Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " A summer class at UNC-Chapel Hill that lacked any instruction was enrolled exclusively with football players – and it landed on the school calendar just days before the semester started, university records show. The records show that in the summer of 2011, 19 students enrolled in AFAM 280: Blacks in North Carolina, 18 of them players on the football team, the other a former player. They also show that academic advisers assigned to athletes helped the players enroll in the class, which is the subject of a criminal investigation. The advisers also knew that there would be no instruction. " |
So much for the idea that athletes were treated no differently than regular students.
I love how despite the "thorough internal investigation" being released, it took a FoIA request by the N&O to discover that the shammiest of the sham classes were packed with athletes, and steered into those classes by the athletes' academic advisors. It should be obvious to everyone by now that a cover-up is going on, and Thorp and the administration are in full damage-control mode. They released that report as a way to deflect criticism when the truth came out, spinning it all as the work of a "rogue professor" and not an athletic scandal.
[Edited on June 8, 2012 at 11:02 PM. Reason : 2]6/8/2012 10:58:27 PM |
dmspack oh we back 25462 Posts user info edit post |
this thread and the unc scandal:
6/8/2012 11:53:17 PM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
nothing to see here. 6/9/2012 12:15:18 AM |
KeB All American 9828 Posts user info edit post |
So does this reopen the NCAA investigation and cause further punishment?
Does this cause the BOG to finally decide to take notice?
Does the trail lead all the way back to the Dean Dome?
It has been brought up on here before. There is NO WAY that the football players are taking these no show classes and the basketball players aren't invited to the party.
I'm really just happy that the N&O is pressing hard on this. The funny thing is, you are dealing with the Alma Mater of numerous employees at the N&O with this matter. Has to be mixed feelings about bringing down your school. 6/9/2012 12:51:09 AM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
I'll give it to the Daily Tarheel (and by extension the N&O), they report news. They don't tend to care about protecting their school, they have on multiple occasions gone straight for the truth. 6/9/2012 2:05:29 AM |
timswar All American 41050 Posts user info edit post |
Odd, I've thought the DTH (and by extension the N&O) seems like the only ones concerned with protecting the integrity of UNC. Everyone else seems determined to try and cover up the academic fraud issues. 6/9/2012 7:37:04 AM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ Basketball has clearly already been implicated and given the level of this scandal I cannot see any way that the NCAA can simply look the other way. BOG will not take action because the BOG is part of the problem. I want to know if this will finally bring the local pressure to make Bitch release his phone records.
Quote : | "Other records show that football and basketball players made up a majority of the enrollments of nine particularly suspect classes in which the professors listed as instructors have denied involvement, and have claimed that signatures were forged on records related to them. " |
6/9/2012 8:14:48 AM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
followup to sham summer class article
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/06/10/3307752/unc-ch-board-chair-football-class.html
tl;dr UNC board of trustees finds this class "troubling" and Thorp says UNC will take back the $12,000 paid to N'oshow for "teaching" this independent study class 6/11/2012 5:05:25 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "So much for the idea that athletes were treated no differently than regular students." |
Well we all know that's not true already.
Reading the article, don't these departments ever have audits or accreditation reviews?
[Edited on June 11, 2012 at 6:07 PM. Reason : .]6/11/2012 6:02:26 PM |
Flyin Ryan All American 8224 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I want to know if this will finally bring the local pressure to make Bitch release his phone records. " |
What's it matter? He can tell everyone "f*ck you, I don't have to release sh*t."6/11/2012 6:07:01 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
i feel good about another unc internal investigation.
and im also sure that n'osho will have his $12k given back to him to keep him quiet 6/11/2012 6:51:21 PM |
adder All American 3901 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "What's it matter? He can tell everyone "f*ck you, I don't have to release sh*t."" |
Contempt of court becomes a huge issue then (correct me if I am wrong but jail time is a real possibility). What does it matter? I have every belief that there is much more shady shit to be revealed by those records. Why else would everyone be fighting so hard to not release them?6/11/2012 7:50:46 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
^
Flyin Ryan refuses to write out curse words on message boards 6/11/2012 11:43:37 PM |
erice85 All American 4549 Posts user info edit post |
what are we, 12? 6/12/2012 8:49:55 AM |
Wadhead1 Duke is puke 20897 Posts user info edit post |
More worthwhile articles:
http://themountaineer.villagesoup.com/column/columnpost/universitys-response-neither-thorough-nor-diligent/837491?cid=1567410#.T9c1Suq6jL0.facebook 6/12/2012 8:56:14 AM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=178&f=2515&t=9064227
So who copied who??? Lol 6/12/2012 10:11:35 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Nyang’oro took steps to add the course, AFAM 280: Blacks in North Carolina, to the summer schedule." |
6/12/2012 10:23:32 AM |
rflong All American 11472 Posts user info edit post |
^ LOL
This whole investigation is just officer barbrady now... 6/12/2012 11:22:07 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
might have been posted but here is a pdf from the N&O on the courses http://media2.newsobserver.com/smedia/2012/06/08/22/51/1d2hRv.So.156.pdf 6/12/2012 11:33:33 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
^how does that not prove preferential treatment?
54 irregular and/or fake classes. Most students are athletes, by a good margin. Athletes were steered into these courses... 6/12/2012 11:37:27 AM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^Yeah there are a couple courses where there are only 1 or 2 students for the course. Maybe those are "independent study", but that concept is kinda bullshit even without bringing athletics into the mix. 6/12/2012 11:39:41 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
Nothing will come of it. They'll just be allowed to internally sweep it under a rug again and even get help from the top down to do so. 6/12/2012 12:53:58 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
They weren't officially on probation until March of this year I believe, when the NCAA finally made their official ruling
But the fact that this latest bogus summer class with the 100% football player enrollment, changed grades, forged signatures, etc happened in Summer 2011 could be really damning.
The NCAA started investigating their program in Summer of 2010. They're under investigation for a year and they're still cheating? Basically a big "Fuck You, NCAA" 6/12/2012 1:01:31 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
that PDF shows that out of the 681 students enrolled in the shady classes, 398 of them were student athletes...58.4%
if that were representative of the student body as a whole, there would be 10,858 student athletes at UNC 6/12/2012 3:13:14 PM |
xienze All American 7341 Posts user info edit post |
^ There was speculation that UNC left baseball players out that number as well 6/12/2012 3:16:26 PM |
bigun20 All American 2847 Posts user info edit post |
How did he take steps to add the course? I thought he's been out of the country and unable to comment since the whole thing began... 6/12/2012 4:14:53 PM |
uNC SUcks All American 6270 Posts user info edit post |
He wasn't involved until the paper came to light. 6/12/2012 4:29:12 PM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
the scholarly Michael McAdoo was cut by the Rams today 6/12/2012 5:17:51 PM |
TallyHo All American 11744 Posts user info edit post |
Ravens actually. He tore his achilles and was taken to Ball So Hard University Medical Center for treatment, a series of events that he copied directly from Terrell Suggs. 6/12/2012 5:41:39 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the scholarly Michael McAdoo was cut by the Rams today" |
i like the way you worded that and i am going to use it in a tweet to poke some folks lol6/12/2012 8:17:39 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
Sounds like he should have spent more time hitting the books 6/13/2012 1:55:33 AM |
DalesDeadBug In Pressed Silk 2978 Posts user info edit post |
^^^i knew he played for the Ravens, but i typed Rams like a buffoon 6/13/2012 2:02:12 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
6/15/2012 12:05:05 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
awww yeah.
let's spread this shit out, finally! 6/15/2012 12:38:26 AM |
ncsuapex SpaceForRent 37776 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Board of Governors placed the academic fraud case on its governance committee’s agenda this week after rival N.C. State fans and officials raised the issue of disparate treatment. They pointed out that 23 years ago, the board launched an investigation into improprieties within the Wolfpack basketball program and the subsequent findings helped lead to the exits of coach Jim Valvano and Chancellor Bruce Poulton." |
We would've gotten away with it if it weren't for those pesky NC State fans.6/15/2012 8:10:36 AM |
jbtilley All American 12797 Posts user info edit post |
NCSU * NCAA investigates, no major violations were found * Shoes, tickets sold * Students performed very poorly academically
UNC: * NCAA investigates, 9 (is that right?) major violations found * To save time, everything else
So people really got bent out of shape in our case because we had a bunch of student athletes with bad grades... and UNC gives a goodly percentage of athletes in revenue sports As for no-show classes and they are allowed to self discipline within the same corrupt system. But at least their grades weren't C averages.
Someone have the details on what exactly the BoG did in our case? UNC's case? Referring to extra penalties imposed above and beyond self imposed punishments and punishments doled out by the NCAA... because on the surface what UNC did feels orders of magnitude worse. Devil's advocate: maybe UNC's punishment was orders of magnitude worse, the difference being we never recovered whereas UNC will likely recover the instant they get their scholarships back, if they experience a dip at all, meaning 5 scholarships yanked from a football team means practically nothing when compared to yanking 5 scholarships from a basketball team.
[Edited on June 15, 2012 at 8:33 AM. Reason : -] 6/15/2012 8:29:34 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Yes, internal investigations are trustworthy
I laugh every time an organization does this. THIS COP WROTE ME A SPEEDING TICKET, BUT MY MOM INVESTIGATED IT AND DETERMINED ME TO BE NOT GUILTY, KTHXBYE 6/15/2012 8:41:00 AM |
dubcaps All American 4765 Posts user info edit post |
i think it's been posted a few times before, but tyler hansborough's reading of chicken little is pretty amazing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4JieHmC9DH8 6/15/2012 8:53:34 AM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
LOLOLOL
6/15/2012 9:01:10 AM |
justinh524 Sprots Talk Mod 27783 Posts user info edit post |
yes, i called that number when it was new and heard it. great shit.
THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING! 6/15/2012 10:59:30 AM |
spencer All American 3640 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But a scandal was brewing in the years leading up to her retirement, with dozens of courses popping up that had little or no instruction. Student athletes, especially football players, were taking up the majority of those seats. Men’s basketball players were a small but significant minority – in at least two suspect classes a basketball player was the sole student enrolled." |
Quote : | "One message Crowder wrote on her Facebook page also suggests she has had a close-up view of men’s basketball games. On Feb. 6, she comments on a Daily Tar Heel feature about a longtime security official whose job has been to keep unauthorized people from entering the tunnel that leads to the team lockers. Crowder wrote: “We saw him all of the years when we used to come in through the tunnel. He is a very nice man and I miss seeing him.”" |
http://www.newsobserver.com/2012/06/15/2139061/former-unc-aide-was-close-to-athletics.html6/15/2012 1:07:38 PM |
Bullet All American 28336 Posts user info edit post |
6/15/2012 1:10:59 PM |
AstralEngine All American 3864 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "A University issue, definitely not a basketball issue" |
-Roy Williams6/15/2012 2:26:32 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the real story isn't that roy said "it's not a basketball issue", it's that he said it with a straight face. the guy's a pro." | -- Coach L Folwer (@Lee_Folwer)6/15/2012 3:27:24 PM |
ssjamind All American 30098 Posts user info edit post |
picked up some GSL and EDC 6/15/2012 3:34:27 PM |
wdprice3 BinaryBuffonary 45912 Posts user info edit post |
I'm shorting my UNC and picked up some NCSU. Need to put some trailing stops on there and I'm hoping to make a few quick bucks soon. 6/15/2012 3:39:36 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
Dan Kane wrote an article about the AfAm class taught by agent Carl Carey.
Here is the website Carey created as a rebuttal:
http://www.dirtydankane.com/ 6/15/2012 7:45:17 PM |
Lionheart I'm Eggscellent 12775 Posts user info edit post |
^lol yeah lets piss off somebody whose job it is to basically dig up dirt on other people while you and you're associates are fighting off a scandal 6/15/2012 8:35:46 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148329 Posts user info edit post |
BobbyDigital, in case you're wondering, corruptcarlcarey.com is available 6/15/2012 8:53:02 PM |
ctnz71 All American 7207 Posts user info edit post |
What "other students"?6/15/2012 9:37:06 PM |