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"But way to go after the style of yet another news report post about ACORN's voter registration fraud and totally skip the substance. GG. "

10/13/2008 3:25:21 AM

Did you guys know that hooksaw has been accused by two posters of paederasty?

10/13/2008 10:51:26 AM

From what I've read, it sounds like ACORN employees are scamming ACORN and ACORN is scamming the DNC & Obama campaign more so than they are committing voter fraud. The system should be catching stuff like multiple registrations, dead voters, and fictitious voters. The real test is to see who shows up to vote.

10/13/2008 11:09:40 AM

^^Actually, I heard that just the other day at my church and then from a friend at the grocery store. It's such a shame.

Did you also know that hooksaw is a McCain fan? I mean, I knew McCain was bad, but I had no idea that he would support paederasty. Of course, it doesn't show up in his platform or anything, but it's pretty obvious McCain is pro-paederasty. It's just horrible!

^Did you hear about hooksaw?

[Edited on October 13, 2008 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ?]

10/13/2008 11:12:33 AM

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"^^Actually, I heard that just the other day at my church and then from a friend at the grocery store. It's such a shame."

He's been acused, so it must be true.

10/13/2008 11:40:47 AM

hooksaw only did it to fill quota.

10/13/2008 11:42:04 AM

http://www.acorn.org/index.php?id=12439&tx_ttnews[tt_news]=22386&tx_ttnews[backPid]=12387&cHash=5706e23a2f

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" U.S. Senator John McCain's recent attacks on the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) are puzzling given his historic support for the organization and its efforts on behalf of immigrant Americans. As recently as February 20, 2006, Senator McCain was the keynote speaker at an ACORN-sponsored Immigration Rally in Miami, Florida at Miami Dade College – Wolfson Campus."

10/14/2008 2:44:13 AM

DAYAM!

10/14/2008 4:10:30 AM

ACORWND

10/14/2008 11:46:23 AM

Weird.

So McCain voted for ACORN before he voted against it?

10/14/2008 11:58:23 AM

Here you go bridget, now they are actually voting

Investigators probing ACORN have learned that an Ohio man registered to vote several times and cast a bogus ballot with a fake address, officials said yesterday, as they revealed that nearly 4,000 registration applications supplied by the left-leaning activist group were suspect.


http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm

10/14/2008 12:08:49 PM

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" He also denied suggestions that the group pays canvassers by the number of names they sign up, and that they have quotas."

If they don't have quotas, things work rather differently there than here in New Mexico.

10/14/2008 12:17:23 PM

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/a_lifetime_ago_sen_john.php

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"Here he is, on Feb. 20, 2006, telling immigration rights activists at a rally in Miami that they "are what makes America special." ACORN co-sponsored the rally, and its volunteers surround McCain, and while there's no evidence that McCain ever formally teamed with the group, the video serves as a reminder that he did not mind being associated with them when the politics of the moment were different."

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"A few weeks ago, House Republicans screamed bloody murder when it appeared as if ACORN would benefit from the bailout bill, although McCain, President Bush and House Republicans have supported legislation with similar provisions before and they spent billions on the Road Home project, which contracts with ACORN to help provide housing for Katrina refugees. (You can't say...ah, but ACORN wasn't suspected of doing anything bad earlier... you can't say that because ACORN has been doing what ACORN is accused of doing for several cycles now.)"

Me, page 1 of this thread:

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"Do you guys REALLY want to play the 'guilt by association and/or financing' game with a man who's only been in government a few years versus a man who's been in government for decades? The skeletons falling out of McCain's closet started collecting dust when Obama was in Kindergarten. Don't start shit you can't finish."

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ,]

10/14/2008 1:23:43 PM

Josh Marhsall from TPM had it dead on today why this whole issue is just smoke and mirrors. Give me a break:

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" Let's be clear about what this is. These are random stories about fake vote registrations. The Drudges and Fox scoundrels of the world seem to think that if someone fills out a voter registration card for Mickey Mouse, that Mickey Mouse might show up and cast a vote they're not entitled to cast. It doesn't and there is zero evidence of any voter fraud or anything that would make voter fraud more likely. The level of lying, bad faith or at best ignorance of the people making these claims is really beyond imagining. This isn't vote fraud. There's no evidence of vote fraud. Nothing. This is an effort of a losing political party to a) lay the groundwork for challenging their defeat at the polls b) lay the groundwork to pass laws to make it harder for poor people and minorities to vote. "

10/14/2008 4:03:07 PM

yeah its voter registration fraud. Its not like they don't check these things. The shit gets caught before any voting even happens.

10/14/2008 4:30:03 PM

actually john marshall is being a bit misleading himself.

WHile mickey mouse might not show up to vote, good ole mickey will get an absentee ballot mailed to him if requested.

But if the fraud helps obama, it cant be bad right.. right.

Seriously, how do you all defend this bs

10/14/2008 4:51:11 PM

sure, if mickey can prove he's a registered voter.

10/14/2008 4:53:29 PM

in this case he is... probalby 77 times too

10/14/2008 5:00:40 PM

See, nobody's defending the actions of the people who actually submitted fraudulent registrations. That's a crime (a misdemeanor) and should be punished if they're found guilty.

However, it was clearly not the policy of ACORN itself to do that.

Now, the point being made is that while there were fraudulent registrations submitted, there haven't been any fraudulent VOTES of note, nor will there be, since the fraudulent registrations are caught.

Make sense? Good. Now can we drop this, and if not, can we blame both candidates for supporting them? In general, though, they're not a bad organization.

http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/10/a_lifetime_ago_sen_john.php

10/14/2008 5:11:11 PM

dirtygreek

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"However, it was clearly not the policy of ACORN itself to do that. "

But is it the policy to pay people to register to vote? Bc that is what they are doing, and why people are making stuff up.

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"Now, the point being made is that while there were fraudulent registrations submitted, there haven't been any fraudulent VOTES of note, nor will there be, since the fraudulent registrations are caught."

Actually scroll up, there was a fraud vote I posted a link on it. And its VERY naive to assume that they can catch them all. I guess we can assume that our border patrol catches all illegals too. Get serious hoss

10/14/2008 5:24:17 PM

Has anyone established how there were any real wrongdoings, yet?

Because right now, we've only proven that there were some pranksters on the bottom end.

10/14/2008 5:34:02 PM

kinda like gitmo

10/14/2008 5:43:05 PM

I think you would first have to establish your head out of your ass, then read any of the articles posted on here to find the wrong doing.

But ill repost this for you Boone, Im sure youve had a long day friend

http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/news/politics/bogus_voter_booted_amid_probe_of_acorn_133540.htm

10/14/2008 5:51:48 PM

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"some pranksters on the bottom end."

Is that how you see the ones who are attempting to corrupt our voting system..pranksters?

I know you are an ardent Obama supporter..but come on..aren't you still an American?

If Obama wins fair and square..that's the way it goes. But this ACORN stuff is wrong.

10/14/2008 5:59:51 PM

^^^^

The wrongdoing was by people who falsified voter registration forms so they didn't have to move their asses and still could look like they were working.

^ That's like calling a migrant farm worker sleeping on the job but still collecting wages corruption of our food supply.

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 6:02 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2008 6:00:15 PM

^Yeah, that was my impression. ]

Well, clearly this goes straight to the top

10/14/2008 6:05:02 PM

Yeah, but it's still a crime so calling it a prank isn't quite true either. The people who did it should be charged, even if it ends up being misdemeanors. It would probably at least get some of their paroles violated.

10/14/2008 6:07:49 PM

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"And its VERY naive to assume that they can catch them all. I guess we can assume that our border patrol catches all illegals too."

I guess when I'm not here for a while, I forget I have to be 100% specific when I make a point. There is one, so far, and that person was caught. Also, they had already caught him registering illegally and told him to stop, but he then came in to vote - and, they caught his vote and threw it out.

In other words, absolutely no votes so far have been cast by fake voters registered by ACORN. One that we know of tried and failed.

As for paying people to register voters, TONS of organizations work that way. It's not illegal. It does, however, obviously encourage some retards to try and break the law. You can hardly blame Obama or anyone in government for this, though.

And, again, McCain was a supporter of ACORN too. So get over it.

10/14/2008 6:15:46 PM

Did McCain give ACORN 800k?

Its amazing how lax an attitude you all take towards voter fraud when it helps YOUR guy.

However, we shouldnt be make to register or even show an ID to vote right. So say some Dems

10/14/2008 6:29:06 PM

How's it helping our candidate?

The fraudulent registrations were found. The system worked.

10/14/2008 6:31:18 PM

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"How's it helping our candidate? "

Dude, try harder, its still stuck.

10/14/2008 6:33:00 PM

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"voter fraud when it helps YOUR guy. "

How has blatant and widely publicized lazy-ass fraud by the ACORN workers helped Obama? If anyone has been helped by all this it's been McCain. So sure, it would make more sense to suspect McCain supporters to have provided blatantly falsified forms. Still, that would only be SLIGHTLY less asinine than thinking the Obama campaign orchestrated this.

10/14/2008 6:33:05 PM

Are you people retarded? ACORN exists to get low income people to vote that don't have a clue about politics. They are mostly inner city black communities that lean very ver very heavily Obama. That is how it will help Obama. If you don't see that you are blind to the world. If they would have gotten away with it it would have undoubtedly helped Obama. It will help McCain a little since they got caught and it shows how unethical the far left is.

10/14/2008 6:40:19 PM

^That's how REAL registrations would help Obama. Yes. We are not disputing that real legal registrations would be a good thing for Obama.

Perhaps you are blind to how voting works... a registration and a vote are not the same thing. You seem to be thinking that fake registrations are a good thing for Obama. Were this an intelligent and subtle campaign to falsely register real people, then it could POTENTIALLY benefit Obama. It is clear to anyone who has read these articles that there was nothing subtle or intelligent going on here. There is absolutely no indication that these lazily bs'd registrations would have materialized as votes. The desire to jump to conspiracy theories is understandable, especially considering that's how the mind works in times of stress and when things seem out of one's control. (recent psych study showed this fairly solidy, it was pretty cool.)

[Edited on October 14, 2008 at 6:51 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2008 6:49:03 PM

ACORN doesn't pay enough to get the people who are capable of pulling off massive fraud.

I got offered a job as regional director for about $10,000 less a year than I make now. Sure the title sounds great, but the job sucks.

10/14/2008 6:54:30 PM

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"eyedrb: Here you go bridget, now they are actually voting"

By "they," you mean one guy, Darnell Nash.

And, according to your source, Mr. Nash registered himself repeatedly. He got a call from the Board, and they told him to stop. Still, he went in and registered himself again at another address...and proceeded to vote one time.

1. This guy used a fake address, but it looks like he only voted once. Perhaps he intended to keep on voting, but regardless, he was stopped.
2. There's still no apparent connection between his vote and ACORN, which is what this thread is about.

Perhaps you should start another thread, "Darnell Nash of Ohio Votes One Time with Fake Address!!!!"

10/14/2008 8:29:42 PM

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"Did McCain give ACORN 800k?"

Wait, so you have to give money to someone to share their guilt? McCain was a keynote speaker at an ACORN meeting where he proclaimed his support for them.

You know, McCain is lucky the Obama camp is playing the nice guy in this campaign.

10/14/2008 10:04:56 PM

^ ahaha. Obama playing nice guy? riiiiiiiiight. Only cause Obama has the media doing all his dirty work for him.

10/14/2008 10:12:49 PM

You do realize if someone says that they registered 1.5 million people to vote it can rally more and more people, who can actually vote, and make them think that they should register too.

10/14/2008 10:15:55 PM

^Yes. From page two...

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"BridgetSPK: I mean, were they trying to get people excited about the election by making it look like tons of new voters had registered?"

10/14/2008 10:25:10 PM

hooksaw is a pederast?

10/15/2008 1:42:56 AM

holy shit, that makes 3 posters.

10/15/2008 1:55:59 AM

1. nutsuckr von nusssauger - admitted liar

message_topic.aspx?topic=527285&page=1

2. Unlike your libelous allegations concerning me, (1) there is actual evidence against ACORN--and it's widespread. And (2) in my case, your stupid allegations are completely false. I'm asking Duke--once again--to put a stop to this.

3. "Voter suppression!" some of you fucking moonbats howl. Well, if so, it's the Democrats doing so in a number of states:

ACORN Nevada Office Raided

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"Instead, their office was raided Tuesday morning by agents of the Nevada Secretary of State [Ross Miller - D] and Attorney General [Catherine Cortez Masto - D] who alleged in an application for a search warrant that ACORN had hired 59 felons through a work release program as canvassers and submitted nearly 300 apparently fraudulent voter registration cards as part of the drive."

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2008/10/07/acorn_nevada_offices_raided.html

MO Secretary of State comments on voter registration fraud

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"HANNIBAL, MO -- Much like eight years ago, allegations of voter registration fraud have already begun to surface. Kansas City election officials report receiving hundreds of questionable or fraudulent voter cards most sent in by ACORN. That's a group that works to encourage people to register to vote. We asked Missouri Secretary of State, Robin Carnahan [D] about this issue. Here's what she had to say. 'I'm glad that these election officials in Kansas City found those suspects and kept them off the voter rolls. That's the appropriate thing to do,' said Secretary Carnahan. The Secretary of State's office says they are working with Kansas City election officials to clean up voter rolls."

http://www.khqa.com/news/news_story.aspx?id=205280

N.C. election officials [3/5 Democrats] investigate voter forms

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"The investigation determined 104 Durham County forms and 30 Wake County forms were fake, along with one from Mecklenburg County."

http://www.wral.com/news/state/story/3733722/

4. I have heard accusations from a number of users here, nutsuckr, that even though they weren't sure if you would actually suck a cock, they were certain that you would hold one in your mouth until the swelling went down.

10/15/2008 4:07:54 AM

How are you still allowed to post, hooksaw? I don't understand how any moderator could possibly tolerate the random and irrelevant insults that you throw out with every single post... it is rare that I see you make a point without adding "you fucking far-left moonbat hippies" or something similar to it, or alternatively your insulting distortions of the usernames of others.

Honestly, I really am curious. How is it that Duke still lets you post when your trolling is so blatantly obvious and disgustingly against the spirit of intelligent debate?

10/15/2008 9:27:53 AM

theduke suspended me for like a week for calling hooksaw a "fucking idiot"

it's obvious what's going on there

10/15/2008 9:51:05 AM

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" Unlike your libelous allegations concerning me, (1) there is actual evidence against ACORN--and it's widespread. And (2) in my case, your stupid allegations are completely false."

You certainly have paederastic tendencies. How am I supposed to know the allegations are false?

10/15/2008 10:00:24 AM

Not to mention that the GOP was accused of voter registration fraud in 2004:

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" Federal and state authorities are looking into Democratic Party allegations that a voter registration group hired by the Republican Party tossed out registration forms signed by Democrats. The FBI and state officials are reviewing comments by Eric Russell, a former employee of Voter Outreach of America, who claims to have witnessed supervisors throwing away Democrats' voter registration forms. Destruction of the forms is a federal crime, according to Clark County attorneys. "

http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2004/Oct-14-Thu-2004/news/24993304.html

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"Both state's allegations are linked to a Phoenix political consulting firm called Sproul & Associates run by Nathan Sproul, former head of the Arizona Republican Party. Sproul & Associates has received nearly $500,000 from the Republican National Committee this election cycle, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. ... According to KLAS-TV, a former employee claimed hundreds, if not thousands, of Democratic registration forms were destroyed by a Sproul & Associates group called Voters Outreach of America. The former employee first told local Nevada reporters that he had personally witnessed his boss shredding eight to ten voter registration forms, according to Steve George, a spokesman for the Nevada Secretary of State."

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/14/politics/main649380.shtml

And this case actually involved evidence that the GOP itself was involved, and it was about hundreds, maybe thousands of democratic registrations being torn up, allegedly by a guy running the organization.

[Edited on October 15, 2008 at 10:04 AM. Reason : .]

10/15/2008 10:01:51 AM

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10/15/2008 10:25:56 AM

holy shit has nutsmackr done anything in this thread aside from call hooksaw a pederast? what a fucking troll ass bitch

10/15/2008 12:44:10 PM

someone doesn't get the point either.

10/15/2008 1:25:54 PM