Next Saturday is make or break

I'm still holding onto the inkling of hope that Luck changes his mind

If not, fuck it, Newton or bust

1/6/2011 3:55:45 PM

"Man, that was a close one."

1/6/2011 3:58:51 PM

Wow ... luck just gave a big fuck you to the panthers. can't really say i blame him though.

Do the Panthers go CB with the first pick? We definitely need one, and there's two corners worthy of top-5 picks in this draft. Still ... picking a corner #1

1/6/2011 4:00:14 PM

Also, Newton would make us finally fun to play as in Madden

1/6/2011 4:00:49 PM

My gameplan:

Draft AJ Green #1 overall or somehow trade down a few spots and get him.
Trade away Steve Smith.
Trade away DeA.
Tank the season.
Draft Andrew Luck #1 overall in 2012.

1/6/2011 4:11:59 PM

i say grab vince young possibly now

1/6/2011 4:12:41 PM

my gameplan:

- Andrew Luck spends the next 8 days banging as many Palo Alto hotties as his nuts will allow
- Next Saturday, he calls a press conference announcing his decision to go pro
- Panthers draft Luck, win 10 straight Super Bowls

1/6/2011 4:13:12 PM

Watch ... Luck will stay in school again if the Panthers get the top pick next year

1/6/2011 4:13:15 PM

does he expect to be a #1 pick overall, AND go to a good team?

1/6/2011 4:14:24 PM

Exactly. Does he not expect to be somewhere like Cleveland or Carolina again next year?

1/6/2011 4:16:35 PM

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"i say grab vince young possibly now"

ugh, please no. At least cam newton has the possibility of being better with his floor being vince young.

1/6/2011 4:16:35 PM

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"Buster_ESPN Buster Olney The 2011 dreams of a Vikings fan are shattered: Luck staying in college. Maybe the Vikes will find a way to get him next year... "

wat

1/6/2011 4:19:27 PM

Stick to baseball, Buster

1/6/2011 4:20:39 PM

lol Im sure his thinking was "If I wait til next year I might go to a good team." c'mon man

1/6/2011 4:21:08 PM

I would've left school early for 80 thousand

He doesn't leave early for 80 million

1/6/2011 4:22:31 PM

at the very least we need a veteran qb presence on the side lines... so if not vince young as a starter, someone who's been in the league for a while. maybe Kolb as a starter or hasselbeck to coach pike up

1/6/2011 4:25:56 PM

welp

trade down, take mallet, let him throw bombs every play to steve smith

who really cares at this point

1/6/2011 4:26:04 PM

the offensive philosophy of whatever coach we get (imo the leader is currently Rob Ryan) will determine it all. With a D coordinator I have no idea what type of system he would run.

1/6/2011 4:28:49 PM

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"imo the leader is currently Rob Ryan"

everything I've heard is that Russ Grimm is the guy, but its just speculation

1/6/2011 4:31:15 PM

i understand if he wants to get his degree, but he can do that shit later

1/6/2011 4:31:42 PM

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NFL&id=2351&line=198122&spln=1

no Grimm

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2011 4:32:23 PM

rob ryan as HC/DC, and josh mcdaniels as OC/QBs coach

let's go

1/6/2011 4:34:47 PM

I'd like to see the stats of when a non qb/rb was drafted number one, I think taking a WR number one is too risky and not worth it, seems like there are plenty of WR busts especially with us, I wouldn't be against taking a CB

1/6/2011 4:34:56 PM

^^^Thank God

^^Fine with me. Him or Rivera

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 4:35 PM. Reason : ]

1/6/2011 4:35:18 PM

well I guess not

I'm not a fan of Rob Ryan...whats he ever won? Whats he proven? Do we really want another coordinator from the powerhouse known as the Cleveland Browns?

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 4:37 PM. Reason : .]

1/6/2011 4:35:24 PM

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"does he expect to be a #1 pick overall, AND go to a good team? "

I think he probably just wants to go to a team with SOME sort of identity. We have no head coach, no OC, no QB coach right now. All we are is Jerry Richardson and his two henchman. Not too inviting...

1/6/2011 4:37:32 PM

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"I think he probably just wants to go to a team with SOME sort of identity. We have no head coach, no OC, no QB coach right now. All we are is Jerry Richardson and his two henchman. Not too inviting..."

And in a market where the opposing team's fans often run the home fans out of the stadium or at the least show more spirit in losing then we do in winning as rare as that's been lately.

1/6/2011 4:38:34 PM

^^, ^

with all due respect.....WHO CARES??? THAT'S $50M GUARANTEED LEFT ON THE TABLE!!!!

1/6/2011 4:41:45 PM

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"With a D coordinator I have no idea what type of system he would run."

whatever offense the OC he would bring in runs

1/6/2011 4:43:56 PM

wouldnt be that $50 mill...not with the rookie salary limitations that are forthcoming.

1/6/2011 4:47:14 PM

Guys guys guys

You don't need the #1 pick to get the #1 QB

1/6/2011 4:47:16 PM

Tom Brady says you don't need to spend a 1st day pick to get the best QB in the NFL

1/6/2011 4:48:36 PM

Nick Fairley cmon down

1/6/2011 4:49:44 PM

That's the spirit

Now go out there and waste a pick on an offensive lineman

Your QB will come

1/6/2011 4:50:12 PM

Green Bay might need to shore up the offensive line

What did Rodgers get, 3 different concussions this season?

1/6/2011 4:50:43 PM

They should draft Russell Wilson anyway

1/6/2011 4:51:59 PM

Yeah, and one playoff berth

Boooolaga's gonna come around

Especially when they move him to the left side, Clifton is washed up

But enough about me

1/6/2011 4:52:01 PM

Scott Says...

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"Why Luck really stayed Andrew Luck has always been sort of unconventional. Picking Stanford -- when you're a highly-sought high school quarterback playing in the "Friday Night Lights" of Texas -- was unconventional. Especially given Stanford had just gone 1-11, and when you had offers from a whole lot of other places. Now Luck has picked Stanford again -- this time over the instant riches assured by being the No.1 draft pick, which Carolina would have made him. Luck just completed his redshirt sophomore year at Stanford, throwing four TD passes in Stanford's 40-12 victory over Virginia Tech in the Orange Bowl Monday night. I talked to Luck's father, Oliver Luck, by phone about the decision Thursday afternoon. He said it mostly boiled down to Luck wanting "at least one more year with his guys" -- his Stanford teammates, whom Luck wants to win a Pac-10 championship with. Oliver Luck said his son also wanted to graduate before he left school, which is what he is on track to do by the spring of 2012. "It's kind of old-school, I know, but he went to college with the idea of not leaving until he got a degree," said Oliver Luck, who is the athletic director at West Virginia and a former NFL quarterback himself. Oliver Luck also stressed -- and I asked him several times -- that the fact that his son would have ended up in Carolina had he declared early for the draft had "absolutely nothing to do with this decision." Jerry Richardson's news conference Tuesday, the Panthers' horrible 2010 season -- none of it mattered. To hear the father tell it, the son barely even talked about the impending lockout, much less what team he would end up on. "Those external factors were just not that important to him," Luck said. "He wanted to go back to Stanford." Believe me, this was a bigger loss than any of the 14 the Panthers suffered this season to get that No.1 pick. Whenever Andrew Luck does come out, he's going to be special. But the Panthers haven't had much right happen in the past couple of years, and now here's another example that was totally out of their control. Luck wants to stay. He should complete his degree in the spring of 2012 as a fourth-year junior, and so I'll betcha he does leave Stanford a year early (although the father said they would make that a separate decision a year from now). Silver lining? If there's no NFL season at all in 2011, the Panthers would then apparently hold the No.1 pick in the 2012 draft, too, and Luck will likely be available for that one. But few people expect the entire season to be lost, and of course by then the Panthers may have taken Cam Newton or Jake Locker or Ryan Mallett, and you really can't invest two straight high first-round draft choices on QB with so many other needs. (On the other hand, if Carolina doesn't take a QB and plays Jimmy Clausen again in 2011, then maybe they will end up with that No.1 pick one more time). But it's such a longshot -- look, Panther fans need to face it. If it weren't for bad Luck, they'd have no Luck at all... gloom, despair and agony on them. (And if you know what TV show that lyric is from, you're a true Southerner)."

1/6/2011 4:53:38 PM

Do you watch all the Packers games, or only when they're on National TV

1/6/2011 4:54:36 PM

I only actually watched them that time they were in the Super Bowl and lost to Jim Elway

1/6/2011 4:56:15 PM

^^^
Guess I'm not a true Southerner. (Had to look it up)

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 4:56 PM. Reason : f]

1/6/2011 4:56:22 PM

i didnt know it, and i still didnt look it up

1/6/2011 4:56:46 PM

let the #1 pick go to another position and sign this washed up old guy.


???

Steve Smith will finally get the catches he never got htis season

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 5:09 PM. Reason : ]

1/6/2011 5:08:39 PM

I'm not a Cam Newton believer. At all. I don't think he has what it takes between the ears to get it done on the big stage. They should wait on QB now and try to get a guy like Kellen Moore in one of the later rounds.

I wouldn't be disappointed in Fairley with the top pick. He's as safe a bet as they come in the top 5 and it addresses a big need for the Panthers. Given proper development he has a Jenkins 2.0 feel.

1/6/2011 5:12:28 PM

only if the nfl begins counting short-hopped catches as receptions

perfect time to include that rule change in the CBA

[Edited on January 6, 2011 at 5:14 PM. Reason : re: donovan]

1/6/2011 5:13:36 PM

Scott Fowler is such a fag

1/6/2011 5:17:10 PM

Tom Talks >>>> Scott Says

1/6/2011 5:19:32 PM

I like when QCB makes fun of Scott Fowler

1/6/2011 5:20:08 PM

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"let the #1 pick go to another position and sign this washed up old guy."

That ship has sailed, brah

1/6/2011 5:20:45 PM

Lets petition a mod to edit the first post so we don't have to see Luck's punk ass every time we reply

1/6/2011 5:21:36 PM