OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
... to replace the hole that I blew in the Hooker shorties... It pulls harder now, although I don't see too much of a difference on the low end, but up around 3rd and 4th gear, there is a world of difference... I haven't had a chance to see 5th gear, and 6th gear, well, i am not dumb enough to go that fast around here...
[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 12:00 AM. Reason : .] 9/22/2005 11:55:05 PM |
Ronny All American 30652 Posts user info edit post |
nice 9/22/2005 11:55:52 PM |
SaabTurbo All American 25459 Posts user info edit post |
nuggettubes
[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 12:34 AM. Reason : eqtubes] 9/23/2005 12:32:12 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
your lowend shouldnt really increase at all since you are getting rid of a ton of back pressure. what brand did you get? 9/23/2005 1:19:22 AM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
pacesetter because they came with the EGR hookup 9/23/2005 1:40:29 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
paceSHITTER. 9/23/2005 1:55:39 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
thats what i went went
a whole lot cheaper than all other brands and they slid in perfect. 9/23/2005 9:23:16 AM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
back pressure is a good thing 9/23/2005 9:24:46 AM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
no. 9/23/2005 10:49:07 AM |
LoYotaNCSU All American 5793 Posts user info edit post |
pacesetter is such complete shit...I hope you're already shopping for your next set 9/23/2005 11:06:14 AM |
tkeaton All American 5775 Posts user info edit post |
ok, cool
maybe you should read up on exhaust design and principles
you want to have some amount of back pressure. your exhaust system works by creating a vacuum to pull the gases out of and away from the engine. if you put too large of a system on there, pipes too big, etc, you are decreasing your cars natural vacuum system, thereby reducing the speed at which EGs are removed from the system. yes, there is some benefit to running larger pipes and components, but there quickly develops an issue of diminishing returns
i can go further if you would like me to, but back pressure is a good thing, yes there are variables and yes, too much is a bad thing, but the dumbass idea of putting larger pipes (i know this isnt the complete issue being discussed here) to increase your flow, and increase HP or whatever is just plain wrong. 9/23/2005 11:08:03 AM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
No engine ever wants backpressure. Backpressure is NEVER good. Why would you ever want something that is fighting exhaust getting out and away from the engine? What you do want is exhaust gas velocity, there is a difference. 9/23/2005 11:58:49 AM |
beethead All American 6513 Posts user info edit post |
^ true 9/23/2005 12:04:48 PM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18964 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thanks for saving me the time and effort. look up scavenging effect. 9/23/2005 12:06:07 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
pacesetter headers do suck 9/23/2005 12:12:57 PM |
LoYotaNCSU All American 5793 Posts user info edit post |
pacesetter (*insert product here)s do suck 9/23/2005 12:14:04 PM |
Ds97Z All American 1687 Posts user info edit post |
^Not neccesarily. The f-body longtubes they make are as good as any, and they cost quite a bit less than hookers or jet hots. They even come with the same coating. 9/23/2005 12:26:16 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
^ what i have been trying to say 9/23/2005 12:32:08 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
the fact that they cost less is reason enough that they are shit they have a worse rep and therefore have to have lower prices 9/23/2005 12:35:59 PM |
LoYotaNCSU All American 5793 Posts user info edit post |
remember that generally, you get what you pay for...pacesetter products will not perform or last nearly as long as other brands 9/23/2005 12:44:14 PM |
skywalkr All American 6788 Posts user info edit post |
they are headers
they are made to the same dimensions as the others and they give the same performance. i payed $250 for them and if i was going to get any better headers they would be kooks or qtp's which cost over $800. im pretty sure these will last me longer than i own my car.
for a fbody there is no reason to get anything better than pacesetter unless you wanna step it up to stainless. if you do any research on a fbody message board you will learn that that is pretty much how it goes.
[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 3:17 PM. Reason : .] 9/23/2005 3:16:20 PM |
arghx Deucefest '04 7584 Posts user info edit post |
I know they make a header for my car (Rx-7) that sucks monkey balls compared to the competition. 9/23/2005 3:35:50 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
pacesitter wtf
might as well go to fuckin midas and spraypaint the $20 one year special 9/23/2005 4:14:44 PM |
ScHpEnXeL Suspended 32613 Posts user info edit post |
ya'll bitch a lot whether you know a damn thing or not
they aren't the best, but whatever, they're better than the shorties that were on there before. if you want to see any real differences you'll probably need to get it on the dyno. what year is that thing anyways?? 9/23/2005 4:29:28 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
i think we had a pacesitter something on some kind of car, what was it? 9/23/2005 4:35:20 PM |
kostyaF All American 592 Posts user info edit post |
Pacesetter make a pretty damn good set of longtubes for fbodies. Quit hatin.
[Edited on September 23, 2005 at 9:11 PM. Reason : for real] 9/23/2005 9:10:54 PM |
LoYotaNCSU All American 5793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " if you want to see any real differences you'll probably need to get it on the dyno" |
no shit!
Quote : | "i think we had a pacesitter something on some kind of car, what was it?" |
it was on the beetle, and within one month, it had rusted completely through
Pacesetter is shit. Period. Its the JC Whitney special, and there are not enough excuses to make your purchase justified. You say its the same as other brands, but then admit that if you had money you would buy the better ones. And saying they perform the same, unless you get on a dyno? Yall can't really be that stupid.9/23/2005 10:39:20 PM |
theDuke866 All American 52785 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "No engine ever wants backpressure. Backpressure is NEVER good. Why would you ever want something that is fighting exhaust getting out and away from the engine? What you do want is exhaust gas velocity, there is a difference.
" |
9/23/2005 10:41:22 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
the god da,m kooks are where its at for f body headers
you small time fuckers bragging about pacesetters being a good value and shit
go clip some coupons bitches 9/23/2005 11:42:22 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The f-body longtubes they make are as good as any, and they cost quite a bit less than hookers or jet hots. They even come with the same coating." |
they came with the EGR hookup and were only 40 bucks cheaper than the hookers... not to mention my last set of hookers got a hole blown out of them... yeah, that is going to make me want another set. From everything I have heard, pacesetters are just as good for f-bodys. The only reason to get something more expensive would be to get jet hots because they are coated. you guys obviously don't know shit, go ask any reputable shop that works with f-bodys, the pacesetters are just fine, and yes, there is a difference between the shorties and longtubes, and it is quite noticable...
the car is a 1995
[Edited on September 24, 2005 at 5:04 PM. Reason : .]9/24/2005 5:03:55 PM |
2L8IWON All American 1826 Posts user info edit post |
god damnit, shut the fuck up.
the pacesetter headers are NEARLY as good as any other header for the f-body.
Sure, they're not Groty's or freakin' Kooks, but damn, for the price, they flow well, look pretty darn good, and hold up very well.
Mike 9/25/2005 9:45:57 AM |
Scottyc All American 1956 Posts user info edit post |
mike has pacesetter exhaust on his BMW. 9/25/2005 3:56:43 PM |
gk2004 All American 6237 Posts user info edit post |
I put a set of pace setters on a friends 03 Z28. They fit awesome and were very easy to install even without a lift. Kooks has the reputation but damn for the money.......... 9/25/2005 4:01:37 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ I am assuming that "shut the fuck up" wasn't intended for me... 9/25/2005 10:43:35 PM |
Bearden All American 1669 Posts user info edit post |
^^2002 maybe? I have pacesetters on my fbody and they've been great so far. 9/26/2005 8:37:28 AM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.horsepowerjunkies.com/forums/showthread.php?t=23048 too bad that got locked, I could have continued wiping the floor with your stupid ass
[Edited on October 12, 2005 at 11:33 PM. Reason : .] 10/12/2005 11:33:24 PM |
Diggler All American 820 Posts user info edit post |
Lack of hands on knowledge has clutterfucked another TWW thread.
The Pacesetter's make good power, and are cheap to boot. It might not have a Jet-Hot coating, but then again if looking clean isnt your thing it really doesn't matter. And Pacesetter might make some other things that aren't of decent quality, but their long tubes have a good rep. 10/12/2005 11:38:32 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
damn speedometer sensors 10/12/2005 11:38:44 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
dastardly VSS syndrome 10/12/2005 11:41:37 PM |
LoYotaNCSU All American 5793 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The Pacesetter's make good power, and are cheap to boot" |
troo10/12/2005 11:46:57 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
wrong 10/13/2005 12:19:56 AM |
2L8IWON All American 1826 Posts user info edit post |
Why is this thread still here?
The argument has ended (see my previous post) - and I'm all knowing, of course.
Mike 10/13/2005 12:36:47 AM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
i dunno, but I saw your M3 on western a while ago... it looks good, i want one 10/13/2005 12:48:56 AM |
2L8IWON All American 1826 Posts user info edit post |
preciate it man. I thought I'd seen you; you were on the phone the whole time. Car looks good though; sounds even better. The LT1 sounds damned good
Mike 10/13/2005 9:29:08 AM |
dustm All American 14296 Posts user info edit post |
The pacesetter header on my corolla has held up fine for 2+ years. Its a 4-1 which is obviously not ideal, but my original manifold was cracked, and the pacesetter was cheaper than a factory replacement.
The first few days when the paint was burning off was the most fun. 10/13/2005 4:07:10 PM |
OuiJamn All American 5766 Posts user info edit post |
^^ thanks man, now I just need to keep it running for more than a month at a time... 10/14/2005 12:52:17 AM |