iphotou All American 13047 Posts user info edit post |
You do you feel Obama should select as his running mate and why? or Who should he not select and why not? 6/4/2008 6:39:06 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Nancy Pelosi.
She just seems like a smart... god I can't even finish typing that. I have no idea though. 6/4/2008 6:45:12 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
He should not select Hillary because there is too much bad blood between the 2 and their supporters. After all his "time for change" rhetoric, it would look hypocritical to pick the kind of Washington insider that he's been blasting over the last 4 months. 6/4/2008 6:55:00 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Ted Strickland: Ohio Governor. He's got executive experience to balance Obama's legislative experience and as a Hillary supporter that could help bring the party together. And Ohio is definitely a swing state.
Kathleen Sebelius: Kansas Governor. A red state governor with executive experience and a strong history of bringing red's & blue's together and as a strong women could help bring over some Hillary supporters.
Those two would be strong balancing forces. But I don't think he'll pick either of them.
I think he's going to stack his cabinet with big names from all across the party. Some former Clinton people, some new people, and probably Edwards and maybe Richardson. And I'm beginning to think he might pick Hillary because its the strongest message of healing he can send. Very few Obama supporters would see her as a first choice, including myself, but if he makes can make it into a message of healing the party and then healing the country rather than a washington insider vs outsider then I could see him going that route.
My personal taste would be Obama-Edwards 08, but I'd still vote for an Obama-Hillary ticket if they had the right balance of advisers, cabinet members, and other officials. 6/4/2008 7:07:05 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
hillary does not want the VP spot, she wants to be Co-president 6/4/2008 7:11:35 PM |
Shaggy All American 17820 Posts user info edit post |
imo i think whoever gets the second most electoral votes should be the veep
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 7:12 PM. Reason : s] 6/4/2008 7:12:51 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
hillary hasn't shown she can be a team player--i don't think obama could trust her to know her role as VP 6/4/2008 7:15:15 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i like ed rendell but he strikes me as someone that will have some kinda dirt on him that kills their chances
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 7:16 PM. Reason : or jim webb out of VA]
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 7:17 PM. Reason : i see hillary almost as a thomas eagleton type person] 6/4/2008 7:15:51 PM |
Boone All American 5237 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "hillary does not want the VP spot, she wants to be Co-president" |
I think the Romans have a lesson to teach us about that.6/4/2008 7:19:53 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
I would be Obamas best pick. I'll train him in all the ways of Fascism
6/4/2008 7:28:16 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
the last thing we need is to have Bill fucking Clinton back in the white house. like we need that kind of baggage with him fucking interns and shit. Plus, they might do some sort of Vincent Foster thing on Obama, he doesnt want them hanging around.
Obama needs to go this without her. the KS governor would be good. so would Richardson.
as for hillary, she should be given the post of Supreme Court Justice so she'll shut up already. Truthfully, though, I think she'd actually do a good job there.
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 7:36 PM. Reason : ] 6/4/2008 7:31:09 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
i agree with everything but this
Quote : | "Truthfully, though, I think she'd actually do a good job there." |
6/4/2008 8:03:44 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
we need to get just enough judges on there so that RVW doesnt get overturned....that would make me super happy cause i love seeing repubs pissed about something...bring on gay marriage lol 6/4/2008 8:11:04 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
spite is not healthy 6/4/2008 8:15:20 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
He should pick whoever decreases his chance of getting elected the most. 6/4/2008 8:27:03 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
A moderate with foreign policy experiance, preferably female.
Centrist Republican or former would be ideal. 6/4/2008 8:50:57 PM |
Charybdisjim All American 5486 Posts user info edit post |
What would be wrong with Clark- other than not popular with the base and he's old? Seems it would lessen the apparent lack of military know-how on the ticket, which some people consider all-important. 6/4/2008 9:05:57 PM |
JoeSchmoe All American 1219 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Centrist Republican or former would be ideal." |
no, fuck placating the Republicans. they've done nothing but flush this country down the shitter. Democrats don't have to pander to them to get votes.
'Bama needs to pick someone who increases his voting base and can be an asset for supporting his weaknesses, i.e., foreign policy and executive experience. Richardson would be ideal in that area, though there are other problems with that pair-up
Hillary's a tough old bitch, and she needs to be handled smoothly so she doesnt turn her supporters bitter. but she would be a liability, i think, as a running mate. just give her a spot on SCOTUS and call it even.
EDIT: actually, Clarke ^ might not be so bad... i have to remember though... wasn't there something wrong with him, electability-wise?
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 9:10 PM. Reason : ]6/4/2008 9:08:00 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What would be wrong with Clark- other than not popular with the base and he's old? Seems it would lessen the apparent lack of military know-how on the ticket, which some people consider all-important." |
If this was true at all, Kerry would have won in '04.6/4/2008 9:24:47 PM |
HUR All American 17732 Posts user info edit post |
hillary as VP would be the poison pill for obamas campaign 6/4/2008 9:29:07 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
clarke is obvious sec of defense material 6/4/2008 9:31:33 PM |
bcsawyer All American 4562 Posts user info edit post |
it doesn't really matter. he won't pull many swing votes, but McCain will. Obama is a charismatic dude that will appeal to the left-wing base of the Democratic party, but not to the center. McCain will mop the floor with him. 6/4/2008 10:01:35 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
overall i would rather obama go at mccain without her...i think i just now decided that 6/4/2008 10:05:48 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it doesn't really matter. he won't pull many swing votes, but McCain will. Obama is a charismatic dude that will appeal to the left-wing base of the Democratic party, but not to the center. McCain will mop the floor with him." |
Yeah... ok. 6/4/2008 10:14:10 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
Bill Ritter?
Hasn't been governor of Colorado long, but he has experiance as a DA, is popular across party lines in his state, especially in rural areas, worked as a missionary in Zambia for two years - seems plausable. 6/4/2008 10:16:15 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
^ I agree...if you look at the states that Democrats have to win....Obama dosent do well.
I still cannot believe he is the best candidate that the dems have.....
Zero international experience......barely any domestic experience, and hes as far left as they come.....Not the best way to pick up voters......DEMOCRATS, WAKE UP....YOUR PARTY HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY THE EXTREME LEFT. I THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED YOUR LESSON IN 2004 WITH KERRY. 6/4/2008 10:16:49 PM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
idk i wish a reporter could at least leak like a list of 10 or something....seems like i can think of maybe 7 or 8 total for this
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 10:19 PM. Reason : ^duke can you edit all caps rants or something? shits annoying...his mind is obviously settled] 6/4/2008 10:18:40 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I agree...if you look at the states that Democrats have to win....Obama dosent do well.
I still cannot believe he is the best candidate that the dems have.....
Zero international experience......barely any domestic experience, and hes as far left as they come.....Not the best way to pick up voters......DEMOCRATS, WAKE UP....YOUR PARTY HAS BEEN HIJACKED BY THE EXTREME LEFT. I THOUGHT THAT YOU WOULD HAVE LEARNED YOUR LESSON IN 2004 WITH KERRY." |
The only people I've heard this from are the people who would never vote for a Democrat anyway.6/4/2008 10:32:59 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148438 Posts user info edit post |
Obama was rated the most liberal senator in the entire senate...fyi 6/4/2008 10:34:17 PM |
IMStoned420 All American 15485 Posts user info edit post |
according to the same people that rated Kerry the most liberal in '04 too I bet. 6/4/2008 10:36:22 PM |
Scuba Steve All American 6931 Posts user info edit post |
Jim Webb, Secretary of the Navy under Reagan, Vietnam vet. Only person with substantial national security credentials to minimize McCain's advantage in this area. Currently Senator in Virginia.
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 10:43 PM. Reason : .] 6/4/2008 10:43:01 PM |
slamjamason All American 1833 Posts user info edit post |
^^^^^ For DNL, here are 16, mostly limited to Senators and Governors. I guess they are sort of ranked in order of liklihood, I havn't put a lot of thought into that.
1) Jim Webb - Senator, Virginia 2) Bill Nelson - Senator, former Governor, Nebraska 3) Bill Nelson - Senator, Florida 4) Evan Bayh - Senator, former Governor, Indiana 5) Bill Richardson 6) Wesley Clarke 7) Ted Strickland - Governor, Ohio 8) Hillary Clinton 9) John Edwards 10) Kathleen Sebelius - Governor, Kansas 11) Brian Schweitzer - Governor, Montana 12) Tom Carper - Senator, former Governor, Delaware 13) Bill Ritter - Governor - Colorado 14) Ben Cardin - Senator, Maryland 15) Byron Dorgan - Senator - North Dakota 16) Brad Henry - Governor - Oklahoma
[Edited on June 4, 2008 at 10:47 PM. Reason : more ^] 6/4/2008 10:46:49 PM |
ActionPants All American 9877 Posts user info edit post |
2:1 odds it'll be Jim Webb or Brian Schweitzer
3:1 Kathleen Sebelius but probably not because Hillary will raise a stink if he picks a woman who is not her 6/4/2008 10:46:56 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
There is no e in General Wesley Clark.....FYI 6/4/2008 10:59:55 PM |
wilso All American 14657 Posts user info edit post |
sebelius or webb, but i'd rather it be sebelius - she eliminated the $1.1 billion deficit in kansas and she's got a lot of bipartisan and moderate appeal - her father-in-law is a republican congressman, and she appointed a bunch of republicans to her cabinet
webb seems kind of odd.. he wrote the screenplay for Rules of Engagement. 6/4/2008 11:55:13 PM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
sebelius did the state of the union rebuttal and had the personality of a wet rag. 6/5/2008 1:39:35 AM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
That's probably a good thing. You don't want a Veep with a dominating personality. 6/5/2008 2:00:42 AM |
GrumpyGOP yovo yovo bonsoir 18191 Posts user info edit post |
I almost want to say Edwards, but then again I'm pretty sure that much optimism crammed into one ticket would make me diabetic. 6/5/2008 4:37:25 AM |
wolfpackgrrr All American 39759 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I was thinking Edwards too but I don't know if that would actually happen. 6/5/2008 4:40:52 AM |
sarijoul All American 14208 Posts user info edit post |
more evidence for jim webb:
'Webb's Audition: Blasts McCain, Assesses Obama's Appalachia problem' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/05/webbs-audition-blasts-mcc_n_105382.html 6/5/2008 1:19:04 PM |
kwsmith2 All American 2696 Posts user info edit post |
I am interested in
1) Michael Bloomberg
2) Allyson Schwartz
Both help with the Jewish vote. Bloomberg might also give a boost in Florida and with Business Republicans concerned about Obama's record on the economy. Schwartz might also give a boost in Pennsylvania.
Though it still seems that his best bet is Hillary Clinton and soon. Uniting with Clinton soon, he could play the "I want to be a Uniter. I want to bring everyone together no matter what. I am above all that" card. If he waits then it will look like Clinton is a more calculated choice.
Though I like Webb, I think only Hillary could have picked Webb. He has some serious problems with Women that would only magnify the pain of Hillary loosing to Obama.
[Edited on June 5, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : .] 6/5/2008 1:24:42 PM |
1985 All American 2175 Posts user info edit post |
Colin Powell 6/5/2008 1:41:06 PM |
jocristian All American 7527 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "That's probably a good thing. You don't want a Veep with a dominating personality." |
Obama doesn't have to worry about anyone overwhelming his personality.6/5/2008 1:48:13 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Jesse Jackson 6/8/2008 1:13:13 PM |
pooljobs All American 3481 Posts user info edit post |
Wesley Clarke 6/8/2008 1:15:11 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
I was confident it was going to be Edwards until he claimed no interest. Jim Webb seems a logical bet, though. 6/8/2008 4:35:06 PM |
Rat Suspended 5724 Posts user info edit post |
Hugo Chavez. Doh! US citizenship denied.
hey at least they agree with the same social and economic policies. 6/8/2008 4:42:47 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
Capitalist Dictators > Socialist Dictators
WORD UP! 6/8/2008 4:51:41 PM |