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sarijoul
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contractions, learn to use them.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 10:49 AM. Reason : page 2]

1/17/2007 10:49:26 AM

Golovko
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your mom had a contraction.




ooooooooOOOOOOooO!

1/17/2007 10:55:23 AM

sarijoul
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but yeah. when one generalizes an entire country of people as being animals, it stinks pretty strongly of bigotry to me.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 11:08 AM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 11:07:51 AM

Golovko
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i know that culture a lot better than you.

1/17/2007 11:18:16 AM

sarijoul
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i'm sure a plantation owner knew slaves better than me too. doesn't mean he wasn't a bigot.

1/17/2007 11:20:39 AM

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saddam was kind of like a plantation owner now that you mention it

good thing the US invaded and took him out of power to "free the slaves"

1/17/2007 11:25:37 AM

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considering this has nothing to do with my religious or political or otherwise any beleives...its just a fact. So this really doesn't make me a bigot. Am i mistaken to call a people who are known to over throw their leaders and always resort to viloence and otherwise animal like behavior...and are now in total anarchy and caos animals?

1/17/2007 12:07:39 PM

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no, but sarijoul would be happy to call US soldiers madmen or something much worse...just dont insult the Iraqis!!

1/17/2007 12:09:08 PM

sarijoul
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when have i ever said that?

i'm against generalizing an entire population of people.

i'll say this, the one iraqi i know well is one of the highest-paid and most respected profs at ncsu. so is he an animal?

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:21 PM. Reason : * and his son is a well-respected member of aerospace industry at sandia national labs]

1/17/2007 12:17:02 PM

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^^^ Dude, get the fuck out of TSB, go back to spending your parents money working on your car, going to track days, and being just as big a douche in real life as you are on here.

You're closed minded to the point that you won't even entertain the thought that you actually are - in your world, you just can't be.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:22 PM. Reason : a]

1/17/2007 12:19:56 PM

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Quote :
"i'm against generalizing an entire population of people."


unless that population of people is "republicans" or "rednecks" or "Americans"

1/17/2007 12:26:51 PM

Golovko
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^^hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

breathe

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

nice post, typeAsswipe


HAHAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

what are you? 12? Do you sit outside my house wondering what it is I am up to? LOL

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:28 PM. Reason : people can't take the truth.]

1/17/2007 12:27:02 PM

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You should edit that to a blank, and come back later when you come up with something better than that. Your effort, much like your mentality, is grade school at best.

1/17/2007 12:29:32 PM

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"i'll say this, the one iraqi i know well is one of the highest-paid and most respected profs at ncsu. so is he an animal?"


because you know one good Iraqi it suddenly makes up for all their history of violence. Don't take my word for it....GOOGLE it!


^how's this for a 'come back'

^ Dude, get the fuck out of TSB, go back to spending your parents money, trolling on TWW, going to track days (sorry couldn't think of anything you go to since you sit on TWW all day), and being just as big a douche in real life as you are on here.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:31 PM. Reason : fda]

1/17/2007 12:30:14 PM

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Golovko you should be more open minded...be open minded like Type A...its not like he's already made up his mind about you...he is open minded

1/17/2007 12:30:17 PM

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^^^again, show me where i do this. (and i don't really think that republicans part is fair since in that case people decide to align themselves with a certain group of people and their ideas, so i think some generalizations there are fair and warranted)

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:30 PM. Reason : ^^^]

1/17/2007 12:30:24 PM

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"Golovko you should be more open minded...be open minded like Type A...its not like he's already made up his mind about you...he is open minded"


hahaha...good point

1/17/2007 12:31:47 PM

sarijoul
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calling people animals is generally how people justify genocides. just sayin'. that's how it usually starts.

1/17/2007 12:32:53 PM

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Quote :
"i'm against generalizing an entire population of people"


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"i think some generalizations there are fair and warranted"


WHICH IS IT SARIJOUL

1/17/2007 12:33:43 PM

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^^Put yourself in Saddam's shoes. Would you just die because you don't want to keep your people in check? Because thats what happens to their leaders. again...google plz so we can stop with this back and forth shit.

the majority opinion in the Arab world about Iraqi's is very negative. its not just my opinion.

Just be glad you live in america and don't worry about fixing everyone elses problems. These people have been around for the ages. I'm sure they can make it just fine on their own.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:36 PM. Reason : fda]

1/17/2007 12:35:01 PM

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^^both if you look at it in the context that i gave.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:35:03 PM

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What am I being closed minded about? I think it's pretty cut and dried that I am calling a spade a spade, however, calling an entire group of people animals, is certainly elevently levels more extreme than that.

Apparently, neither of you are intelligent enough to comprehend this and/or are just trolling in general.

1/17/2007 12:35:30 PM

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^^you're against generalizing and for generalizing

well that makes about as much sense as most of the other nonsense you spout

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:36 PM. Reason : lol "in the context you gave"...more like "selectively depending on which group you dont like"]

^well for one thing it seems you are assuming things about Golovko...aka not having an open mind about what he may think

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:37 PM. Reason : /]

1/17/2007 12:35:33 PM

Golovko
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lol...this is too funny. Why don't we use the current state of Iraq now and the state of Iraq BEFORE Saddam's time to back up my opinion. But hey guys, i'm sure its just one iraqi causing all this rucus.

1/17/2007 12:37:31 PM

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^^no not at all. republicans chose to bind themselves over some sort of agreement in beliefs. i think it would be fair to generalize those beliefs in some contexts. saying all republicans are dumb would be unfair. saying republicans generally believe in a strong defense i think is fair. calling an entire country animals is not fair.

and you've assumed all sorts of stuff about me that isn't true.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:38 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:37:45 PM

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"he majority opinion in the Arab world about Iraqi's is very negative."


Do you have one shred of evidence to back this up? This is what we attempt to do here, not expunge patterns of thought passed down by your parentsuncles.

1/17/2007 12:37:47 PM

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"^well for one thing it seems you are assuming things about Golovko...aka not having an open mind about what he may think"


I think it's pretty safe to assume any one person calling an entire group of millions of people "animals" is a big douche sandwich.

This isn't about me being close minded you worthless troll.

1/17/2007 12:39:29 PM

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Considering I just came back from the region and that is the general opinion on the news. Also, even well before the war or before Bush even knew where Iraq was on the map....this was still the same opinion.

and i'm starting to wonder why you always bring in my 'parents' and other 'family' members into your posts....did you grow up without a family or something and are jealous? :shrug:

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"I think it's pretty safe to assume any one person calling an entire group of millions of people "animals" is a big douche sandwich.

This isn't about me being close minded you worthless troll."


well lets send you over there, typeArse and see what your opinion changes to. but then again you probably never even been outside the US let alone even knew where iraq was before cnn and your prez told you.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:41 PM. Reason : fda]

1/17/2007 12:39:45 PM

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"Considering I just came back from the region and that is the general opinion on the news. "


sources please?

1/17/2007 12:41:27 PM

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"I think it's pretty safe to assume any one person calling an entire group of millions of people "animals" is a big douche sandwich."


Do you have one shred of evidence to back this up? This is what we attempt to do here, not expunge patterns of thought passed down by your parentsuncles.

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"republicans chose to bind themselves over some sort of agreement in beliefs"


sources please?

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:42 PM. Reason : ./]

1/17/2007 12:41:39 PM

sarijoul
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you are really trolling up a storm here. are you trying to claim that members of a political party don't generally hold some of the same beliefs?

1/17/2007 12:43:54 PM

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"you are really trolling up a storm here. are you trying to claim that members of a political party don't generally hold some of the same beliefs?"


same applies to religion and to iraqi's.

1/17/2007 12:44:49 PM

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They are all yours sarijoul. I feel like I am posting with dumb and dumber when these guys are in a thread.

1/17/2007 12:44:52 PM

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^^not really for iraqis. and even if they all chose to be there, it still wouldn't justify calling them animals.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:45:41 PM

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sources please?

and you aren't openminded at all.

^LOL so you are saying it doesn't apply to iraqi's but applies to americans? should i call americans animals too so you can change your view?

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:46 PM. Reason : dfa]

1/17/2007 12:45:43 PM

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no i'm saying one can make some reasonable generalizations about people who choose to align themselves together. many iraqis didn't choose to be in the current bind they're in. and even if they did, it wouldn't justify them being lumped as all being "animals" as you have done.

here's an example:

members of al qaeda believe in using violence to further their cause and spread terror. i think this generalization is fair. and it is about people who choose to align themselves with this group.

i would not say that all muslims or arabs or whatever believe in using violence to further their cause and spread terror, because it is not true.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:47:35 PM

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you're damned if you do, you are damned if you don't. So i guess by your last post it is safe to say that Iraqi's didn't chose to have saddam over thrown by bush and would much rather go back to the way it was pre-war?

1/17/2007 12:49:12 PM

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what youre doing is being a hypocrite...you go from "i'm against generalizing an entire population of people" to "i think some generalizations there are fair and warranted"


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"one can make some reasonable generalizations about people who choose to align themselves together"


maybe if you werent so caught up in wording and political correctness you would realize that the iraqi people who choose to align themselves together and kill thousands and thousands of people can be reasonably generalized as animals

but rather than even ADDRESS that there are murderous animals out there, you would rather nitpick the wording because then you can ignore the animal sector of the iraqi population

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:50:48 PM

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"So i guess by your last post it is safe to say that Iraqi's didn't chose to have saddam over thrown by bush and would much rather go back to the way it was pre-war?"


i never said or implied that. but to answer your question: yes, i'm sure some would. i'm sure some others would not. this is why broadstroke generalizations aren't very helpful in this discussion


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"maybe if you werent so caught up in wording and political correctness you would realize that the iraqi people who choose to align themselves together and kill thousands and thousands of people can be reasonably generalized as animals

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i could buy that. but this does not equate with calling the entire country animals

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:51 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:50:53 PM

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and because one side got their bidding and the other didn't, they tear each other apart like animals.

1/17/2007 12:51:56 PM

sarijoul
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i don't think anyone's gotten their bidding yet. and ^that statement is entirely different from the one you originally posted.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:52 PM. Reason : .]

1/17/2007 12:52:36 PM

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Dude, sarijoul, maybe you are bored, but consider who you are replying to here man. Golovko really does seem to be mentally defunct. Twista is either in the same boat, or just trolling you.

It's not worth it man, even if you are bored.

1/17/2007 12:54:26 PM

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^^i am just pointing out what makes them animals. You could have thought i called them animals because they eat off the floor and hunt each other down for food.

OR

because of their caveman like behavior where no law governs them and they roam freely killing anyone that opposes their opinion.

^lol...kids these days.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:55 PM. Reason : fda]

1/17/2007 12:54:56 PM

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the second statement implies the people doing the killing are the animals. the first just called the entire country animals. the second is far closer to the truth (though still painfully simplistic)

1/17/2007 12:56:16 PM

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^^^why dont you go take an anger management class, State409c

1/17/2007 12:57:01 PM

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well considering the majority are behaving like animals...i think its safe to say Saddam was the only one able to keep them 'tame'

1/17/2007 12:57:18 PM

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the majority? really? where are you getting this from?

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 12:58 PM. Reason : and you seem to forget that people lived in what's now iraq before wwI]

1/17/2007 12:58:01 PM

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you actually bring up an interesting point Golovko...im sure we could all agree that there are some good and bad apples in every group of people, especially a large group like a country's population

i would say iraq has a lot more bad apples than some other groups, basing this opinion off the tens of thousands they have killed in the last few years

but if you think iraq was better with saddam in power, was it because he could "tame the animals"...that would mean they are animals

yet if iraq is better now, like i've been saying all along, then i guess iraqis are not all animals

1/17/2007 12:59:33 PM

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^^are you serious? I forgot...the caos is only happening in a tiny small burrow in a insignificant part of Iraq. the rest of Iraq is like a mini-america already!

^^people have lived their pre-america and pre-colonization of the new world

^are you saying iraq is better now than before?

this type of behavior dates back to before saddam...as i've said before.

[Edited on January 17, 2007 at 1:01 PM. Reason : fda]

1/17/2007 12:59:57 PM

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it doesn't take a majority of a population to make a mess of a country

1/17/2007 1:00:37 PM

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