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258oz of weed


Hahaha they beat me to it

[Edited on June 7, 2013 at 11:11 PM. Reason : U]

6/7/2013 11:10:58 PM

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"Nothing about the weed or the gun is a NCAA violation"

6/7/2013 11:17:09 PM

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They should just send his ass to jail where he belongs then it wont matter that UNC is the scummiest university in the nation.

6/8/2013 7:58:15 PM

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"send his ass to jail where he belongs"


for pot and a pistol? sounds like a nice saturday afternoon.

Another smoking gun (get it?), as if it matters now...

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/06/08/4094266/former-unc-african-studies-chairman.html

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"Emails show Jaimie Lee, an academic counselor for athletes at UNC, sought help from Julius Nyang’oro, who was then the African studies department chairman, to schedule one of the no-show classes at the heart of a major academic fraud scandal."


Also, for future reference, it costs half a mil to spin an athletic/academic co-scandal

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/06/08/4094271/unc-spent-more-than-500k-for-pr.html

6/8/2013 9:48:14 PM

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Oh Dan Kane you beautiful mother fucker you.

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"Julius Nyang’oro, the former UNC African studies chairman at the heart of an academic fraud scandal, had a cozy relationship with the program that tutored athletes, according to newly released emails.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/08/2948647/former-unc-african-studies-chairman.html#storylink=cpy"

6/8/2013 9:56:57 PM

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"Nyang’oro responded: “Driving a hard bargain; should have known.....Will have to think about this, but talk to me....”

Nyang’oro did not schedule the Swahili class, but he did create another one for the summer. Later that day, he emailed Lee: “I have added AFAM 398 to our Summer Schedule…..”

Lee responded with a similar emoticon: “:-) thanks! I appreciate that!”"


lol at the cheaters using smiley faces

and Lionheart, that story was just posted, right above your post...and the link you posted as breaking news about Hairston had been discussed for like 20 posts above where you posted that the other day

i love this scandal as much as the next State fan, but come on man

6/8/2013 10:00:09 PM

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gets appended to the copy automatically, i'm not gonna fucking mess bother with deleting it every time I post a N&O article

6/8/2013 10:01:48 PM

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6/8/2013 10:02:19 PM

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"In one email from September 2009, Cynthia Reynolds, a former associate director who oversaw academic support for football players, told Nyang’oro in an email that “I hear you are doing me a big favor this semester and that I should be bringing you lots of gifts and cash???????”"


so awesome

6/8/2013 10:07:54 PM

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The man deserves a pulitzer.

6/8/2013 10:40:03 PM

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Is THIS enough NCAA??

6/8/2013 10:49:33 PM

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Btw, on all the money going to the PR firm; The whole notion of this not being state money is garbage. If the state or a state organization has access and control of how that money is to be spent, then its the responsibility of the state to spend the money wisely and responsibly and it should be subject to review and consequences. It shouldn't matter that it wasn't raised through taxes.

For instance, what if the state sells land and then spends it all on strippers for the governor, we should just ignore that because it wasn't tax income?

[Edited on June 8, 2013 at 11:37 PM. Reason : ]

6/8/2013 11:36:47 PM

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I saw a breif report last night on the money ($500k?) that was spent on PR in the wake of the scandal, and they did a brief recap of the scandal. I think it was on WRAL. It was after the baseball game, so I was buzzed and tired.

6/10/2013 10:21:12 AM

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I'm as hopeful as I can realistically be about UNC going down, but I don't read anything in that 25-pg pdf that can't be played off as joking around, considering all that has been overlooked so far. Somebody else needs to talk.

6/10/2013 1:36:59 PM

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Washington Times

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"These days, the scandals and missteps and outbreaks of forehead-slapping hypocrisy ripping through the upside-down world of college athletics are frequent enough to provide an NCAA-sized headache.

Gordon Gee, the soon-to-be-former Ohio State president, insulted Catholics, the SEC and pretty much everything short of his Mormon faith and beloved Buckeyes during a meeting with the university’s athletic council.

Rutgers managed to not just botch the slam-dunk firing of verbally abusive basketball coach Mike Rice, but make things exponentially worse at each sordid turn, including hiring a new athletic director, Julie Hermann, with her own history of questionable conduct toward athletes.

Miami football player Dyron Dye filed a police report accusing NCAA investigators of coercing him into incriminating the university’s football program, further muddling a circus-like process that would shame Inspector Clouseau.

And there are the words from NCAA president Mark Emmert’s own, well-compensated, student-athlete-spouting mouth 11 months ago:

“One of the grave dangers stemming from our love of sports is that the sports themselves can become ‘too big to fail,’ or even too big to challenge. The result can be an erosion of academic values that are replaced by the value of hero worship and winning at all costs. All involved in intercollegiate athletics must be watchful that programs and individuals do not overwhelm the values of higher education.”

Remember that? Emmert had just finished turning Penn State’s football program into a smoking crater. Never mind that the Jerry Sandusky sexual abuse scandal didn’t violate a specific NCAA bylaw. The president bypassed the usual enforcement process, imposed unprecedented sanctions and ushered us into the era of the Emmert Doctrine.

That’s useful to remember when looking at the NCAA’s nonaction in the sprawling academic scandal festering at North Carolina. The years-old problem isn’t new. Athletes were steered to no-show classes and independent studies in the Department of African and Afro-American Studies, among the laundry list of academic chicanery. Sixty-seven percent of students enrolled in 54 no-show classes were athletes, according to The News & Observer. Some classes didn’t exist. Grades were changed.

Over the weekend, the Raleigh newspaper revealed a series of emails between former department Chairman Julius Nyang’oro and the university’s group that tutored athletes. The notes showed a close relationship — Nyang’oro was offered everything from football tickets to the opportunity to watch games from the sideline — that helped guide athletes through the path of least academic resistance.

Eligibility, the holy grail of college athletics after the largesse of big-money donors, rules the day.

One lengthy exchange described an academic adviser for athletes negotiating with Nyang’oro to create a no-show class that required only a paper at term’s end.

Another note from a different staffer read: “I hear you are doing me a big favor this semester and that I should be bringing you lots of gifts and cash???????”’

The stench of academic fraud covers this mess.

But where is Emmert? That the scandal is academic and not athletic is irrelevant. The president has already shown a devil-may-care willingness to disregard tradition and intervene at Penn State. There’s no comparison, of course, between a pedophile preying on young boys and the academic mess. But Emmert’s own words, his own made-up doctrine used to justify punishing Penn State for its handling of Sandusky’s off-field depravity necessitates involvement at North Carolina.

Listen to the president: “Our constitution and bylaws make it perfectly clear that the association exists not simply to promote fair play on the field, but to insist that athletics programs provide positive moral models for our students, enhance the integrity of higher education and promote the values of civility, honesty and responsibility. The sanctions we are imposing are based upon these most fundamental principles of the NCAA.”

He was talking about Penn State. That could easily be North Carolina. There aren’t excuses.

Over and over, Emmert pounds the academic primacy of college athletics. Repeating “student-athlete” like some sort of incantation doesn’t make it reality. Not when the NCAA’s entire structure is built on the fallacy of amateurism, the unpaid labor that generates hundreds of millions of dollars each year, free of pesky salaries and workers’ compensation. Take the student away from the athlete and the NCAA is left with a workforce — yes, actual employees — that it can’t use verbal gymnastics to avoid paying.

In Emmert’s biography on the NCAA’s website, after swearing athletes will never be paid under his watch, the president adds, “we’re providing athletes with world class educations and world class opportunities.”

Does what went on at North Carolina sound “world class”?

How much value is the student portion of student-athlete when the athletes are shuffled through a maze designed to keep them eligible, not prepare them for a productive career after athletics?

If the lofty-sounding, ear-tickling, salary-dodging ideas about student-athletes are something more than a hypocritical gimmick to keep the money flowing, Emmert’s NCAA will act on North Carolina. The president’s words demand it. Doing nothing would be the real scandal."


http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/jun/10/ncaa-silence-north-carolina-academic-scandal-speak/?page=all

6/11/2013 10:53:13 AM

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scathing article

6/11/2013 10:58:48 AM

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Yeah but this along with a lot of the other national articles are tying this into the whole debate of student athlete instead of the fact that they broke the rules. I have no problems with players getting benefits and don't think the same considerations about class etc should be considered especially when they have the crazy time requirements for sports.

But these are the rules as they are now and Carolina has blatantly broken the rules and in fact thumbed their noses at these rules and all the other teams and should be punished because they are cheating and gaining an unfair advantage and that's the only thing that should matter here.

6/11/2013 11:18:01 AM

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^Get the fuck out of here with that shit. They're athletes, they're students, very very few of them will go on to make the big bucks in a professional setting, they're not getting degrees in rocket science, the NCAA has strict rules that keep their entire schedule from being filled with practice, they have an entire support staff specifically there to help them succeed.


Every college kid who has had a job while they've gotten a degree has done just as much work with less help. The kids get thousands in tuition, housing, food, training, and a chance to get their skills noticed at the next level.

They get enough.

6/11/2013 4:19:07 PM

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^.

6/11/2013 4:33:47 PM

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Might be a little fun to send a nice email to memmert@ncaa.org and let him know how offended we are about the atrocity going on in Chapel Hill. Its fun. I attached a pdf of the emails.

6/12/2013 10:37:03 AM

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The NCAA was done with their big sanction when they hammered those fucking paedos. They don't have the political will now to hammer another big program.

6/12/2013 11:28:42 AM

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That last article caused me flashbacks of Michigan and the Fab Five debate.

6/12/2013 12:40:34 PM

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The Hitler thing is played out but this one was actually funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxZxNEoTvDw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

6/12/2013 1:24:07 PM

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SI's take on the UNC scandal

http://tinyurl.com/kj4o95f

6/12/2013 1:43:36 PM

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this is like the FDA and approving/denying new medications on the market

6/12/2013 3:02:24 PM

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Interesting how after they were forced to get rid of the sham classes their APR tanks...

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"As far as ACC men's basketball programs go, Duke led the way with an APR score score of 995. Miami followed with a 990 and NC State scored the third highest with a 984. North Carolina was eighth out of the 12 ACC schools (which includes Maryland but not newcomers Syracuse and Pittsburgh) with a score of 959. Wake Forest was the lowest scoring men's basketball program in the conference with a 942.

UNC football was lowest in the ACC and among the bottom 10 schools in all BCS conferences with a 934. NC State football posted their highest ever APR score with a 947. Duke led the ACC football programs in APR for the eighth consecutive year by scoring a 989"

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/ncaa-apr-again-hits-schools-with-lesser-resources/12541451/

6/12/2013 6:40:09 PM

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^lol

ICers don't seem to want to even discuss it...except the one guy who ignores their massive institutionalized cheating and points the finger at one of our freshman orientation classes

http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=78&f=1408&t=11639222

6/12/2013 6:54:47 PM

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^^AHA

^AHA

6/12/2013 7:59:21 PM

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pretty sure that there is a lot of precedent within D1 schools to say that PJ should be kicked off of the team with the whole getting caught with a weapon thing.

6/12/2013 8:27:50 PM

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"Maybe we can hire that state AD member to teach an "athletes only" class ( with a grade average of an A ) over here."

I wonder if the irony was lost on this gentleman.

6/12/2013 8:40:43 PM

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http://www.wralsportsfan.com/former-tar-heel-little-calls-role-in-unc-scandal-childish/12549609/

6/13/2013 1:02:05 PM

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From the SI article:

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"Given all that, yes, it makes sense to believe the NCAA might want to pay another visit to Chapel Hill. After all, academic fraud is a giant NCAA no-no. But I wouldn't count on it. Ever since the Miami enforcement scandal broke in January, NCAA investigators have been fleeing for other jobs in rapid succession (the latest, veteran higher-up Rachel Newman Baker, took a compliance job at Kentucky this week), and I'm not sure there's anyone left to investigate at UNC or anywhere else."


So we can't watch them burn on account of bad timing?

6/13/2013 1:26:51 PM

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so what you're saying is that there are openings for positions that will pay me to stick it to carolina?

6/13/2013 3:58:12 PM

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"The final tally for the accounting firm UNC-Chapel Hill hired to delve into the academic fraud scandal and review various reforms is $941,000, a spokeswoman said last week.

Read more here: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/iteam/baker-tillys-work-on-unc-academic-fraud-scandal-tops-900k#storylink=cpy"

6/13/2013 5:14:05 PM

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^^This is what we need. Someone get to the "looking for jobs" thread in the lounge and get some NCSU faithful in the offices at the NCAA

6/13/2013 6:15:51 PM

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"UNC President Tom Ross said Friday he wants to review the email correspondence that shows a cozy relationship between the tutoring program for athletes at UNC-Chapel Hill and the former department chairman who was involved in creating dozens of bogus classes that helped keep them eligible to play sports.

Read more here: http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/06/14/2964379/ross-asks-to-see-nyangoro-crowder.html#storylink=cpy"


They hits, they keep coming.

6/14/2013 8:29:55 PM

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UNC IS ON THE CASE

6/14/2013 9:00:29 PM

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Glad that nobody, including Martin, thought that reading the fucking emails of the two people who were generating the "rogue" classes to see if there was any collusion was a good idea.

ZERO FUCKING CREDIBILITY.

6/14/2013 9:47:50 PM

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UNC is really insulting the public's intelligence

6/14/2013 11:23:30 PM

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So what's taking so long with the pj thing? UNC tell DPD they would handle the investigation internally?

Also, I've see fingerprint results comeback in a day on the first 48 and that's having the gun and looking for fingerprints to match

6/19/2013 1:07:25 PM

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stop bumping this thread until something happens, what the fuck man

6/19/2013 1:14:12 PM

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More like NCAA Investigated UNC Football Program now shut the fuck up and get on with your fucking lives UNC can cheat all they want while NCSU will get castrated for selling shoes and tickets hahaha in your face

6/19/2013 1:17:31 PM

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We weren't castrated for selling shoes and tickets. We were castrated for letting DT play a pickup game that just happen to have a UNC captain playing in it. That probably cost us a National Championship.

6/19/2013 1:24:06 PM

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"Also, I've see fingerprint results comeback in a day on the first 48 and that's having the gun and looking for fingerprints to match"


Isn't First 48 about murder cases only? Seems like they'd rush those prints especially as the show is named First 48 because of the small window of time you have to solve murders.

That being said - for real, what the fuck? We should know way more by now. Mike and Mike were saying that Roy has to know what happened but won't act on it until it's proven. I can't wait for this to be an agent or booster and indict their basketball program too. They also said PJ was trying to switch seats when he was pulled over.

6/19/2013 1:57:57 PM

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"So what's taking so long with the pj thing?"


They're waiting until the results of the honor court's investigations go public.

6/19/2013 2:23:00 PM

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I heard they had child porn playing on their Kenwood Excelon touchscreen display.

6/19/2013 3:14:37 PM

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^

Don't all college athletes watch child porn? Nothing to see here

[Edited on June 19, 2013 at 3:16 PM. Reason : ..]

6/19/2013 3:16:04 PM

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The porn was being watched by non-athletes as well, so....

6/19/2013 4:52:30 PM

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Had I known this was possible I had enough hertz points to get LB to stay.

6/19/2013 5:08:42 PM

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Child porn was being filmed with the GMC Rear Vision Camera

6/19/2013 8:30:59 PM

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