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"We draw annually Duke, UNC, and Wake Forest. Disappointed we drop Clemson annually, especially since Clemson has only 1 annual protected rivalry in this model."

That really sucks. Was already bad enough not playing FSU annually.

10/31/2023 8:43:14 AM

We do play fsu or clemson every year until 2030.

10/31/2023 8:48:01 AM

State should go independent and sign a TV deal with the CW.

11/11/2023 5:28:20 PM

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" JT3bucky All American 23088 Posts user info edit post Clemson first to announce leaving the Acc?? FSU unc b1G Clemson ncsu sec? Interesting October "

It was an interesting October for sure

11/21/2023 6:19:02 AM

Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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"consider yourself officially called out."

11/21/2023 6:57:15 AM

Could be October 2024

11/21/2023 7:24:51 AM

or 2036. Can't call him wrong until we wait 13 more years.

11/21/2023 9:52:04 AM

Maybe he meant October Rice

[Edited on November 21, 2023 at 11:17 AM. Reason : Callback!!! ]

11/21/2023 11:17:51 AM

A haha

11/21/2023 12:31:23 PM

Lol

11/21/2023 12:45:19 PM

LMAO at FSU.

12/22/2023 10:36:17 AM

Clemson has now filed suit btw

3/20/2024 10:32:21 AM

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"Anyone know what's up with all this and the ACC and how it looks thoughts on the cali schools and what's the ESPN/Fox angle https://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=379858&page=5#16667359"

From everything I've heard, the GoR is pretty iron-clad and the main arguments being used by both Clemson and FSU are basically the "hail marry" of court cases, unconscionability and violation of public policy. They're more or less trying to argue that their own lawyers didn't do their due-diligence back when they signed the documents, which isn't likely to stand in court. ((BUT I'm not a lawyer this is just what I've read))

I don't love the Cali schools, but I don't hate it. I think the addition helped us make increased revenue, while the schools -- especially SMU -- take less of a cut to still be in a 'functioning' (If only barely) conference. Travel will suck, the move is stupid from every athletic sense of decision making, but it makes money and keeps us afloat, so whatever I guess

The ESPN/Fox angle is that they get to consolidate competition and trim the fat. Remove the underperforming teams to contracts they get for cheaper (Big 12 or G5 conference), reduce the number of heads at the table arguing, and streamline match-ups. Also helps the process of divorcing from the bowl system to an ever-expanding playoff, if they choose to go that direction, since they'll single-handedly control more media rights instead of a bunch of disparate and fragmented alliances.

All in all I think CFB is just NASCARing itself for want of greed. The reasons I watch CFB are growing less and less, and as it just turns into NFL-lite, I'd rather just deal with the Panthers -- they're sorry enough as is. Personally I'd rather just stick with the teams we've historically played and be happy with that, Natty hopes be damned. I just can't make myself be interested in games with no bearing or history. I probably won't stop watching or following NC State football, but I've already lost my interest in watching most non-NCSU football games because of this.

3/20/2024 11:40:49 AM

Not a surprise, for football they have a better argument then FSU.

I am guessing our hopes lie with the UNC BOT insisting we are a package deal with UNC, otherwise we are stuck.

Also feel like its inevitable with UT's lawsuit the SEC and B!G form their own collegiate superleague with their own championships.

3/20/2024 12:09:27 PM

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"All in all I think CFB is just NASCARing itself for want of greed. The reasons I watch CFB are growing less and less, and as it just turns into NFL-lite, I'd rather just deal with the Panthers -- they're sorry enough as is. Personally I'd rather just stick with the teams we've historically played and be happy with that, Natty hopes be damned. I just can't make myself be interested in games with no bearing or history. I probably won't stop watching or following NC State football, but I've already lost my interest in watching most non-NCSU football games because of this."

100% agree

3/20/2024 1:26:20 PM

MBAs ruin everything

Boeing, College Sports, Fast Food

no authenticity

3/20/2024 2:37:49 PM

Jalapeños

3/20/2024 4:34:58 PM

ACC powa

3/28/2024 10:27:17 PM

Acc as it used to be was sec #2

3/29/2024 12:13:46 AM

Hopefully these court cases aren't won by Clemson and FSU and hopefully ESPN doesn't op out of the ACC contract in 2025. I want to see more championships before we are stuck trying to win the 32 team SEC Tournament.

3/31/2024 11:51:20 PM

ACC GO ON THE OFFENSIVE GET BACK USC AND MARYLAND LET'S GO

4/1/2024 12:50:19 AM

No fuck sc and especially fuck Maryland

4/1/2024 12:56:36 AM

This is probably worth posting now as both the ACC and BIG 12 have approved the settlement and seems the other conferences are expected to follow:

https://www.espn.com/college-sports/story/_/id/40200280/ncaa-board-votes-accept-antitrust-settlement-sources-say

If I'm following correctly, this would mean schools that want to stay competitive are going to need to pony up $20 million a year in extra money to pay athletes starting in 2025. Short of some emergency deal with the BIG12 and a redo of the tv contract to get on par with Big10/SEC, is there any chance for the ACC to survive that?

We've already got the FSU/Clemson lawsuit. And UNC's board has randomly started rattling the saber about an upcoming athletic budget deficit, as if tons of schools don't run deficits. Seems likely they're building a narrative about why their future exit was forced on them financially.

[Edited on May 23, 2024 at 12:09 PM. Reason : .]

5/23/2024 12:08:52 PM

I think the ACC is already dead. This might speed it up. But it probably won’t exist as a legitimate power conference in like 4 years.

I do think you’ll see coaching salaries and maybe staff sizes decrease over time. The extravagant spending on locker room renovations and players’ lounges will be dialed back. The schools have had tons of money to spend on shit all along. They just gotta rework budgets, jack up ticket prices, etc.

I do wonder if a few schools like maybe BC will eventually drop out of the upper tier of college athletics. But idk.

5/23/2024 1:52:35 PM

Stupid-ass football is killing my basketball. Bring back the double round-robin format!

5/23/2024 3:10:51 PM

^^ oh and private equity. Thats probably coming too

5/23/2024 3:19:57 PM

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"UNC's board has randomly started rattling the saber about an upcoming athletic budget deficit"

To be fair, it was one guy on UNC's board who just so happens to also be running for state office. He's trying to get his name out there so people vote for him.

5/23/2024 4:28:33 PM

^ Ah, I didn't pick up on that angle of it. That makes more sense seeing how the AD seemed blindsided by it. If they're smart, they'll run with the budget as a reason to leave angle -- worked out for Maryland (sort of?). LOL.

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"I do wonder if a few schools like maybe BC will eventually drop out of the upper tier of college athletics. But idk."

Wait, BC didn't already do this?

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"The extravagant spending on locker room renovations and players’ lounges will be dialed back. The schools have had tons of money to spend on shit all along. They just gotta rework budgets, jack up ticket prices, etc."

Oh, that's a good point. Would be kind of ironic if schools that just invested in big capital projects to boost their programs actually struggle because they can't quickly shift that money to pay the players as much as maybe they could have.

5/24/2024 1:15:03 PM

Killing the pac-12 literally killed bill walton. I hope you're happy, SEC/B1G.

5/27/2024 4:35:24 PM