:21 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
these pansies are just pissed because mainstream america has been sick of their nonsense shit ideas for the past 40 years and only gave them a chance with 2 presidents in the past half century
5/27/2008 9:58:37 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Do you honestly think there is a comparison between confusing two concentration camps in a story that was told to him by someone else and McCain confusing Sunni and Shia (especially in the times we're facing)? I know that's a loaded question but I think it's fair. If you disagree with me that's cool because you're one of the more rational people on here, but I just don't think these two things compare at all.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 9:59 PM. Reason : ] 5/27/2008 9:59:10 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
INORITE
We are supposed to DEFEND the sunni and shia as liberal nazis. And as such we are given a free pass from doing our european history 101 hw.
isn't that why we are nominating obama? o wait..... 5/27/2008 10:01:11 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Rat, do you even realize how little credibility you have? I mean, the people who support the same things you do think you're fucking batshit crazy and don't want anything to do with you. The only possible reason I can imagine for you being so irrational and insane is that you're actually a liberal who is satirizing conservative points of view and if that's the case you fail at that as well because you're so goddamn annoying. 5/27/2008 10:04:45 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
how dare we speak up against obama 5/27/2008 10:06:14 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I doubt that anyone in Washington cared about the difference between Sunni and Shia before 3 years ago. McCain has been to Iraq 9 times and I'm sure that he's become familiar with the issue, but it's still relatively new information and he's not beyond misspeaking.
As far as Obama and Auschwitz, I really don't care and am having a hard time understanding why the media has latched on to it so hard.
Basically it takes more than someone mixing up their words for me to write them off as a bumbling idiot. 5/27/2008 10:10:11 PM |
RSXTypeS Suspended 12280 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "As far as Obama and Auschwitz, I really don't care and am having a hard time understanding why the media has latched on to it so hard.
Basically it takes more than someone mixing up their words for me to write them off as a bumbling idiot." |
the president of the united states forfeits any right to 'mix up' words. Its a pretty big fucking deal when the leader of the 'free world' fucks up something like this...whats next? declaring war on national TV on the wrong nation because he mixed up the names? 5/27/2008 10:14:06 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
I'll give McCain the benefit of the doubt on his gaff. If he starts bombing Saudi Arabia instead of Iran though we've got problems.
The only reason the media latched onto Obama is because Fox News did and all the other stations would get called liberals by people that aren't ever going to watch their channel anyway if they didn't go ahead and report it. 5/27/2008 10:14:54 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
nvm
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 10:19 PM. Reason : non issue] 5/27/2008 10:18:40 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
^ insightful
sigh, way to fuck it up dnl
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 10:19 PM. Reason : ] 5/27/2008 10:19:24 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
woulda left it but then rat and others woulda came in and kept bringing up that selma thing 5/27/2008 10:21:27 PM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Its a pretty big fucking deal when the leader of the 'free world' fucks up something like this...whats next? declaring war on national TV on the wrong nation because he mixed up the names?" |
Hopefully Congress catches his misspeak when they vote on the declaration of war. Misspeaks are the main reason behind our system of checks and balances.5/27/2008 10:21:41 PM |
eyedrb All American 5853 Posts user info edit post |
Joshua, very well said.
I keep mentioning his Selma speech where he embellishes abit to an audience who I guess he didnt think it would matter. I think he very well could have known what his uncle did, but tried to make more of an impact with Auschwitz bc its more known. Maybe. THe line of selma BS is the foundation for my opinion.
Obama: What happened in Selma, Alabama and Birmingham also stirred the conscience of the nation. It worried folks in the White House who said, “You know, we're battling Communism. How are we going to win hearts and minds all across the world? If right here in our own country, John, we're not observing the ideals set fort in our Constitution, we might be accused of being hypocrites.†So the Kennedy's decided we're going to do an air lift. We're going to go to Africa and start bringing young Africans over to this country and give them scholarships to study so they can learn what a wonderful country America is.
This young man named Barack Obama got one of those tickets and came over to this country. He met this woman whose great great-great-great-grandfather had owned slaves; but she had a good idea there was some craziness going on because they looked at each other and they decided that we know that the world as it has been it might not be possible for us to get together and have a child. There was something stirring across the country because of what happened in Selma, Alabama, because some folks are willing to march across a bridge. So they got together and Barack Obama Jr. was born. So don't tell me I don't have a claim on Selma, Alabama. Don't tell me I'm not coming home to Selma, Alabama.
History: *Barack Obama, Sr. attended the East-West Center, set up in 1960 by the U. S. Congress and President Eisenhower.
*Selma happened in 1965, when Barack Obama was four, and after the death of John F. Kennedy.
*The 16th Street Baptist Church bombing happened in 1963, when Barack Obama was two.
*Barack Obama, Jr. was born in August 1961.
So basically Barack Obama was born in 1961 because his father got to go to school in 1960, due to a program approved of by "President Kennedy", in response to Selma, which happened in 1965.
I guess he "mispoke" there too, or made it up. Im curious your spin on this one fellas.
[Edited on May 27, 2008 at 10:33 PM. Reason : .] 5/27/2008 10:30:05 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
^"i trust him to run the country more than that old fuck warhawk mccain"? 5/27/2008 10:32:50 PM |
Neil Street All American 3066 Posts user info edit post |
It's admirable that Obama's great uncle served in the 89th Infantry Division in WW2. However, I don't think it qualifies Obama for anything. I do think it's petty crap that everyone is making a big deal of the story.
This isn't like Hillary's story about coming into Bosnia under sniper fire, which was a deception that was clearly intentional. 5/27/2008 11:17:39 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
his grandfather also fought in WWII... my grandfather also fought in WWII...
neither of those facts qualify either of us for anything... other than the right to be proud of our family members who served, and SPEAK about them on motherfucking MEMORIAL DAY -- whether the person speaking is running for political office or not.
OBAMA: my great-uncle liberated Auschwitz ... oops I mean Buchenwald.
is like me saying
JOESCHMOE: my grandpa got shot while flying in a B17 over Berlin... oops, I mean Dinkledorffburger.
what the fuck ever. these misspeaks are trivial. theres no conspiracy, theres no deception. Its a whole lot different than:
CLINTON: hey, I know alot about war. I flew into Bosnia under heavy sniper fire... oops I mean on a clear, calm day with birds and rainbows.
or worse yet:
MCCAIN: hey I wanna bomb Iran. I dont know the difference between Sunni and Shi'a until Lieberman whispers in my ear. But it doesn't matter 'cause we gonna be there 100 years. yeeeehaw, motherfuckers. eat that shit! 5/28/2008 1:54:04 AM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
John McCain: "yeeeehaw, motherfuckers. eat that shit!"
We endorse that wholeheartedly. Too bad you democrat Stalin lovers don't have any balls these days to actually accomplish anything. You honestly think you'll get anything done with both the congress AND whitehouse? think again. you'll have too much in party cannibalism
you know what my fellow far left wing nut jobs? there's other failed countries out there that love your ideas and are implementing them right now and absolutely loving it. feel free to move to them.
don't fuck up ours plz. 5/28/2008 8:12:13 AM |
SkankinMonky All American 3344 Posts user info edit post |
The first 4 years of the next president, whoever it is, is going to be cleaning up George Bush's mess regarding domestic and foreign policy. 5/28/2008 8:18:28 AM |
Dentaldamn All American 9974 Posts user info edit post |
Rat is a CS major
lets just leave this alone. 5/28/2008 8:47:28 AM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
^go look up cs at any other school you NC hick.
oh that's right, you're used to cow college terminology. my bad. 5/28/2008 8:57:02 AM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
rat is about to get suspended 5/28/2008 9:22:45 AM |
spöokyjon ℵ 18617 Posts user info edit post |
Stupid fucking thread title.
But Rat should be suspended.] 5/28/2008 9:37:22 AM |