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daniel_ellis New Recruit 48 Posts user info edit post |
So, I'm entering my last semester at State and have a ton of room to take free electives, and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations for classes that are fun, useful, or interesting to take. Any subject, any field. Shoot 10/12/2010 3:42:58 AM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
My favorite classes in under grad were Mythology (GRK 310) w/ Dr Packman, ancient philosophy w/ Dr Jesseph (any philosophy course with him would be worth while, although he may still be on reassignment), and intro to Shakespeare (Eng 209) with Dr. Hunt (if you really want a fun course, Dr Hunt, for any English course, is your man). Target Archery was pretty cool too. I took a couple of astronomy courses as well. The astronomy lab component, the whole going star gazing with telescopes thing, certainly created lasting memories.
That course list probably isn't very useful vocationally, but I found them all interesting and fun. I think a professor's teaching style can make or break the fun aspect which is why I included most of the professor names to go along with the subjects.
I'm in grad school now so all my courses have to be so very focused on my field, and I can appreciate the reasoning behind that. But I do miss that once in a lifetime chance that undergrad offered to branch out and learn about a wide variety of subjects without regard to practical application. 10/12/2010 5:31:03 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
If you like economics, EC 302 with McElroy was by far one of the best classes I ever took. You really learn a lot rather than regurgitate material. You do have to pay attention and go to class so if you are just looking for something easy it may not be your best choice. 10/12/2010 7:29:24 AM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
gz390 highly recommends hi 275 or anything taught by Vickery 10/12/2010 7:59:39 AM |
rtc407 All American 6217 Posts user info edit post |
HS100- Horticulture with Bryce Lane. He is an awesome prof! 10/12/2010 8:46:46 AM |
josephlava21 All American 2613 Posts user info edit post |
ECE 301 w/ Alexander. I love this guy [no homo] 10/12/2010 11:49:17 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
personal finance home horticulture human sexuality
there are probably a lot of other cool classes that have been added in the 8 years since i graduated. 10/12/2010 11:55:16 AM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
i havent taken it personally, but I read lots of good reviews about Social Psychology (Psy 311) with Nacoste, also the grade distribution is over 50 percent A i think
also csc 200, introduction to computer science which is an easy A+,you watch video clips half the class and test question are posted online
[Edited on October 12, 2010 at 2:49 PM. Reason : ] 10/12/2010 2:48:28 PM |
darkone (\/) (;,,,;) (\/) 11610 Posts user info edit post |
My favorite free electives: Music Theory - MUS 103 Conceptual Physics: Optics - PY 133 Concepts of Desktop Publishing - GC 410 Basic Technical Animation - GC 330 The whole GIS series - GIS ### 10/12/2010 6:17:12 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
^^Anyone who takes school advice from you might as well throw themselves off a cliff.
My top 3: HI 322: The Rise of Modern Science with Dr. William Kimler. It covers the history of science from the Scientific Revolution through Einstein. Rather, it should go through Einstein, but because Dr. Kimler is a Darwinian historian, we pretty much spent most of the end of the semester on Darwin.
Dr. Kimler knows a staggering amount about his field. It is simply amazing how much he has read about the history of science, but he can converse about nearly every other subject you can think of. I went to his office hours a LOT and we talked about tons of stuff. He has several "best professor" awards from the university. I have since taken his 400-level honors course on Darwin. You will learn a ton from him and write good papers. He remains my favorite professor of my favorite professors.
ENG 221/222: Literature of the Western World I/II with Dr. Hans Kellner. The subject matter is really good, but I learned a lot about writing good essays from Dr. Kellner. His specialty is rhetoric, and so you learn a lot about crafting persuasive essays. My favorite assignments were writing extensions of Homer or the ancient Greek tragedies in the very style of Homer or Sophocles. He has a storyteller's voice and has been a tenured professor for over 30 years. I only took 221; he teaches both 221 and 222 in alternating years, I think, so one should be as good as the other, but I definitely favor 221 with its Greek and Roman mythology.
PHI 205: Intro to Philosophy with Dr. Steve Heiner. There are a lot of sections of 205, but you MUST take Dr. Heiner. He is very serious about getting students to participate and think and discuss these difficult issues and problems in philosophy. It was one of the hardest classes that I absolutely loved. The notes I have from that class will be the ones I would keep over all others (and I will be happy to give you copies if you take the course). He wants students to understand and goes to great lengths to promote study groups and will talk to students whenever he's available. An absolutely fantastic class and professor.
I'd say that philosophy was the most useful, English the most fun, and Kimler the best teacher. If you can take all three, go for it. 10/12/2010 7:53:20 PM |
bobster All American 2298 Posts user info edit post |
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gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
^^ actually why the hell would anyone take advice from you? who the hell thinks philsophy or literture is fun, interesting or useful? not many, thats why almost nobody majors in those-only reason why people take those b/c they fill requirements but OP wanted free electives
but seriously check school tool and look at the comments for csc 200 and psy 311 they are very positive. comments show useful, intersting and fun they are offered each semester by the same teachers, also from what i heard little or no outside of class work is necessary which will make your last semester pleasant
[Edited on October 12, 2010 at 9:29 PM. Reason : ] 10/12/2010 9:11:04 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
My eye sockets do not support the necessary amount of eye rolling to continue dealing with you. If Mr. Ellis wanted something easy, with no work, he would have asked for it. I thought those three classes were interesting, useful, and fun, and therefore I shared my thoughts. You're really missing out if you don't take one of those classes. 10/12/2010 10:36:04 PM |
Supplanter supple anteater 21831 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ENG 221/222: Literature of the Western World I/II with Dr. Hans Kellner. " |
I second this. Especially with the teaching style he was using back then, not sure if he still does it this way.
Here is a tww "school tool" review I wrote about the experience 6 years ago:
Quote : | "course : ENG 221 course rating : 4 - Awesome course comments : If you're into anything ancient or renaissance or anywhere in between you'll enjoy this class. I've heard that this class is fairly interesting regardless of the prof who teaches it.
class : Fall 2004 section 001 grade received : A+ class rating : 4 - Awesome class comments : No homework/quizes/tests. It was like 12 papers of which you had to do about 10. For the most part you had a paper a week, but knowing there weren't any other grade factors (except attendance) it really made it easy to enjoy and learn from the class and truely analyze the material rather than just memorize and regurgitate. This has been my fav class at NCSU thus far & I'm no english major.
instructor : Kellner instructor rating : 4 - Awesome instructor comments : Easy to understand and funny. There were some sex jokes early on - but thats b/c the ancients liked to write frankly about sex. He was totally willing to listen/help if you had any questions. I never had to go to his office hours since he would hang around and talk after class if you wanted." |
Heh, I didn't remember I had called it my fav class. By the time I graduated I had certainly had a lot more that I really enjoyed (or else this would have made it on my list earlier in the thread). But it was a cool course, and different from all the other courses I had taken up to that point.10/12/2010 11:19:15 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
human sexuality sounds interesting, but too bad it is 2 credit hours instead of three and you meet longer, but i guess that is the catch for taking a class like that apparently any of these classes would be good http://www.ncsu.edu/featured-stories/community-of-scholars/apr-2009/inside-the-classroom/index.php
also ENT 305 Intro to Forensic Entomology if you like natural-science courses, is being offered next term, has no prerequisite.
[Edited on October 13, 2010 at 10:34 PM. Reason : ] 10/13/2010 10:18:05 PM |
luke New Recruit 15 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "If you like economics, EC 302 with McElroy was by far one of the best classes I ever took. You really learn a lot rather than regurgitate material. You do have to pay attention and go to class so if you are just looking for something easy it may not be your best choice." |
Absolutely the best class I took at NC State.10/14/2010 12:07:28 AM |
daniel_ellis New Recruit 48 Posts user info edit post |
Thanks, good feedback so far. I'm liking the variety of subjects.
^I tried taking McElroy for a class this semester, but they switched the professor last second... :/ I'm also through with EC/business related classes after this semester, so not wanting any more of those. I'm finishing up GIS as well, so that's out. I was in Soc Psych (311) with Meade, and it seemed somewhat interesting, but not that impressive, maybe it was just the professor. I've heard only good things about astronomy, and that seems reasonable, the only downside is the nighttime lab (but it seems worth it)
Has anybody actually taken human sexuality that could add some insight into it?
It looks like there's several literature suggestions too... with Kellner apparently being a pretty popular professor... and for the record I don't mind a little extra work since I'll only have three other classes, but I'm not trying to get overloaded either.
Has anyone taken any TDE courses? Those seem like they would be somewhat practical, just basically taking shop class, learning how to weld, etc.
And, I really like History and haven't taken a single one since I've been here at State, so I'll have to look for what Vickery is teaching this semester. Any other history suggestions?
BTW, I'm up for either practical or nonpractical classes, whichever one is most interesting/fun. Any other suggestions welcome.
[Edited on October 14, 2010 at 12:37 PM. Reason : :]] 10/14/2010 12:29:50 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
any lit class going to require a lot of reading and writing so i would not recommend if you don't want overload American military history or US naval history (HI 351/352) I heard is good, although you will need to get up early and those seats fill up fast the 200-level ones are boring though, most of that you learned in HS, vickery only teaches history 275 intro to south and east africa, actually the class is not hard, just not good so avoid
[Edited on October 14, 2010 at 2:17 PM. Reason : ] 10/14/2010 2:14:52 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
^You avoid hard work like the plague. What's going to happen when you get a job where you actually have hard shit to do? 10/15/2010 5:23:22 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
dude wtf is your problem? why can't you just stay on topic?. stop worrying about other people and i already told you i am better than you i probably won't have a job where I have "hard shit to do" cause i'm not an engineering major, etc. did it never occur to you that chass majors don't have very high aspirations? one of the reasons why people major in a chass field is because they don't want to do hard work in their job (engineering, physics, etc). idiot
reason why I don't recommend a literature class is not because its hard work (for me its easy) but because there is a lot of it, its time consuming and not something you want to do last semester if you don't have to and why the hell would anyone want to do a lot of work their last semester in college? i'm finishing up all my department requirements my junior year so when I get into my senior year I will have nothing but free electives and easy A's
[Edited on October 15, 2010 at 5:54 PM. Reason : ] 10/15/2010 5:37:41 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i probably won't have a job where I have "hard shit to do"" |
Quote : | "did it never occur to you that chass majors don't have very high aspirations?" |
You should go into comedy. Seriously.10/15/2010 6:18:27 PM |
timbo All American 1003 Posts user info edit post |
^^ Why are random pieces underlined in your post? 10/15/2010 7:35:58 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Considering gz390's brain completely fizzled out at the simple task of "trying to park downtown", I wouldn't listen to a word he had to say.
[Edited on October 15, 2010 at 11:24 PM. Reason : .] 10/15/2010 11:24:23 PM |
AstralAdvent All American 9999 Posts user info edit post |
Any ECE Alexander Class. It will be a sad scene after next semester when i have taken them all, and have to start taking only shitty other ECE profs
I'm AstralAdvent and i approved this message. 10/16/2010 1:06:54 AM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
^^ yeah ok so?, i am still better than you 10/16/2010 1:18:49 AM |
WolfAce All American 6458 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Any ECE Alexander Class." |
After that, take only classes by Keith Townsend. Funniest man alive, if you're into dry deadpan sarcasm and a chill friendly dude.
[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 1:41 AM. Reason : ]10/16/2010 1:41:45 AM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
Let's just go off-topic momentarily. I'm a history major with a job at a doctor's office, and some days are easy and some are hard as fuck. Responsibilities can be hard work, ya know? As for my lack of aspirations, I think I could be a practice manager some day if I don't go into library science.
So gz390 is an unknown CHASS major, probably not history or literature or philosophy, since he can't find a use for those 'in real life.' What sort of job are you hoping to get with 'no hard work'?
[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 12:39 PM. Reason : .] 10/16/2010 12:38:22 PM |
Blade Starting Lineup 51 Posts user info edit post |
I was pretty disappointed to see that I have to take 402 with townsend to take Alexanders 420 course.... That would have been my 4th class with him...
I think that Rotenberg is probably one of the best professors in the ECE department though... 10/16/2010 1:28:40 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
^^ don't see why you want to know my major so badly but what i'm saying is any chass major doesn't really prepare you for a specific job so there won't be much hard work involved--your not really an expert in a field so you won't really apply what you learn in school, its just being able to say you have a college degree, eg. your job isn't really related to history so that's what i mean by there is really no 'hard work' required, i mean you probably don't even need a history degree so why would there be hard work involved... bascically any job you can get with a bachelors chass degree will not have any hard work, the degree really doesn't matter that much get it. yes chass majors don't have high aspirations everyone knows that which means they don't really want to do hard work, yes this is true for most chass people, chass naturally has the easiest curriculums (i mean no technical classes, more choice on what you want to take) so that brings up why I like taking easy classes/avoiding hard work...because your not really expected to work hard in the future with a chass degree so what is the point of doing it now also if i can get good grades in the classes i sign up for what does it matter how hard or easy the classes I take are? if that is even possible, then obviously chass is supposed to be easy.....so I don't see how you can sit there and be angry over the fact i like taking the easiest classes and avoiding hard work
[Edited on October 16, 2010 at 3:42 PM. Reason : ] 10/16/2010 3:24:25 PM |
merbig Suspended 13178 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "because your not really" |
He's not an English Major, Flying Tiger.10/16/2010 9:08:09 PM |
Flying Tiger All American 2341 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "bascically any job you can get with a bachelors chass degree will not have any hard work" |
O rly? How did you arrive at this brilliant conclusion?
Quote : | "so I don't see how you can sit there and be angry over the fact i like taking the easiest classes and avoiding hard work" |
I'm not angry, I just think you're the most amusing idiot I've come across in a while.10/17/2010 12:32:04 AM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
one is salaries are far less, meaning no hard work, thats why most require advanced degrees to do anything difficult with the major, but getting those adv. degrees still get a salary less than engineers, scienticsts, etc.; you don't even need a degree for any job you can get being a chass major, just that it will help increase salary or get the job, yes i know its sad but true, you don't really need the degree so doesn't matter if you do any hard work in college, not gonna matter on the job. everyone knows this its common knowledge, ask any professor in a chass department thats why i am a chass major and have a 3.9 gpa, don't want any hard work in the future might as well take easy classes in college and save my energy you'r not gonna need it on the job anyway......did hard work in competitive gifted/talented high school btw, took 8 AP courses incl. Calc AB/BC, way harder than any class I took in college so now its time to relax ...might as well enjoy college and how can enjoy if you are taking hard classes when you have choice to take easy ones....main point is not gonna matter if you took the easy route in college as long as you perform on your job....hahaha you took all those hard classes for nothing hahaha yeah thats why you're so aggressive in your posts..if you think the work you gotta do is hard thats fine but how is taken hard classes gonna help? it won't...actually i think your just saying that but really are upset inside b/c i avoid hard work "like the plague" and am still better than you
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 1:07 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2010 12:50:31 PM |
xbltheshadow New Recruit 46 Posts user info edit post |
^ Yes, it is going to matter if you took the easy route in college because your future employer will learn within a few weeks that you won't know how to do what is required for that job and probably fire you. Unless you're really looking for jobs with little to no work, then chances are you actually WASTED 4 years here at State because those jobs probably don't require any sort of college degree. There is also a good reason why Calc AB/BC was harder than any college class you've taken, you haven't applied yourself in college to take such courses.
And lol to you thinking you're better than everyone posting in this thread. If anything, you're worse off than a lot of college graduates; employers do care about the knowledge you gained to get your degree, not just the degree itself. 10/17/2010 2:32:07 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
ok first off who are you ? i wasn't even talking to you so why randomly start posting? but anyway no it is not gonna matter fool like I said a chass degree is not a technical degree, which prepares you for a specific job, so any job you can get with a chass degree you don't even need the degree, your only getting it to boost salary and make it easier to get a job, but really to be able to say you have a college degree, this is common knowledge, i am not looking for jobs with no work (e.g. cashier), but I sure as hell know its not gonna require hard work like a engineer or computer sciencist does. Calc AB/BC (which I still got B's in) are harder than any college class b/c of my curriculum, I am in CHASS and classes are not like that, where it is math intensive (MA 121 terminal calculaus which was all I need was way easier, like AP Calc AB/BC divided by 5), that is why I say chass is not supposed to be hard because it doesn't require those kind of intensive classes and therefore you will not be doing a job with hard work--that is my point yes i am better you may not think so but that is the truth... it really depends on what job, most employers see a GPA and thats it, for my degree I don't think it matters that much, (especially a BA) what you learned so what if I take as many easy classes as possible, I still earn good grades in them?
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 3:10 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2010 2:57:25 PM |
EggNogMan New Recruit 24 Posts user info edit post |
gz390: As a disclaimer, no, I am not originally part of this conversation, but since you are on an internet forum, you can expect people to start randomly posting to talk to you. If you want to have a private conversation with someone, do it through private message. I know this won't sway your opinion at all, but I just can't keep quiet toward your miserably misled attitude any longer.
Yes, while humanities degrees are often seen as 'the easy way out' for people that just want a degree under the assumption that they're going to get a job upon graduation, some people also do so out of love for their subjects. While you loathe the idea of getting a degree in philosophy, some people would major in it, just out of love for the subject. The fact that you're bashing the idea of people wanting to take English classes because you claim it's too much work is pure ignorance; if they're interested in the subject matter, they won't mind. The OP did not designate a specific type of class; he just wants something that is reputed for being interesting, or a good, valuable course to take.
That is one end of the spectrum. As for the people that go to college just to get a degree to get a job, there are several critical factors you're forgetting. You have a 3.9 in CHASS. Good for you. What else do you have on your resume? How effective are you at communication? I have a 4.0 in Engineering, and based on what I've seen from you, I know that I can communicate more effectively than you and I assume I would do significantly better than you in an interview. I also have extensive internship experience, extracurricular involvements, and two minors under my belt. Let's say I go apply for every job that you apply to after graduation... who do you think will get the job? Basically, if all you have to show on your resume is a 3.9, you're forgetting that employers also have access to your transcript, and will know if all you did was fluff your so-called "college experience" with blowoff classes. Furthermore, if they see essentially nothing else on your resume, then this will be the kiss of death for you, because I guarantee you will be competing with people with significantly better credentials than you. If an employer looks at your transcript and sees a mess of classes with no meaning, I guarantee you will be dropped to the bottom of the stack, far behind the other CHASS majors who may have had lower GPA's, but exhibit the sense of passion and dedication you clearly lack through their more rigorous schedules and more impressive resumes. I do understand your argument for not having to try in college, but you fail to realize that even if you're winning the battle right now, you will lose the war.
Second, you're forgetting the state of our economy right now. Sure, you could argue that our nation will be out of the recession by the time you graduate, but how can you be so sure of that? Even if it is, that still won't decrease the amount of competition you'll face for jobs. If you haven't noticed, the job market is becoming more scarce. Just because you have a degree does not mean you're going to get a job, despite what you've been brainwashed to think. The fact that you're in a degree which you yourself admit is a useless degree should have been an obvious cue for you. We are in an era in which a college degree no longer guarantees that you will succeed, and the people that have the better degrees will be the ones that take your job.
Finally, that garbage you're throwing out there about humanities degrees not preparing you for a certain job is unjustified. Sure, you won't be working in a chemical plant or anything that involves calculus, but you forget that once again, you have competition. Think of it this way: you apply for a job in sales or something like that. You stroll in, flaunting your arrogance and interview with the employer, emphasizing your 3.9 in CHASS. He asks you questions about your qualifications and experience. You bullcrap your way through the interview somehow and you happen to get the job. Once you get on the job, you learn that interpersonal skills, communication, writing, etc. are very important for your job. Your arrogance about how you beat the system in college makes all your coworkers scorn you. Bragging, with no basis, about how you're better than everyone else will make you the ass of the office really quick, and they will make your lives miserable. I also assume you will probably try to beat the system again at work, thinking that "all I have to do to get my paycheck is do the bare minimum. I just gotta do my 8 then hit the gate." Any report that you have to write will be of miserable quality, because since you always took the easy way out, you will not be ready for the type of work your employer requires you to do. Your boss will question your qualifications and will see you're not getting along with your coworkers. After a while, you will likely be released from the job, and even if you don't get fired, I guarantee you will be miserable. You will likely be marginalized by your coworkers and you will be working at a job for the sake of working at a job. Tell me, I know you have said you just want a job when you graduate. What kind of job are you looking for exactly? If you graduate with the mentality of just getting a job, I promise you will be miserable, because all the jobs you want will be taken by people with more drive and better credentials. If in five years you are happy and successful, I will send you a video of myself eating a boot. ----
For the sake of being on topic, to the OP:
-I second taking intro to philosophy. I had Driscoll, and she had a really unique persona, but she also made sure you knew how to think in her class. Only two papers and two exams were the basis of the grade, so you have time to actually absorb and appreciate the readings. If anyone has better teacher recommendations, look into those as well.
-If this is your last semester at State, you probably have a pretty solid registration time, so getting into some of the higher-demand PE's will be easier for you. I recommend finding a couple PE's you'd like to try out and fitting them into your schedule as a way to just have some fun. 10/17/2010 4:22:41 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
so another random new recruit gets upset after reading one of my post and feels he needs to step up to the challenge, i'd rather not waste my time responding but your post is just too bigoted for me let go
ok i agree some people do want a degree out of love for subjects, but those people are very few and [u]not representative of the majority of chass students who do not have high aspirations...because if you are in chass there are good chances you dont have high aspirations, the kind of jobs you can get show that, very few people will major in philosophy because everybody knows its a useless degree and will not prepare you for a specific job, although it prepares for law school, etc.. english classes are not much work, to me they are very simple and just because i don't write well on this board doesn't mean anything, what i said is most of them are not fun/interesting/valuable/etc. this is why they require you to take eng 101, its the only valuable one you need, the literature courses are useless, do not help you when you have a job, yeah well i don't care if he didn't designate a specific type, philosophy/literature, etc. most of humanities is obviously not useful or valuble because they are not required to know for jobs
yeah i have a 3.9 gpa in chass, but i only said that to emphasize that chass is supposed to be easy and anyone can get a high gpa in it, like myself, because you have the choice of taking easy classes, and most people will because people like taking it easy, unlike engineering, physical and math science, etc, thats why its chass. I'm not trying to brag or be arrogant like you are suggesting, fool. ok so based on what you see from me you can communicate better? what a joke, i don't give a rats ass on i spell or type or some message board where no one knows you, so I can't see how you can be sure you can communicate more effectively, if anything you communicate less effectively because being in an engineering discpline you are not required to take as many humanities/social science classes that emphasize communication and writing skills, finally i am a very effective communicator, i have yet to get less than a B+ on any paper i have turned in during my career (only 2 B+ was in philsophy btw), i also have heard lots of praise from teachers about my writing skills, after all i wouldn't be in a chass discpline if i wasn't good at writing/communicating, yes i know you think i am joking but its the truth, however, although its impressive you have a 4.0 in engineering and all your internship experience, extracurriculars, etc. you are forgetting that you are comparing yourself to chass students who do not have such high aspirations your in a field which prepares you for a specific job, unlike chass majors, its obviously going to be less opportunities for chass students to get internships, experience, etc. because again their fields do not prepare them for any specific job. what kind of jobs do you see when you hear history, english, philosophy, etc..thats right none so what internships/experience?. i'm not interested in competing against people like you and certain i won't have to, i doubt it will be as difficult for me to get a job as you, employers are not gonna care as much think about the differences in the types of degrees, finally you say passion/dedication, but that doesn't beat good grades, if you are passionate or decidated, your grades should show that its the truth. even though you say I do not have "dedication or passion" I can still get my work done and get good grades that of itself is dedication or passion. you act like that is so important but its meaningless if you aren't good. so no you are wrong i will win the battle and win the war.
no need to bring up economy in this argument, for my job aspirations, i am sure there won't be that much competition, and if there is i will be on top anyway, yes i know just because i have a degree doesn't mean i will get a job, but again i will bring up that no job you can get with a chass degree will even require a degree in the first place, the whole point of the degree is to say you actually went through 4 years of college and maybe learned some things that are related, so a degree will only help, well i wouldn't say it is a useless degree i want to get but it's not as useful as a technical degree which will prepare you better for a job, finally, i know college degree doesn't guarantee success, but no one should compete for a job they are so overqualified for, so i don't see what I will really need to worry about
no actually my "garbage" i'm throwing out is very justified. i'm not worried about competition, because competition depends on what job you want, if you'r future aspirations are not as high, which they won't be if you're in chass and you won't know exactly what to do, you won't have much competition, its simple, also you give so many examples thinking i'm arrogant and will behave like that at a job, etc. based on my posts, ok that was entertaining to read but you are wrong and have no idea, and shows you are a fool and gerk, i am actually quite the opposite and wouldn't act like that, and don't see how you can tell from a message board, but i guess you are just an ignorant, so what if "beat the system", again my aspirations are not that high, i'll just get my work done like i do in school which is all A's which is all i aspire to do, if you are doing something as easy as majoring in chass you should be able to get all A's, if you are passionate and have the drive then you'd prove it and be able to get A's in even your hard classes if you take them, if you can't than that doesn't mean anything and your passion or dedication will not matter, it will not show no matter how good you interview, finally, i am not so certain what i will do after i graduate, the focus now is getting as many A's as possible and finishing my requirements, then i will see what jobs i can get related to my major... happy and successful? not likely to happen with people having just a chass degree, do you know any history majors/ philosophy majors / etc. actually putting their degrees to use at a job that pays good money. again its all about your field which determines competition, how much work you will do, anything in chass is the easy way out, for slackers, its sad but the truth, my class rank in the chass is so high even though i don't have much 'drive', you have to admit there are sure to be a lot more people like me so what are you so upset about?, its supposed to be easy getting good grades/doing less work in a chass curriculum, you get good grades in the classes that shows your drive, finally, no i will not be miserable, etc. i will have no problem to be "working at a job for the sake of working at a job" either, apparently you are too much of a simpleton to think people who take the "easy way out" in college won't be sucessful at a job or show passion
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 7:46 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2010 7:28:51 PM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
too many blocks of texts and not enough bold worlds. how am i supposed to know what is important from these posts? 10/17/2010 8:54:57 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25537 Posts user info edit post |
I'll second the HS 100 with Bryce Lane. Very fun class. 10/17/2010 9:29:10 PM |
Snewf All American 63368 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who the hell thinks philsophy or literture is fun, interesting or useful?" |
hahaha
spelling fail
- this motherfucker is not going to find a job unless his family has connections to get him one in which case he'll be just another retard running the world through nepotism
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 9:50 PM. Reason : -]10/17/2010 9:46:19 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
@aaronian. you'r too much of a simpleton to read paragraphs but don't worry you'r not part of the conversation anyway so why don't you just move along now
^ ok. I can see why you are suddenly coming into the topic and being so defensive, b/c you are a literature major according to your biography, sorry if i hurt your feelings, didn't mean to say it to you specifically but i mean in general, wtf is nepostism? anyway don't worry if I can find a job or not, i am still better than you 10/17/2010 10:07:45 PM |
aaronian All American 3299 Posts user info edit post |
@gz390: you're too much of an idiot to remember your own stupid arguments about why vickery is such a horrible professor 10/17/2010 10:16:46 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
@ aaronian. oh thats why you keep making those little sarcastic comments. i was wondering why you kept randomly posting out of nowhere when it wasn't your business. i guess you can't resist the urge because you'r still upset and can't get over the fact someone else was voicing their displeasure about an instructor's poor teaching style on a message board dedicated to talking about teachers and classes but its ok, i do smile when i read them and i'm sure you spend a good bit of time thinking them up 10/17/2010 10:50:54 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "wtf is nepostism?" |
We don't know, you tell us.
Nepotism, on the other hand, is something. Look it up in a dictionary. And in case you still can't see the difference between the two, I will quote Snewf:
Quote : | "in which case he'll be just another retard running the world through nepotism" |
See the difference now?10/17/2010 10:55:01 PM |
aimorris All American 15213 Posts user info edit post |
THIS DUDE CAN'T BE SERIOUS 10/17/2010 11:13:19 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
i just searched and found out what it was so what's the issue here? it has nothing to do with me getting a job or not and i see no reason why it was brought up at all in the first place. actually it might have been a joke, if i get a job it will be based not on family, but on qualifications which i will have plenty of, yes i know you may not think so but its the truth. lol nepositism yeah right thats a good one actually if i needed that i wouldn't even be in college, fool
what i want to know is wtf is this thread attracting so many random people who aren't even posting on topic
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 11:20 PM. Reason : ] 10/17/2010 11:15:18 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "lol nepositism yeah right thats a good one actually[u] if i needed that [u]i wouldn't even be in college" |
HOLY SHIT UNDERLINE FAIL
OK, you have probably corrected it by now, but still, you should be good enough at it to get it right from the beginning.
Anyway, here we go again:
Jesus Almighty Christ, dude. Can't you spell such a simple word?
P.S. I think the word you are trying to say is "neopostism". It means:
New posting style in which key (and random) words are underlined throughout the post.
[Edited on October 17, 2010 at 11:23 PM. Reason : ]10/17/2010 11:20:01 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
Tdub's Next Top Troll Alias 10/17/2010 11:31:57 PM |
gz390 All American 547 Posts user info edit post |
ok, so you were rambling about the spelling especially on a message forum, which I already said I do not give a turd about? yeah that is so trivial its sad however it is spelled you know i was meaning the same... and i see no problem with underlining key words, the function has always been there, and anybody can do it so i see know reason why you must make a big deal of someone doing it i'll probably leave the thread now, there is no point in coming back here i have already proven that my arguments are correct 10/17/2010 11:35:25 PM |
Spontaneous All American 27372 Posts user info edit post |
Classic thread is classic. (That's a tautology, gz390.)] 10/18/2010 1:13:49 AM |
OldBlueChair All American 5405 Posts user info edit post |
lol the underline feature has never been used more than this before. idiot. 10/18/2010 1:22:25 AM |
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