It's not even that though, irrespective of how many parents a person has, a black person is going to face more systemic prejudice and injustice. There will be a double standard working against them, if they make all the right decisions.

Of course an individual can rise above their situation, but it's wrong to support government and social policies that allow double standards for a group that's been oppressed for 200+ years here already.

If a black person could press a button and make their skin white, they would get treated better in almost any situation that matters-- this is a problem.

4/27/2016 11:57:43 PM

Irrespective is a word that Uncle Toms use.

4/28/2016 12:06:15 AM

Lol...33 pages and JCE still needs specifics. What a dipshit!

4/28/2016 7:58:17 AM

hey JCE2011, why do black people have more single parent homes? rap music? black people are just shitty?

or are there any systemic causes that contribute to that statistic?

4/28/2016 9:00:05 AM

^ what do you think "contributes" the most? If you had to put it in order of the highest contributing factor to the least?

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"Of course an individual can rise above their situation"

Are you implying people can make a better life for themselves by choosing to do so? Because that also implies people can choose to make bad decisions.

4/29/2016 11:27:32 AM

can you just pretend like i took the time to reply and go ahead and post about why you're sure that's something they should be able to rise above because you personally have faced some kind of unrelated hardship that you were able to rise above?

aaand go->

[Edited on April 29, 2016 at 11:55 AM. Reason : .]

4/29/2016 11:55:27 AM

Maaaayyyyybe its 150 or so years of taxation and policy (lets replace legalized brutality with the quaint American term 'policy') without any representation of any kind?

Do you think before the internet that this just wasn't happening? Do you think that rural rednecks in 1816, 1916, 1966 were NOT just randomly fucking with black families in the south?

did you know that in the 1950s after WW2 the LAPD specifically recruited members of the KKK?

[Edited on April 29, 2016 at 11:59 AM. Reason : lick my quaint]

4/29/2016 11:55:44 AM

^^ you brought up a few contributing factors, sarcastically I'm sure, but it's still interesting to see where you put the most weight for what you consider to contribute to the higher percentage of single families for african americans

4/29/2016 12:44:59 PM

[Edited on April 29, 2016 at 12:51 PM. Reason : a]

4/29/2016 12:50:42 PM

how big is ur peen

4/29/2016 12:57:02 PM

Quote :

"but it's still interesting to see I don't really GAF where you put the most weight for what you consider to contribute to the higher percentage of single families for african americans"

ftfy

4/29/2016 2:43:51 PM

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"If a black person could press a button and make their skin white have 2 parents, they would get treated better in almost any situation that matters-- this is a problem."

4/29/2016 11:15:32 PM

Because all black people only have 1 parent right?

4/30/2016 12:00:53 AM

^^
That doesn't make any sense. Having 2 parents won't convince the prejudiced boss to hire a black person, if they even know their parent situation. It doesn't cause a loan officer to offer a better deal, or a real estate agent to show a better investment.

4/30/2016 3:03:17 PM

^^^^

can't give a serious answer because it's all bullshit?

[Edited on April 30, 2016 at 5:44 PM. Reason : ^^^^^^^^^^]

4/30/2016 5:44:21 PM

JCE really struggling with the trolling on that post

4/30/2016 6:21:58 PM

^^can't and won't are two different things. you're obviously leading question is obvious. perhaps you'd like to just go ahead and say that the blacks are solely responsible for their single parent situations so we can get this out of the way and move on to the next point.

4/30/2016 10:52:11 PM

Wait, so black people reproduce by mitosis?

I did not know that.

5/1/2016 2:02:56 AM

^^ doesn't sound like something I would say

for the most part, it takes two people to reproduce and regardless of their race, if one or both parents make bad life choices then they are the main contributing factor to their own and their kid's woes. not saying there aren't other contributing factors, but people hold the majority share of responsibility for where they are in the USA

5/1/2016 11:31:46 AM

so then, black people are just shitty?

5/1/2016 1:21:28 PM

Ironic how people show up to a white privilege thread and blast their white privilege all over the place. At least we don't have to go looking for examples of how a person with white privilege sees the world.

5/1/2016 3:03:56 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonk/housing/atlanta/

5/1/2016 8:38:03 PM

http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-black-americans-commit-crime/19439

I found this to be an interesting perspective

[Edited on May 1, 2016 at 9:38 PM. Reason : k]

5/1/2016 9:32:14 PM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonk/housing/atlanta/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_housing-atlanta%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Interesting article on the unequal housing recovery

5/2/2016 6:59:02 AM

oh word?

5/2/2016 10:45:37 AM

Who is the whitest person on tww?

5/2/2016 10:53:39 AM

BigBusiness

5/2/2016 11:13:53 AM

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"https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/business/wonk/housing/atlanta/?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_housing-atlanta%3Ahomepage%2Fstory Interesting article on the unequal housing recovery"

I noticed this issue when looking for a house in the Baltimore area. We found several nice homes near our office that we were interested in, but there was a noticeable trend with neighborhoods that had a higher percentage of black residents being littered with foreclosures and short sales. Regardless of how much house you could get for the money, we couldn't bring ourselves to buy into a market area that's still that far upside down.

I'd like to know what percentage of the foreclosed houses that popped up on our Zillow searches were due to subprime mortgages. I remember watching the news a few years ago about how prevalent they were in Maryland; PG county accounted for something like a quarter of all mortgages being subprime around the time of the 2008 collapse. Considering that PG county is one of the wealthiest and best educated predominantly black areas of the country, hearing about the number of subprime mortgages being written in that area was hard to grasp.

5/2/2016 1:28:30 PM

Southeast Raleigh is the same way

5/2/2016 3:20:44 PM

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"Lol...33 pages and JCE still needs specifics. What a dipshit!"

Right, because "dipshits" want specifics included in a discussion. The vague theme of "racism is bad and white people are racist" is such a profound intellectual argument, I am humbled to be in your presence sir.

33 pages and the SJW's still haven't been able to provide meaningful specifics that are even remotely as important as personal responsibility when it comes to determining one's success in 2016.

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"so then, black people are just shitty?"

No, single parent homes are shitty regardless of race.

5/2/2016 8:35:15 PM

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"eleusis: We found several nice homes near our office that we were interested in, but there was a noticeable trend with neighborhoods that had a higher percentage of black residents being littered with foreclosures and short sales. Regardless of how much house you could get for the money, we couldn't bring ourselves to buy into a market area that's still that far upside down. "

If you're not having children, you should buy.

The article sounded awful for folks, especially the woman who was significantly underwater in her home like right after she bought it. But it also sounded great for anyone who wants a big house for cheap.

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"eleusis: Considering that PG county is one of the wealthiest and best educated predominantly black areas of the country, hearing about the number of subprime mortgages being written in that area was hard to grasp."

The article doesn't really explain why higher income African Americans were taking the subprime mortgages. It just says they were more likely to be targeted with them. It was disappointing they didn't explore it further.

^^Southeast Raleigh is kinda different than what they're talking about in the Baltimore and Atlanta areas.

5/2/2016 8:51:24 PM

How is southeast Raleigh different?

5/2/2016 9:32:49 PM

Lol, JCE still pretending like he didn't see my question

5/2/2016 9:54:50 PM

http://prospect.org/article/staggering-loss-black-wealth-due-subprime-scandal-continues-unabated

Here's an article about PG county specifically. I can understand the outrage over financial institutions specifically targeting minorities for shitty loans, but what I don't understand is how so many affluent black Americans didn't realize that the rates they were getting were a bad deal?

5/2/2016 9:59:00 PM

^^^African-Americans in Wake County make up a much smaller proportion of the area than in the others, and they are less likely to be affluent than Arrican-Americans in DeKalb and PG counties.

The demographics of Raleigh are nothing like Atlanta or Baltimore.

[Edited on May 2, 2016 at 10:11 PM. Reason : sss]

5/2/2016 10:08:43 PM

As a city, yes, but that is why I specifically said southeast Raleigh. Dwindling home values, sub prime mortgages, and prevalent foreclosures...all while North Raleigh and downtown home values go up in the "white part of town" are extremely similar. I see what you're saying, just saying they face the same problems tho.

[Edited on May 2, 2016 at 10:47 PM. Reason : ]

5/2/2016 10:46:28 PM

also police report all the crime in the black neighborhoods actively driving prices down. its all connected.

[Edited on May 2, 2016 at 10:48 PM. Reason : look at the map and you'd think all of the crime occurs in south and east raleigh]

5/2/2016 10:47:34 PM

Quote :

"33 pages and the SJW's still haven't been able to provide meaningful specifics that are even remotely as important as personal responsibility when it comes to determining one's success in 2016."

I'd be surprised if anyone simply typed "personal responsibility"

and I wouldn't know if you just copied and pasted it.....

5/2/2016 10:48:36 PM

white privilege is all about having personal responsibility. thats the whole point of the thread. The luxury of the outcome of your life being based on personal responsibility.

5/2/2016 11:37:30 PM

That isn't the point of this thread. The point of this thread is for SJWs to point to any disparity of outcome based on race and claim it is proof of racism.

I only care about disparity of opportunity.

If you want to claim there is a disparity of opportunity with specific examples... that can lead to a meaningful discussion, but we all know how much SJWs hate specifics/statistics/reality.

5/3/2016 12:20:52 AM

The point of this thread is for the blacks to get uppity and whine for their reparations again because their single parent households and thuggin non-present daddies didn't teach them personal responsibility. Niggers, amirite JCE? They have the same opportunities as everyone else to succeed in life, yet they all fail.

5/3/2016 12:50:06 AM

Funny how requesting specific evidence to substantiate broad, vague claims of victimhood results in the "you're a racist" comeback. SJWs are such a fragile breed... must be hard inventing so much victimhood... I can see why reason and logic would upset you.

5/3/2016 3:56:54 PM

Haven't seen any logic presented in this thread so can't really judge your statement.

Just a lot of Reddit-type cliches.

5/3/2016 4:24:21 PM

there's been plenty of logic

just none from him

5/3/2016 4:39:00 PM

^^^the problem is when you're presented with specifics you refute them with "personal responsibility" as if that's a specific in itself. your arguments are nothing more than superfluous talking-points that really contribute nothing to the conversation as you've already determined that white privilege doesn't exist and the blacks are just making this all up to get out of "personal responsibility" and continue their pursuit of having single-parent households to self-perpetuate failure. dude...segregation caused some fucked up shit and you're trying to pretend like there were no residual effects. keep living in fantasy-land where everyone started with these "equal opportunities" as you like to believe they had.

#ALM

[Edited on May 3, 2016 at 4:41 PM. Reason : whoops...feeding the trolls again]

5/3/2016 4:41:27 PM

Sorry JCE, it's pretty obvious at this point that you are pretty racist. Not just because of the content of your comments, but just the fact that you're so passionate about white privilege not existing that you keep logging on to TWW to repeat your tired arguments over and over and over again. Many of your arguments have been refuted, you've been provided numerous specific small-scale and large-scale examples, but you keep coming back with the same arguments and continually requesting specifics.

5/3/2016 5:19:17 PM

^ If there were so many "specifics" you would figure a couple could be referenced. Also you are pretty racist man.

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"pursuit of having single-parent households to self-perpetuate failure. dude...segregation caused some fucked up shit and you're trying to pretend like there were no residual effects. "

Then why did the black single parent rate skyrocket after segregation ended?

5/3/2016 6:43:26 PM

Bruh...Do your own homework.

#PersonalResponsibility

[Edited on May 3, 2016 at 6:46 PM. Reason : ]

5/3/2016 6:45:29 PM

I really would love to find some actual specifics for your weak sob-story of victimhood, but the trouble with supporting a false narrative is you can't, at least not with evidence.

As we have seen time and time again in this thread, the best defense for "white privilege" is

1. Calling anyone questioning it a racist.
2. Point to disparity of outcome, and ignore all factors but race (and claim racism is the cause).

Personal tip: If anyone references "personal responsibility" or "factors besides race" you are pretty much boned, just refer to #1 and act like you are good at arguing.

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" but just the fact that you're so passionate about white privilege not existing "

Not just white privilege, any narrative of victimhood the left tries to fabricate or exaggerate. Islamaphobia, gender wage gap, rape culture... I think exaggerating and misrepresenting reality to try and convince people that they are victims for virtue-signaling and political points makes you a shitty person (aka all SJWs). I think it is very entertaining when people that are used to being in an echo-chamber hear common sense shitting on what they are so emotionally invested in...

[Edited on May 4, 2016 at 8:49 PM. Reason : .]

5/4/2016 8:34:33 PM

After segregation ended, integration didn't happen, and that was when a lot of the worst stuff started. It is most easily spotted in the criminal justice system.

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"Although approximately two thirds of crack cocaine users are white or Hispanic, a large percentage of people convicted of possession of crack cocaine in federal courts in 1994 were black. In 1994 84.5% of the defendants convicted of crack cocaine possession were black while 10.3% were white and 5.2% were Hispanic. Possession for powder cocaine was more racially mixed with 58% of the offenders being white, 26.7% black, and 15% Hispanic. Within the federal judicial system a person convicted of possession with intent to distribute powder cocaine carries a five-year sentence for quantities of 500 grams or more while a person convicted of possession with intent to distribute crack cocaine faces a five-year sentence for quantities of five grams or more. With the combination of severe and unbalanced drug possession laws along with the rates of conviction in terms of race, the judicial system has created a huge racial disparity"

1. For the most part, because of segregation, black people are born into poverty at a disproportionate rate. This leads to poor education in the most important early years. Without good daycare, you are already behind in development.

2. Living in a poor area means you are dealing with environmental health risks such as lead in water and poor nutrition. These hinder development going forward

3. poor areas have poor schools because of the way our public school system feeds off of segregation.

4. 1-3 hinder your ability to obtain a quality education which is what allows people to make informed or as you may call, "good" choices.

5. Young adults with poor quality education make poor choices which leads to continued poverty and more children that grow up starting at 1.

6. if you overcome all odds and educate yourself, you are subject to higher probability of unfair treatment in hiring, housing, and society in general, pushing you more towards 5

7. If you break the law like most people, you are more likely to be caught because policing is more aggressive in these areas and you are also subject to longer sentences for the same crime. instead of being based on rehabilitation, the prison system is mostly built with the purpose of destroying black men.

5/4/2016 9:00:47 PM