Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
one hunrid 1/29/2006 9:03:58 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
Version 4.1
the stuff in bold is new from last sunday's version
I assume steelers are going to lose to the seahawks.
Also I will assume a trade between the Jets and the 49ers swapping 1sts
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2006 Draft Order
1. Houston - Reggie Bush, RB USC (Kubiak wants Bush)
2. New Orleans - Matt Leinart, QB USC (he is still the best QB in the draft and is a pocket passer, somthing the Aints wished theyve had while putting up with aaron brooks)
3. Tennessee - Vincent Young, QB Texas ( McNair has tutored him for a while, now he gets the chance to keep the starting spot warm for vince until he's ready. Although I'd laugh my ass off if houston picks young)
4. *San Francisco* - D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OL UVA (I believe this is too high for an OL unless he is a for sure Orlando Pace or Jonathan Odgen, but its the 49ers, they must protect their investment (Alex Smith))
5. Green Bay - Mario Williams, DE NCSU (still Poor Mario )
6. Oakland - AJ Hawk, LB Ohio St (Not only does he look like an oldschool raider from the tecmo bowl era, the raiders need LBs badly)
7. *NY Jets*- DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis (Not a bad situation for the Jets, they trade down and get the best rb in the draft. When Martin leaves after 2006, Williams will be ready)
8. Buffalo - Haloti Ngata, DT Oregon (New Bills coach Jauron is a Defensive coach. They would jump at the chance to get Ngata after badly missing Pat Williams this year and with Sam Adams going into his 14th pro year.)
9. Detroit - Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt (HUGE senior bowl week, now the lions wont be able to trade down and still get him)
10. Arizona - Vernon Davis, TE UMD (This pick gives Denny Green maybe one of the best WRs/TE group in the NFL. Davis is a perfect fit for the Denny Green system in Arizona. He will probably go for a RB in rd 2 again this year as Arrington hasnt panned out so far)
11. St. Louis - Michael Huff, CB/S Texas (What dont the Rams need help at on defense? But this will provide an immediate starter in their secondary)
12. Cleveland - Tamba Hali, DE Penn St. (Mebbe 2nd time will be a charm for the browns drafting penn state DE's. Cleveland needs a pass rusher.)
13. Baltimore - Winston Justice, OT USC (With Ogden and Brown getting into their 11th nfl season next year, Baltimore will need help on their OL, and with Justice they get another athletic tackle in the Ogden mold)
14. Philadelphia - Santonio Holmes, WR Ohio St (With the departure of TO, the eagles are stuck at WR. Reggie brown isnt the answer, neither is pinkston. Holmes gives McNabb a solid down the field threat and is a solid blocker, which is needed in the Eagles offensive scheme)
15. Atlanta - Ko Simpson, S S. Carolina (The Falcons badly need safety help, lucky for them they can grab the 2nd best safety in the draft)
16. Miami - Orien Harris, DT Miami (I really think the Dolphins will make a move for a QB already in the NFL way b4 the draft starts(culpepper anyone?). So with this pick they shore up their interior D-line and add depth to a spot whose starters will be turning 36 and 37 this year. Harris has impressed in recent workouts.)
17. Minnesota - Laurence Maroney, RB Minnesota (With onterrio smith gone, bennett going to be gone and moe williams a FA, the vikings have a chance to add a REAL starting RB who will be able to open up the passing game for Daunte Culpepper, who may or may not be there. It also helps that Maloney went to UMinnesota)
18. Dallas - Marcus McNeill, OT Auburn ( gotta help Bledsoe and his slow release)
19. San Diego - Ernie Sims, LB Florida St. (Perfect fit for Marty's 3-4 D on the other side of Merriman and Marty has a way with other troublemakers)
20. Kansas City - Sinorice Moss, WR Miami (Moss also had a HUGE senior bowl week, and with his speed, will nicely compliment eddie kennison in an offense that really needs a true #1 WR)
21. New England - Manny Lawson, DE/LB NCSU (Manny has done well for himself in the camps, and accordingly moves up into the 1st round to a team who appreciates character as much as athletic ability. Manny has both.)
22. Denver(from WAS) - Jimmy Williams, Safety/CB VT (His 40 time will drop him to about here, but he will be a good NFL safety)
23. Tampa Bay - Thomas Howard, OLB UTEP (LB is a position of need for the bucs, as well as OL, but they are getting the best athlete available and he also fills a need)
24. Cincinnati - Demeco Ryans, ILB Alabama (The bengals NEED defense. Here they get a guy that does not have prototypical speed or size, but is a leader and a smart player. Possibly someone to bring the Defense together at the MLB position)
25. New York Giants - Ashton Youboty, CB Ohio St. (The Giants need defensive help, and having Youboty at CB is insurance in case Will Peterson can not come back at full speed)
26. Chicago - Derek Hagan, WR ASU (Chicago desperately needs a WR to compliment Muhammed, and the Hagan gives them another big receiver perfect for their style of possesion offense)
27. Carolina - Lendale White, RB USC (I really think White made a mistake coming out this year, he would have surely been a top 10 next year. The panthers could definately use him)
28. Jacksonville - Kelly Jennings, CB Miami (Jacksonville desperately needs a solid CB to play on the other side of Rashean Mathis)
29. Denver - Leonard Pope, TE Georgia (A perfect fit for the Broncos, at 6'7" 250, Pope can catch and block(which we all know is important in Denver), not just one or the other like the TE by committee there this year)
30. Indianapolis - Chad Greenway, LB Iowa (With David Thorton likely leaving, this pick makes sense)
31. Pittsburgh - Chad Jackson, WR Florida (With Randel-El possibly headed out, this pick would also make sense)
32. Seattle - Brodrick Bunkley, DT FSU (Seattle needs interior line help. That is where their run defense was exposed many times this season, not to mention the talent level at the DT position is low)
[Edited on January 30, 2006 at 12:40 AM. Reason : .] 1/30/2006 12:40:02 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
bttt 1/30/2006 6:19:07 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
you think carolina's gonna go after another RB early?
thats almost as bad as the saints grabbing ol/dl players with at least 1 day 1 pick every year since 1992 (except for the class of 'ricky)
i think eric shelton will at least get a chance.... who knows though.
[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 2:39 AM. Reason : errick lynne williams.] 1/31/2006 2:38:31 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
well they'll lose foster and davis, so they can easily draft a RB in the first round and have him and shelton play for 1st and 2nd string. i dont want to ignore the other guys like goings and robertson, but i dont think either of them are really the answer. 1/31/2006 2:45:33 AM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
is L. White really gonna drop down that far in the draft?
btw..good post BoobS
[Edited on January 31, 2006 at 12:34 PM. Reason : 69] 1/31/2006 12:32:10 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
It's about time you put Ferguson up where he'll be picked. Offensive Tackle is a very important position, probably with QB & DE probably being the only more valuable positions. (You do have 3 OT's in the top 18) The lowest he could possibly be picked is 6th & that would only happen if Cutler goes before. As I said before though, I think someone will move up to 4th to get him & SF certainly could be that team. But the 49ers management doesn't seem to get it & will drop the ball again. Tampa may offer its first this year & next to get him though. Miami may move up also.
Also, Minnesota would be crazy not to take LWhite. I'd say flip the Panthers & Vikes picks. If Minnesota doesn't pick White, someone else will almost certainly move in front of Carolina to get him (GBay swapping it's 2nd with Chicago would make sense as Chicago could still get its WR a few spots later) I agree with your other picks though. 1/31/2006 2:37:28 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
maroney is simply a better prospect
he is faster, and is very strong
not to mention he is from minnesota
all those things point to him going there
not to mention that maroney is the type of rb that would be great on turf. 1/31/2006 8:01:14 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
white is the best nfl back in this draft 1/31/2006 8:54:51 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
i strongly disagree
he is probably the 3th best in my opinion
behind williams and maroney
look at the team that white played for
no way he plays that well in a real conference like the big 10 or sec
yes i just took a shot at the Pac 10 1/31/2006 8:59:42 PM |
lot2483 Veteran 399 Posts user info edit post |
Nice mock... but I'd bet my bottom dollar that Bunkley goes before Orien Harris. I'd love it if the Panthers got Lendale, but I doubt he'll last that long. Most mocks I've seen have the Panthers getting a tight end, but I'd much rather see them get a running back. 1/31/2006 10:26:34 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
trade up for that freak from georgia 1/31/2006 10:34:40 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "look at the team that white played for
no way he plays that well in a real conference like the big 10 or sec
yes i just took a shot at the Pac 10 " |
Wait, you are saying White is overrated b/c he played in the pac 10, yet you are saying Williams is the best even though he played in the fucking CUSA?
White is simply a better prospect than Maroney. Personally I'd take him before Williams, but they're both very close.1/31/2006 10:55:20 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
if you look what they are saying about williams at the snior bowl, you'd see what im saying. White's strength is his performance during the seasons b/c his 40time etc are so-so
williams ran all over shitty teams but also has had great workouts 2/1/2006 1:42:43 AM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Oh, I'm not saying Williams isn't a very good back. I was just saying the reason you listed (Pac10 sucking, which it does) for not liking White were a little questionable & should apply to the other RB's (in an even worse conf.).
Now, the workouts & senior bowl, reason makes sense & I agree to an exent. There is a lot to like about Williams, but I just think he & White are fairly even, with both being a step above Maroney. 2/1/2006 9:25:53 AM |
NastyNos All American 603 Posts user info edit post |
Kiper's latest:
Following the week of Senior Bowl practices, there have been some changes to my first-round projection for the 2006 NFL draft. There are 14 underclassmen in this week's projected first round, three fewer than last week.
The top six picks remain the same, but the one newcomer to the top 10 is Texas defensive back Michael Huff. Right now I have him projected to land in San Francisco, which has the seventh overall pick. What I like about Huff is his versatility because he can play either cornerback or safety.
This projected pick reminds me of what the 49ers did in 1981 in a similar situation. In the '81 draft, the 49ers had the eighth overall pick and selected another versatile defensive back: USC's Ronnie Lott.
I will submit another first-round projection following the NFL combine, which is Feb. 22-28 in Indianapolis.
First-Round Projections 1. Houston Reggie Bush, RB* USC 2. New Orleans Matt Leinart, QB USC 3. Tennessee Vince Young, QB* Texas 4. N.Y. Jets D'Brickashaw Ferguson, T Virginia 5. Green Bay Mario Williams, DE* NC State 6. Oakland A.J. Hawk, LB Ohio St. 7. San Francisco Michael Huff, DB Texas 8. Buffalo Haloti Ngata, DT* Oregon 9. Detroit Jay Cutler, QB Vanderbilt 10. Arizona DeAngelo Williams, RB Memphis 11. St. Louis Vernon Davis, TE* Maryland 12. Cleveland Chad Greenway, LB Iowa 13. Baltimore Tamba Hali, DE Penn St. 14. Philadelphia Winston Justice, T* USC 15. Atlanta Jimmy Williams, DB Virginia Tech 16. Miami Ashton Youboty, CB* Ohio St. 17. Minnesota LenDale White, RB* USC 18. Dallas Marcus McNeill, T Auburn 19. San Diego Santonio Holmes, WR* Ohio St. 20. Kansas City Tye Hill, CB Clemson 21. New England Laurence Maroney, RB* Minnesota 22. Denver (from WSH) Mathias Kiwanuka, DE Boston College 23. Tampa Bay DeMeco Ryans, LB Alabama 24. Cincinnati Ko Simpson, DB* South Carolina 25. N.Y. Giants Johnathan Joseph, CB* South Carolina 26. Chicago Leonard Pope, TE* Georgia 27. Carolina Dominique Byrd, TE USC 28. Jacksonville Ernie Sims, OLB* Florida St. 29. Denver Sinorice Moss, WR Miami 30. Indianapolis Taitusi "Deuce" Lutui, G USC 31. Pittsburgh Bobby Carpenter, LB Ohio St. 32. Seattle Maurice Stovall, WR Notre Dame 2/3/2006 4:02:38 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
bttt
who will the steelers take w/32?
and since when does indy pick 30th? 2/9/2006 2:08:51 AM |
bighitter All American 1358 Posts user info edit post |
http://msn.foxsports.com/cfb/story/5329722
Here is an interesting mock draft check out the bottom few picks 2/15/2006 10:31:41 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
damn, McCargo in the first round? 2/15/2006 10:43:25 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
yeah... i see manny going before mccargo 2/15/2006 11:05:33 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
what happened to us picking up Fasano from Notre Dame in the first round? 2/15/2006 11:35:27 AM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
Does anyone know the starting date of free agency? 2/16/2006 12:16:11 PM |
Probasesteal All American 10307 Posts user info edit post |
^ 2/16/2006 12:17:33 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
^^All the franchise/roster bonus/release stuff has to be in by March 1. So it will at least unofficially start after that. 2/16/2006 12:20:08 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
^^ 2/16/2006 12:21:52 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
update coming, 3/19 3/18/2006 1:31:48 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
herb sendek to the chargers! 3/18/2006 1:35:40 AM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
lol 3/18/2006 1:37:22 AM |
BEU All American 12512 Posts user info edit post |
Update? 3/21/2006 3:03:57 PM |
Budiss All American 2348 Posts user info edit post |
Update? 3/22/2006 10:07:17 PM |
BoobsR_gr8 All American 30000 Posts user info edit post |
sry ive been busy
i'll update soon 3/23/2006 2:45:19 AM |
KyleAtState All American 1679 Posts user info edit post |
UPDAAAATE! (in homer simpson voice with accompanying fist shake)
Fox sports mock draft has Manny Lawson going to the Cowboys at pick 18..thats the highest prediction Ive seen for him yet. I def wouldnt be dissapointed if my Boys snagged him 3/24/2006 11:27:07 AM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
i see the giants taking him for some reason 3/24/2006 3:18:18 PM |
roberta All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/insider/columns/story?columnist=pasquarelli_len&id=2382383
mccargo in the 1st round?
Quote : | "He isn't the most heralded defensive line prospect at North Carolina State, but tackle John McCargo, often overshadowed by the Wolfpack's heralded end tandem of Mario Williams and Manny Lawson, isn't quite an unknown, either, to NFL scouts.
McCargo's ascent up draft boards continued this week with a strong performance at the school's pro day workouts, and his audition certainly enhanced the chances that North Carolina State will have three defensive linemen selected in the first round next month. Williams, of course, is a sure bet, an edge player and upfield rusher regarded by many scouts as the premier defensive player in the draft. Lawson is also a pass-rush threat, an outside defender with great explosiveness and closing speed who might best project to linebacker in a 3-4 front. " |
[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 4:00 PM. Reason : dyslexia]3/24/2006 3:59:47 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
^thx, i was waiting for an insider to post that 3/24/2006 4:08:50 PM |
roberta All American 1769 Posts user info edit post |
here's the rest:
Quote : | "But the hard-working McCargo, who has fully recovered from a stress fracture in his left foot that sidelined him for five games in 2005, is definitely on the rise. Several scouts now list him as the third-best prospect at tackle, behind only Haloti Ngata of Oregon and Florida State's Brodrick Bunkley. And unlike those two, McCargo is more a one-gap player, capable of compressing the pocket from the inside.
"My game has always been about quickness," McCargo said shortly after a pro day workout in which he clocked a 4.94 in the 40. "I really didn't start playing football until the ninth grade and didn't get serious about it until around my junior year [in high school]. But I was a good baseball player and a pretty good basketball player, and some of the traits from those sports, like hand-eye coordination, things like that, kind of carried over onto the football field and helped me a lot."
Scouts agree that one of McCargo's strong suits is his effective use of his hands, often an oversight by young defenders. Watch him on tape, though, and McCargo's hand speed, and ability to get into a blocker's body, is nearly as impressive as his first step forward. That said, McCargo, an underclass prospect, still is very quick off the ball and keeps his feet moving nicely, even when engaged with an opponent.
At a shade under 6-foot-2 and 305 pounds, McCargo isn't as bulky as some of the other tackle prospects in the 2006 draft class. But several franchises, particularly those seeking a one-gap tackle, have now moved him ahead of players such as Michigan's Gabe Watson, Miami's Orien Harris and Texas' Rodrique Wright. Two general managers asked this week about McCargo had him graded in the lower third of the first round, and acknowledged his stock is rising.
"He's a little different than most of the other [tackles]," one general manager said. "Different in a good sort of way because, if you want the upfield guy and not just the run stuffer, there aren't many tackles like him in this year's draft."
An Academic All-American, and an avid but late-blooming student of the game who is now trying to make up for lost time, McCargo understands that Williams and Lawson, flashier players who merit attention by putting the quarterback on the ground, are going to garner most of the headlines. But he understands, too, that there is a place in the NFL for a guy like himself, a hard-working tackle who has made himself into a player and who will soon reap the rewards.
"It never bothered me that people talked so much about Mario and Manny because, I mean, those guys are incredible players," McCargo said. "Playing out on the edge, making big plays in space, you're naturally going to be drawn to those guys. But I was doing some good things, too, inside, and I think the scouts who have done their homework understand that." " |
3/24/2006 4:25:39 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
thats great...if we got 3 DLmen drafted in the first round...wow...huge recruiting plus 3/24/2006 4:29:01 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
that would be huge. I saw somewhere that the panthers might end up with manny & make him a LB. 3/24/2006 4:31:10 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
i would love for that to happen although if we got Bobby Carpenter or Ernie Sims i wouldnt be mad 3/24/2006 4:32:42 PM |
wlb420 All American 9053 Posts user info edit post |
if we put 3 players in the 1st round that could be the most for any school this year.
MAYBE
[Edited on March 24, 2006 at 4:37 PM. Reason : USC has us beat] 3/24/2006 4:36:19 PM |
TreeTwista10 minisoldr 148442 Posts user info edit post |
^maybe tied? who knows...either way it would be great for the program
maybe they could all come out in their nice three piece suits and clown shoes 3/24/2006 4:40:31 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
haha, philly fan gets owned in this yahoo sports article:
Quote : | "You have successfully proven just how little NFL knowledge you have and exactly why you are completely unqualified to publish a mock draft. Your mock draft still has Philadelphia selecting Santonio Moss, and this is now the third time I am writing you to explain just how far off base you are.
John Watson Philadelphia
And this is the third time I am sitting here wondering who the hell Santonio Moss is." |
3/25/2006 4:52:57 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
if that stadium crumbled to the ground filled to capacity i really wouldnt mind that much 3/25/2006 5:02:47 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
me neither, never seen a more unjustifiably arrogant fanbase 3/25/2006 6:24:34 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
looks like Manny's movin' on up...
http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft06/insider/columns/story?columnist=kiper_jr_mel&id=2405172&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnfl%2fdraft06%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dkiper_jr_mel%26id%3d2405172 4/12/2006 3:48:42 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
how you gonna post a link to an insider article, and not the content? 4/12/2006 5:09:09 PM |
arog20012001 All American 10023 Posts user info edit post |
i was hoping someone else would, i'm not an insider 4/12/2006 5:21:20 PM |
SipnOnSyzurp All American 8923 Posts user info edit post |
yea
post that new mock my Kiper 4/12/2006 5:56:00 PM |
hgtran All American 9855 Posts user info edit post |
it's 4 rounds long. 4/12/2006 6:06:54 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
EVEN BETTER MY MAN
DO IT UP 4/12/2006 6:08:01 PM |