gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
for all chass majors it is said that you would get 3 extra hours of math credit for free upon completion of MA 114,121,131,or 141, with a C or better which I did in MA 121 in fall 08 and they have still not given me the credit. they said on the packet they give it to me when I finish the course. but it has been almost 2 years now. has anyone who has been a chass major ever gotten their credit and when did you get it? or do you need to contact your adviser and manually have them give you the credit. thanks 2/18/2010 12:16:57 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
I clicked... but I shouldn't have. Is that like pushing the "don't push button"? Will the world blow up now?
I think you need to go speak to an advisor. They should know right away.
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 12:21 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2010 12:21:43 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
I was a CHASS major and took MA141 and 241 which are both 4 credit courses. The math courses they require CHASS majors to take are 3 credit hour courses.
If you take MA141, 241, and 242, you'd wind up with 3 additional hours, but they'd mainly count towards your free electives, not some "math credit".
I don't know why you think you would get 3 extra hours of "math credit" for completing courses that are required of your major. I get the feeling you misunderstood something.
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2010 12:35:14 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51908 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, it just doesn't...
...add up. 2/18/2010 12:39:09 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
no i am afraid you did
For a freshman who places into MA 114 or one of the calculus courses MA 121, 131, or 141 at NC State, taking thatcourse at NC State and earning a C or better on the first attempt will earn an extra three hours of mathematics credit. (Theadditional three hours of credit will not be given if a student attempts a lower level math course before taking MA 114, 121,131, or 141 or if MA 114, 121, 131, or 141 is taken at another institution.) In programs that require Statistics as a secondmath course, the extra three hours of mathematics credit can be used as free elective credit.
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 12:47 PM. Reason : http://www.chass.ncsu.edu/docs/keypoints08.pdf]
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 12:52 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2010 12:45:05 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
good news:
i received an email and they said my degree audit ahould be updated in a week with the credits
topic over then 2/18/2010 12:50:17 PM |
Netstorm All American 7547 Posts user info edit post |
I'm clearly a CHASS major, because I can't get past the blatant error in the title. 2/18/2010 1:00:04 PM |
UberCool All American 3457 Posts user info edit post |
i wasn't a chass major, but i couldn't make it past that blatant error either...
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 2:28 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2010 2:27:48 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I'm clearly a CHASS major, because I can't get past the blatant error in the title." |
I used to wonder why there were people in COM 240 that freaked out when the professor said we had to do the mean, mode, and median of a group of 5 numbers.
Not anymore though.2/18/2010 2:46:00 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
I clicked... but I shouldn't have. Is that like pushing the "don't push button"? Will the world blow up now?
the point of writing "click here" was so that people who are not chass majors don't need to click since they would not know or doesn't concern them anyway so why not write click here? 2/18/2010 3:49:15 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
^ i'm not a CHASS major nor was i ever. But i know a lot of people who were, and I know people who work for CHASS. Depending on the question, I would have talked to someone who actually worked in CHASS and found a legit answer for you.
when i first read this i thought "this kid has to be retarded if he thinks they're just handing out credit."
Then I read what Stein said and thought, "well that makes sense. 9 credits vs 12, that's where the extra 3 are coming from. The OP is just kinda misunderstanding that."
But then I read the actual policy. And the way it reads, they're really giving students an additional 3hrs of math credit for passing MA114, 121, 131, or 141 on the first try as a freshman with a C or better. They're basically giving them credit for MA111 and letting them use it toward their math requirement.
Assuming this is true/the policy isn't just poorly written, I'm not sure how I feel about this. It's one thing to substitute one course for another, but giving them credit for something they never did doesn't quite seem right to me.
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 4:04 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2010 3:54:07 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
yeah free credits are nice, also it helps when you are trying to be a senior one semester early
and for all CHASS majors:
you need to send a email to have the department's dean manually upload the 3 credits to your account or you may never get the credits, that is the catch. also if you never read the packet then you may not even know about it and waste time taking another math when you could of got it free
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 4:08 PM. Reason : ] 2/18/2010 4:07:09 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
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FykalJpn All American 17209 Posts user info edit post |
back in the day i got credit for eng 111 after completing 113, so it's not really a new idea 2/18/2010 4:27:58 PM |
kimslackey All American 7841 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the point of writing "click here" was so that people who are not chass majors don't need to click since they would not know or doesn't concern them anyway so why not write click here?" |
I wasn't trying to hate on you. Don't take this message board too seriously, or it will eat you alive.2/18/2010 4:33:46 PM |
duro982 All American 3088 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah, I believe that came about when they changed it from needing both ENG111 and 112 to just needing ENG111z or whatever. 113 wasn't a requirement, but if you placed into it and passed, you were also given 3hrs for 111 i think. And now I think it's like ENG100 and ENG101 or something. Not really sure, it's been a long time since I was a freshman... I took 111 and 112 if that helps date it.
I guess it's no different than placing out of a language requirement. Just kinda odd that instead of simply placing out, they only give the credit if the student takes and passes a different class. If I take Spanish 2 w/o previously taking Spanish 1, I don't get credit for Spanish 1. At least we didn't when I was a freshman.
imo it should work like this: You place into MA114 or higher. Fine, we'll knock off 3hrs of your required math credits. But if you take something below MA114, it doesn't meet your leftover required math credits. They can count as free electives, but not math.
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 4:52 PM. Reason : .] 2/18/2010 4:47:42 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on February 18, 2010 at 4:50 PM. Reason : ]2/18/2010 4:50:17 PM |
dmballer18 All American 1123 Posts user info edit post |
As a CHASS graduate, I am ashamed of this thread title. 2/18/2010 5:30:48 PM |
craptastic All American 6115 Posts user info edit post |
As a CHASS graduate high school graduate human being, I am ashamed of this thread title. 2/18/2010 5:46:42 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
As a CHASS graduate, I could care less about the title since it got the point across. I don't miss MA 114 or 141 though, or any of the other MA classes I took in undergrad.
In grad school I'm now stuck in budgeting, grant writing, and statistics so I'm getting more math than I want even without any of them being MA classes. Okay grant writing is actually kind of cool, but the others, not so much. 2/18/2010 5:53:38 PM |
mech Veteran 207 Posts user info edit post |
i guess i is one... dumbass... 2/18/2010 6:28:30 PM |
EuroTitToss All American 4790 Posts user info edit post |
2/18/2010 9:43:14 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
2/19/2010 12:00:29 AM |
State Oz All American 1897 Posts user info edit post |
I'm a proud CHASS student. 2/19/2010 12:50:59 AM |
fdhelmin All American 1058 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "click here if you were a CHASS major or is one " |
Today we are all ashamed of CHASS majors at NCSU 2/19/2010 2:00:58 PM |
A Tanzarian drip drip boom 10995 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kefYrJQ9tc 2/19/2010 5:46:28 PM |
Talage All American 5092 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
TodayEveryday we are all ashamed of CHASS majors at NCSU" |
2/20/2010 7:29:17 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
I were a CHASS major. 2/20/2010 8:02:57 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^^CHASS is the 2nd largest college at State, other than turning out engineers, turning out CHASS-holes is a big part of what we do. Don't hate.
According to the CHASS website we have "more than 5,000 students, 600 faculty and staff, and close to 30,000 alumni." From State's website I saw "With 12 colleges representing all major academic disciplines, a student population of more than 31,000." CHASS has 5 k of that, engineering has 8 k, so that leaves 10 colleges to split the left overs. I looked at the other college website's About Us sections, but only CHASS & Engineering cared to prominently display their numbers, in an easy to find way, so far as I could tell form a cursory glance.
[Edited on February 20, 2010 at 8:16 PM. Reason : .] 2/20/2010 8:06:00 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
sorry but chass is actually the 3rd largest and has less than 5,000 students it seems
CALS: http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/enrollmentdata/F09enrol/enrc11.htm HASS: http://www2.acs.ncsu.edu/UPA/enrollmentdata/F09enrol/enrc16.htm
[Edited on February 20, 2010 at 9:15 PM. Reason : maybe someone should email them and tell them to change it] 2/20/2010 9:11:33 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
^Thanks for sharing that breakdown, that was exactly the kind of numbers I was trying to find. Interesting to see that only 3 of the colleges come close to the 5k + range.
I notice those stop at 5th year. Is that because there are currently no 6th year undergrads at State, or because they stopped counting at that point. I have known more than one 6th year undergrad in my time.
Based on the site you shared, CHASS, on the whole, has being going up in numbers the past several years with 4,948 last year being the highest number listed. Either they are counting differently, or they have more recent numbers. I doubt they'd change their website based on a fluctuation of 52 students when they're rounding to the nearest thousand though.
I see 104 students listed under the college "Provost Office." Anyone know what they study? 2/20/2010 10:25:13 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
lifelong education majors?
[Edited on February 20, 2010 at 11:05 PM. Reason : http://www.ncsu.edu/uap/hat/current/ch02/020301.html] 2/20/2010 10:54:01 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
The 104 are listed as a separate college from the life-longers in the fall 09 report.
College All Students Provost's Office 104 Ag & Life Sci 5,465 Design 759 Education 1,962 Engineering 8,368 Natural Res 1,459 Humanities & Soc Sci 4,948 Phy & Math Sci 1,539 Textiles 1,095 Vet Medicine 403 Management 3,196 Undergrad Acad Pgms 1,417 Ag Institute 351 Lifelong Ed 2,753 Total 33,819 2/20/2010 11:33:49 PM |
khufu All American 2103 Posts user info edit post |
PAMS up on it! 2/20/2010 11:53:16 PM |
Nitrocloud Arranging the blocks 3072 Posts user info edit post |
That's too many people getting free credits. 2/21/2010 6:51:01 AM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
not everyone in chass gets free credits for math. only the ones who place in 114 or above on the placement test and then successfully complete it with a C or better and a lot of them don't so they take lower level maths. also like i said you need to remember or know to email the dean and have them manually give you the credits and how many people think know to do that? 2/21/2010 12:10:32 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "only the ones who place in 114 or above on the placement test and then successfully complete it with a C or better and a lot of them don't " |
I find that really hard to believe and looking at grade distributions, it looks like on average more than 80% pass with a C or better.2/21/2010 7:10:39 PM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
to be fair, i would hope you could pull a C in that course if you are a college student. I helped tutor a girl taking that class at one point and I was surprised how basic it was, especially considering the fact there was a lower class that some people had to take who didnt place into this one. 2/22/2010 9:29:27 AM |