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Race is a very imortant subject throughout the Bible. Here are the facts: God chose one race of people, the Israelites, to be his special people above all other people. The Old Testament is full of references of how God hated entire races of people [eg, the Edomites (from whom the modern-day "Jews" descend), Canaanites, and others], and how he acted to destroy many of these people. God even ordered the Israelites to massacre all the foreign Canaanite peoples before settling in the promised land. God commanded racial segregation and forbid interracial marriage for the Israelites to maintain their racial purity. Later on in the New Testament, we discover that Jesus only came for the Israelites (which makes perfect sense due to the fact that only the Israelites were under the law and needed a "savior").

[Important Related Issues: In order to properly understand the Bible, one needs to know that that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the true descendants of the Israelites, while the modern-day so-called "Jews" are NOT descendants of the Israelites, but rather of the Edomites, Turkish Khazars, and others.]


Special Note

For those that care about the Bible and call themselves "Christians", I'm writing this primarily for you. I only ask that you consider this information, and then you can decide for yourselves. First, ask yourselves this: does not the Bible warn us to be wary of what the "world" teaches? Does it not teach that most people are wrong, there are many false teachers, and only a few find the truth? Does it not say that Satan is in control of the "world"? And recent (and long past) events should have taught us to not trust the establishment media, academia, and "mainstream" churches. The establishment/"mainstream"/"world" is actively involved in deceiving and lying to us and covering up the truth on many important issues.


Introduction:

Although this is not widely known or taught, the Bible places a lot of importance on race. There is an ongoing attempt in the "mainstream" churches to cover up these facts. Some of the true meaning of the Bible is hidden because of faulty translations and misinterpretations of the original scripture.

And in case you have any doubt, I'm not attacking the Bible. I'm trying to shead light on the true message of the Bible, and demonstrate that what is now called "racism" and 'anti-Semitism" is NOT the "sin of all sins" that our politically correct (Jewish/Zionist-controlled) establishment media/academia/etc would make it out to be. To the contrary, what is now considered "racism" is part of God's nature and commandments. That is why the "world" so strongly condemns these beliefs.


"Racism"

What is the definition of "racist"? Is it "discrimination or prejudice based on race"? Is it placing importance on race? Believing one race is "superior" to others? And what does it really mean to be "racist" in today's world?

Essentially, only whites can be "racist" according to the establishment media/academia/etc, and this "racism" is manifested when whites express pride in their race or culture, express the belief that whites should only marry whites, or that whites should be able to live seperately from the other races in their own countries and should not be forced to "integrate" with the other races.

God commands racial segregation and purity for Israelites:

Do you think that those old laws (which existed in America until the 1960s) forbidding interracial marriage and requiring racial segregation were just the product of "backward thinking"? Do you not think they had legitimate reasons and a perhaps a religious basis for such strong beliefs?

Deuteronomy 7:3 "Neither shalt thou make marriages with them: thy daughter thou shalt not give unto his son, nor his daughter shalt thou take unto thy son."

Exodus 33:16 "So shall we be separated, I and all of Thy people, from all the people that are upon the face of the earth."

Ezra 9:2 "For they have taken of their daughters for themselves, and for their sons: so that the HOLY SEED have MIXED themselves with the people of those lands: yea, the hand of the princes and rulers hath been chief in this TRESPASS ."

Nehemiah 9:2 "And the seed of Israel separated themselves from all STRANGERS and stood and confessed their sins, and the iniquities of their fathers."

Nehemiah 13:3 "Now it came to pass, when they had heard the law, that they separated from Israel all the MIXED multitude."

Hosea 5:7 "They have dealt treacherously against YAHWEH: for they have begotten STRANGE children:"


Note: "Strangers" above in Nehemiah 9:2 is from the Hebrew word "nekar" (meaning "a foreigner" or an "alien"). And the word "strange" from Hosea 5:7 is from the Hebrew word "zuwr" meaing "a foreigner."

If you don't believe me, check in Strong's Concordance and a Hebrew/Greek lexicon.

Strong's Concordance: http://www.tgm.org/bible.htm
Hebrew and Greek Lexicon: http://www.eliyah.com/lexicon.html


Final Thoughts

These are the cold hard facts about the Bible. God discriminates based on race and commanded racial purity and segregation for his Israelite people. God loves some and hates others, and even destroys the races he hates in some cases. Racial discrimination is not "evil" and certainly not the "sin of all sins" that the establishment media, adademia, and even the flase churches would have you believe. The same goes for "anti-Semitism." The "world" (ie, "mainstream" establsiment media, academia, etc.) strongly condemns these beliefs because Satan and his minions are in control of the world. The "world" hates God, God's chosen people, and God's rules and commandments. So...should you not be suspicious of the near-constant cries from the establishment media, adademia, and mainstream churches against "racism" and "anti-Semitism"?

And why does the establishment make it out that only whites can be "racist"? Why is there such a concerted and powerful effort in the establishment/media/academia to destroy the idea in whites that it is acceptable for them to take pride in their race and culture, or even want to preserve their race? At the same time, the establishment sends the message that it is perfectly fine for all the non-white races to take pride in their race and culture. Why is only the white race targetted? Think about it.

And before you try to call me a "Nazi" or associate me with the KKK, neo-Nazis, or any other related groups, understand that those groups are controlled opposition groups. I have nothing to do with those groups. And if you try to suggest that I'm associated with them, you're just using a smear-by-association argument...as opposed to a rational argument that actually discusses the issues. Those groups are Zionist-controlled and used for propaganda purposes to demonize whites who hold certain viewpoints--including the idea that whites can have pride in their race and should live seperate from the other races.


[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 1:32 PM. Reason : `]

3/3/2006 1:17:56 PM

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"Important Related Issues: In order to properly understand the Bible, one needs to know that that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the true descendants of the Israelites,"


Gee, where have I heard that before?

Oh right.

http://www.natvan.com/

3/3/2006 1:20:48 PM

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"And before you try to call me a "Nazi" or associate me with the KKK, neo-Nazis, or any other related groups, understand that those groups are controlled opposition groups. I have nothing to do with those groups. And if you try to suggest that I'm associated with them, you're just using a smear-by-association argument...as opposed to a rational argument that actually discusses the issues."

3/3/2006 1:23:16 PM

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Dude, any argument that is based on the Bible is a waste of keystrokes.

3/3/2006 1:23:33 PM

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"Dude, any argument that is based on the Bible is a waste of keystrokes."



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"Special Note

For those that care about the Bible and call themselves "Christians", I'm writing this primarily for you."

3/3/2006 1:24:25 PM

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"And if you try to suggest that I'm associated with them, you're just using a smear-by-association argument...as opposed to a rational argument that actually discusses the issues.""


racism is racism
anti-semitism is anti-semitism

It doesn't matter what kind of paranoid "us vs. them" bullshit you try to mask it with, it's all the same thing.

I give this thread another five or so posts before somebody else comes in here, proves how full of shit you are, and you attempt to hide behind your same old lame-ass "You're not discussing the issues! Everything I say three times is true!" schtik.

3/3/2006 1:29:00 PM

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another five pages of people giving this more thought than it deserves.

3/3/2006 1:38:25 PM

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"racism is racism
anti-semitism is anti-semitism"


Yeah, and guess what? It's NOT wrong to hold those beliefs.

GOD is a "racist." God is an "anti-Semite." I'm in good company.

Associating those beliefs with Zionist-controlled phony opposition groups like the National Alliance or the KKK does not make those beliefs wrong. The KKK and other similar groups appear nominally Christian and oppose illegal immigration and homosexuality. Does that mean that it is wrong to oppose homosexuality and illegal immigration? Or that all Christians are "evil." Of course not. But that's what taking a "smear by association" argument to the extreme would necessitate.

3/3/2006 1:38:31 PM

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You're a fucking retard.

3/3/2006 1:45:02 PM

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"Anti-Semitism"

What does the charge of "anti-Semitism" really mean? Essentially, it means you are "anti-Jew" and dare to criticize the Jews, their religion, or the Jewish state of "Israel." In fact, if you fail to speak in gushingly loving terms when speaking of Jews, you may be labelled an "anti-Semite." An "anti-Semite" might also be said to be a person who "hates the Jews." But, as you will find if you read the Bible, God himself hates these people who call themselves "Jews" (but are NOT Israelites).

Jesus (Yahshua) strongly condemned the "Jewish" faith, which is Phariseeism/Talmudism.

Jesus speeking to the Pharisees:

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do." (John 8:44)

"Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?" (Matthew 23:33)


[*Note: "generation" in the above verse is from the Greek word "gennema", meaning "offspring". And the context of this chapter reveals that Jesus was condemning the race of people to which the Pharisees belonged.]

I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.” (Revelation 2:9)

So, there are people pretending to be "Jews" (ie, Israelites of the tribe or nation of Judah), but who are NOT "Jews" (and not Israelites). I wonder who that could be?

"And I hated Esau, and laid his mountains and his heritage waste for the dragons of the wilderness. Whereas Edom saith, We are impoverished, but we will return and build the desolate places; thus saith the LORD of hosts, They shall build, but I will throw down; and they shall call them, The border of wickedness, and, The people against whom the LORD hath indignation for ever." (Malachi 1:3-4)

[Note: Edom is another name for Esua. The Edomites are the descendants of Esau. Now, who are the Edomites? The 1925 edition of the Jewish Encyclopedia stated that “Edom is modern Jewry.”]

God predicts that he will use the Israelites to totally destroy the Edomites:

Obadiah 1:18 "And the house of Jacob shall be a fire, and the house of Joseph a flame, and the house of Esau for stubble, and they shall kindle in them, and devour them; and there shall not be any remaining of the house of Esau; for the LORD hath spoken it."

So, God says he will completely destroy the Edomites (ie, the so-called "Jews")? Sure seems about as "anti-Semitic" as you can get.


[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 1:50 PM. Reason : `]

3/3/2006 1:47:23 PM

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OK, so how are hate groups "Zionist-controlled"? Please, gimme some proof.

3/3/2006 1:47:44 PM

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Ok, I've got three questions...

1) I remember very little from my few years of church school, but wasn't there a story where God was planning to destroy a city of sinners, and someone asked "what if there was just one good person in that city, would you spare it?" and God said, "yes, I would spare it if there was one good person" ?

So (assuming I remember that story right), are we to say that that all peoples of all races except the True Israelites are evil? And even if there were some good people among these other races, God would still destroy/ignore them?

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"In order to properly understand the Bible, one needs to know that that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the true descendants of the Israelites, while the modern-day so-called "Jews" are NOT descendants of the Israelites, but rather of the Edomites, Turkish Khazars, and others."


You brought this up in http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=389848&page=1, and I only saw one paragraph of historical reference, and it was sketchy at best. Most of your other evidence were out-of-context quotes from the Bible.

So if I understand this right, the only way to properly understand the Bible is to believe something that you can only prove by quoting the Bible?

3) And I ask this in all seriousness, what is with all the words in quotes? Does "racist" and "superior" somehow mean something different than just racist and superior on their own?

3/3/2006 2:04:31 PM

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"Those groups are Zionist-controlled and used for propaganda purposes to demonize whites who hold certain viewpoints--including the idea that whites can have pride in their race and should live seperate from the other races."


You have never proven this. I assume that you never will, but will keep repeating it in the hopes that it comes true.

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"In order to properly understand the Bible, one needs to know that that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the true descendants of the Israelites"


Can you give us some proof regarding this? Simply saying that they crossed the Caucasus mountains (just like caucasians!!!1!1!) proves nothing.

You know what you desperately want to believe, so you twist facts and interpretations to rationalize it. The fact that no one else buys it should tell you something.

3/3/2006 2:16:47 PM

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"And I ask this in all seriousness, what is with all the words in quotes?"


That's his proof that he's not controlled by the Evil Jews<tm> like all the other racists on the planet are.

3/3/2006 2:19:39 PM

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Why, salisburyboy? Suppose everything you've said is true, what can we do with that information?

Let's say you had the power, salisburyboy...

What would you do with that power?

3/3/2006 2:25:26 PM

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"OK, so how are hate groups "Zionist-controlled"? Please, gimme some proof."


First off, it is admitted Zionist policy to CREATE "anti-Semitism." The Zionist movement needs it to fuel their movement. Don't believe me? The Jews even admit it:

Zionism Promotes Anti-Semitism
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/antisemitism/zionismpromotes.cfm

Zionism and Anti-Semitism
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/zionism/zanda.cfm


An important thing to consider is the fact that most of the neo-Nazi, KKK, and similar groups are heavily infiltrated by government agents. Many of the organizations are actually created and lead by government agents. Another important thing about these organizations is that they are openly critical of Jews and Zionist power, but often fail to discuss the most important issues. For instance, most of these organziations have almost completely ignored the Israeli/Mossad invovlement in 9/11. David Duke, for example, openly supports the government's conspiracy theory on 9/11, saying the muslims are to blame and downplays Israeli/Mossad involvment. If these organizations were truly intended to oppose the Zionists, wouldn't they be jumping over this information? Of course. The reason they have not done so is because they are controlled opposition groups. They are designed to make critics of the Jews and Zionists look like fools who have no substance to their arguments. That is why the leadership of the organizations steers them clear of discussing some of the most important issues. The leadership of these organizations are clearly either: 1. bought off; or 2. were government/Zionist agents from the beginning. Sometimes its hard to tell which is the case.

Now, in order to hide the Zionist involvement in these organizations, it is advantageous to use non-Jewish agents. Nevertheless, there are Jewish connections (by name) to many of these groups. Here's some facts off the top of my head. The "stormfront" website is registered in West Plam Beach, FL, a heavily Jewish community. And remember Dylan Klebold of the Columbine shootings? He was heavily into Hitler and the occult, and guess what? He was Jewish. And the shooter at the recent Red Lake school Shooting in Minnesota was a kid named Jeff Weise, who was an admirer of Hitler. Weise is a Jewish surname. The kid was adopted, and Weise was the name of his step-father. Now, I realize that this is just a few examples, but there are other examples. And, as I said, they aim to hide overt Jewish (named) connections.

3/3/2006 2:25:40 PM

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"Why, salisburyboy? Suppose everything you've said is true, what can we do with that information?

Let's say you had the power, salisburyboy...

What would you do with that power?"

3/3/2006 2:27:12 PM

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"For instance, most of these organziations have almost completely ignored the Israeli/Mossad invovlement in 9/11."


Proof?

And your story about the kid in Minnesota proves nothing--and how do you know that Weise is a Jewish surname?

3/3/2006 2:29:34 PM

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"Why, salisburyboy? Suppose everything you've said is true, what can we do with that information?"


What do you do with any information you get? Assuming this information is true or making an advancement towards the truth, you use it to enhance your understanding of reality. And in this case, you would use this information to gain a better understanding of the truth about the Bible and God.

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"Let's say you had the power, salisburyboy...

What would you do with that power?"


The power to do what? Am I all powerful? That's really a useless hypothetical that only distracts from the issue. There are a lot of things I (or anyone else) would do if I were all-powerful.

3/3/2006 2:33:16 PM

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"What do you do with any information you get? Assuming this information is true or making an advancement towards the truth, you use it to enhance your understanding of reality. And in this case, you would use this information to gain a better understanding of the truth about the Bible and God."


Okay. So you've got this better understanding of the truth about the Bible and God. Now what are you going to do with that better understanding? Start your own church? Change the Bible to more clearly convey the "truth"? Exile and exterminate certain peoples who are unwilling to believe your version of God?

3/3/2006 2:36:45 PM

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What the fuck were "white people" doing in Israel/Middle East - BASIC FLAW IN LOGIC

3/3/2006 2:37:00 PM

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"I realize that this is just a few examples, but there are other examples. And, as I said, they aim to hide overt Jewish (named) connections."


You're gonna need more than a couple psycho kids to convince anyone.

3/3/2006 2:39:50 PM

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"They are designed to make critics of the Jews and Zionists look like fools who have no substance to their arguments. That is why the leadership of the organizations steers them clear of discussing some of the most important issues. The leadership of these organizations are clearly either: 1. bought off; or 2. were government/Zionist agents from the beginning. Sometimes its hard to tell which is the case."


You forgot the 3rd possibility, they really are fools who have no substance to their arguments.

3/3/2006 2:39:56 PM

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"gain a better understanding of the truth about the Bible and God"


I GOT IT!

It's bullshit, he doesn't exist and you're a douche!

ENLIGHTENMENT!

3/3/2006 2:42:12 PM

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Isn't there a website or non-profit org that we're supposed to report people like you to?

Who the fuck are you? Cartman with a keyboard?

3/3/2006 2:45:38 PM

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Give it time. Eventually he'll start signing his posts with "88" and talking about "Rahowa".

It'll happen. Always does with these types.

3/3/2006 2:47:33 PM

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"An important thing to consider is the fact that most of the neo-Nazi, KKK, and similar groups are heavily infiltrated by government agents. Many of the organizations are actually created and lead by government agents."


You have never proven this.

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"The leadership of these organizations are clearly either: 1. bought off; or 2. were government/Zionist agents from the beginning."


Simply because something is plausible does not mean that it is true. Once you make a wild claim, its good to have some sort of hard evidence to back it up. Proof is what convinces rational people.

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"Here's some facts off the top of my head. The "stormfront" website is registered in West Plam Beach, FL, a heavily Jewish community."


So? Prove that jews own the website.

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"And remember Dylan Klebold of the Columbine shootings? He was heavily into Hitler and the occult, and guess what? He was Jewish."


So? Was Klebold an agent of the NWO? Or are jews just instinctively motivated to promote anti-semitism and kill goys?

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"And the shooter at the recent Red Lake school Shooting in Minnesota was a kid named Jeff Weise, who was an admirer of Hitler. Weise is a Jewish surname. The kid was adopted, and Weise was the name of his step-father."


1) Weise is not a Jewish surname. It is a bavarian one derived from the german "weises" (meaning white). Many german names come from eke-names, or added names, and tend to describe a physical characteristic or other attribute of their initial bearer. Weise is a name for a person who had a pale complexion or fair colored hair.

2) Weise was an Ojibwa (Chippewa) Native American who expressed disgust with the lack of racial purity on his reservation. This is why he admired National Socialism. How many jew indians do you know?

3) He wasn't adopted.

3/3/2006 2:56:55 PM

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"So (assuming I remember that story right), are we to say that that all peoples of all races except the True Israelites are evil? And even if there were some good people among these other races, God would still destroy/ignore them?"


No, I'm not saying that all non-Israelites are evil. And I'm not saying that God will destroy all non-Israelite peoples (ie, exterminating them as a race). My point is that God has done this in certain instances in the past.

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"So if I understand this right, the only way to properly understand the Bible is to believe something that you can only prove by quoting the Bible?"


The fact that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the descendants of the Israelites can be proven from "secular" historical evidence as well, and not just biblical evidence.

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"And I ask this in all seriousness, what is with all the words in quotes? Does "racist" and "superior" somehow mean something different than just racist and superior on their own?"


Perhaps I overuse the quotes a bit, but I do that, in part, to demonstrate that I'm using the term in the sense as it is commonly rererred to, and not as an acknowledgement that I agree with that particular definition of the word or use of the term in that situation. And sometimes I think I use quotes just to give a word emphasis.

3/3/2006 2:59:01 PM

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"The fact that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the descendants of the Israelites can be proven from "secular" historical evidence as well, and not just biblical evidence"


I wanna know what white folks are doing in the Middle East - and my buddy Chuck is curious (Chuck Darwin).

3/3/2006 3:01:33 PM

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"I wanna know what white folks are doing in the Middle East "


First off, even "secular" historians say that the white peoples of Europe originated from the area around the Caucasus Mountains (which is just north of modern-day Iraq). That is why white people are also referred to as "Caucasians." Now, assuming this is accurate, is it not rational to assume that these people migrated northwards over the Cuacasus Mountains from the south? That would mean that they were once in the region around modern-day western Turkey, northern Iraq, and northwestern Iran. Don't even "secular" historians argue that the Mesopotamian area is the geographical origin of many of the peoples on the earth?

[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 3:09 PM. Reason : `]

3/3/2006 3:08:38 PM

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Caucasians didn't originate from the area around the Caucasus Mountains. The concept of a "Caucasian race" was first proposed by a German scientist named Johann Friedrich Blumenbach over 200 years ago. His studies based the classification of the Caucasian race primarily on skull features, which Blumenbach claimed were optimized by the Georgians, a people living in the Southern Caucasus. The name has nothing to do with immigration routes.

3/3/2006 3:20:52 PM

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"3) He wasn't adopted."


Now that I reconsider that, I think you're right. I thought I read that he was adopted. And he was not living with his mother, but with his grandmother.

Also, it appears Weise was his biological father's name.

[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 3:41 PM. Reason : `]

3/3/2006 3:32:26 PM

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do you know what the real conspiracy is?


the neocons and intellectual elite are tired of the Abrahamic facisms that have brought hell on earth in the modern world


they are teaming up with India and China for a new world order, based on the beliefs of the People of the Sun


its true

3/3/2006 3:34:33 PM

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^ Word. CTDC.

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"Now that I reconsider that, I think you're right. I thought I read that he was adopted. And he was not living with his mother, but with his grandmother."


OMG! Salisbury was wrong about something!

He lived with his grandfather. His dad was dead and his mother had brain damage from severe alcohol abuse. And no, he wasn't jewish.

3/3/2006 3:37:31 PM

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"OMG! Salisbury was wrong about something!"


Hey, I'll admit it if I'm wrong. Now, the question is whether some of the others who post here will do the same.

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"Weise is not a Jewish surname. It is a bavarian one derived from the german "weises" (meaning white)."


Just doing a quick search on the name Weise, I found reference to a German play titled "Nathan der Weise", which means "Nathan the Wise." In the play, Nathan is a Jewish merchant.

"Wise" is a widely used Jewish surname also. And "Weissman" is a similar common Jewish surname. And the actress Rachel Weisz is Jewish.

3/3/2006 3:56:19 PM

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Weise is not an exclusively jewish surname. You're going to have to find some evidence that Jeff Weise was a jew living on an indian reservation other than naming a jewish actress with a similar last name.

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"Caucasians didn't originate from the area around the Caucasus Mountains. The concept of a "Caucasian race" was first proposed by a German scientist named Johann Friedrich Blumenbach over 200 years ago. His studies based the classification of the Caucasian race primarily on skull features, which Blumenbach claimed were optimized by the Georgians, a people living in the Southern Caucasus. The name has nothing to do with immigration routes."


Comments?

3/3/2006 4:00:33 PM

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"is it not rational to assume that these people migrated northwards over the Cuacasus Mountains from the south? That would mean that they were once in the region around modern-day western Turkey, northern Iraq, and northwestern Iran."


Quite an assumption based on speculation.

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"Don't even "secular" historians argue that the Mesopotamian area is the geographical origin of many of the peoples on the earth?
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I believe Africa is what you're thinking of. Meopotamia is the origin of civilization (according to historians towing the Illuminati line).

3/3/2006 4:05:30 PM

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Yeah, that paragraph is almost straight out of the wikipedia article on "Caucasian race."

3/3/2006 4:07:16 PM

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Yeah. Refute it.

3/3/2006 4:09:43 PM

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"Just doing a quick search on the name Weise, I found reference to a German play titled "Nathan der Weise", which means "Nathan the Wise." In the play, Nathan is a Jewish merchant."


That is not proof of anything except that you know how to use a search engine and post nothing but logical fallacies. Try again.

3/3/2006 4:16:43 PM

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Isn't this douche supposed to only be allowed to post in 1 thread a week?

I could've sworn I heard that somewhere.

3/3/2006 4:17:12 PM

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The rule is that I can create (or bttt a thread that was old at the time this new rule took effect) a minimum of one thread per week. So, for instance, after 3 weeks I would be allowed to have created 3 new threads (and posting in those threads at the same time). theDuke866 has made that clear to me and the others here as well.

3/3/2006 4:32:00 PM

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"God even ordered the Israelites to massacre all the foreign Canaanite peoples before settling in the promised land. God commanded racial segregation and forbid interracial marriage for the Israelites to maintain their racial purity."


It's true that in one global context God did essentially order genocide, but it's also true that He quit doing so before the New Testament and was always very specific about which races He had a problem with. He told the Israelites not to intermarry with some, told them they could with others under certain circumstances, and mentioned still others not at all.

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"Later on in the New Testament, we discover that Jesus only came for the Israelites (which makes perfect sense due to the fact that only the Israelites were under the law and needed a "savior")."


Here you lose anything resembling Biblical support. Jesus helped and spoke well of various people from every ethnicity known to Israel at the time. Whenever you try to find Biblical quotes to support these theories, you leave out immensely important parts (ex, sure, Jesus said the whole bit about feeding the children, not the dogs, but then two seconds later He helped out the "dog" and commended her faith).

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"In order to properly understand the Bible, one needs to know that that the Anglo-Saxon, Germanic, Scandinavian, and kindred peoples of European descent are the true descendants of the Israelites"


Aside from all the various scientific flaws with this argument, I'm forced to wonder why God wouldn't point out this minor detail at some point in the Bible. Do you mean to tell me that He sent His Son and His book and every other facet of his message to the Palestine, talked primarily to the people that lived there, but really meant it for all the white people in Europe? Don't you think there'd be some mention of it?

3/3/2006 4:35:37 PM

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"Do you mean to tell me that He sent His Son and His book and every other facet of his message to the Palestine, talked primarily to the people that lived there, but really meant it for all the white people in Europe? Don't you think there'd be some mention of it?
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The fact remains that virtually all (99%+) of the Israelites did not return to Palestine following their release from captivity (in Assyria and Babylon) several centuries before the time of Jesus. These are the "Lost tribes of Israel", and the debate is over what happened to them and where they went. And Jesus instructed his followers to go and spread the gospel to the "lost sheep of the House of Israel." It seems logical that the disciples and apostles knew where to go and look for them. And then you have the fact that up until around the 19th century after Jesus, virtually all Christians were white people of European descent. So put 2 and 2 together.

There are mentions in the Bible as relating to a future home of the Israelites. For example, there is a passage of Scripture referring to Israel that talks about islands to the north and west (of Jerusalem), which can only be referring to the British Isles (Isaiah 49:1, 12).

That is just one example of scripture referring to the new homelands of the Israelites. There are several other references in the Bible.


[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 5:11 PM. Reason : `]

3/3/2006 5:02:10 PM

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I RESENT THIS ENTIRE THREAD

GANESH IS NOT A RACIST


3/3/2006 5:20:24 PM

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someone kill this kid

3/3/2006 6:36:25 PM

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salsiburyboy, do you jerk off to being a complete and total chode


and on a second note, do you really think that anyone gives a shit about your rants?

[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 6:39 PM. Reason : a reply to this is not needed because you are a tool]

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[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 6:41 PM. Reason : well said]

3/3/2006 6:38:18 PM

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Or Greece and Italy. Has it crossed your mind that the greeks and italians might be the real chosen people and you might be the false israelite?

3/3/2006 6:47:34 PM

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"For example, there is a passage of Scripture referring to Israel that talks about islands to the north and west (of Jerusalem), which can only be referring to the British Isles (Isaiah 49:1, 12)"


YES OBVIOUSLY HE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MANY MANY ISLANDS AROUND ASIA MINOR AND GREECE.

go sit in the corner.


MATISYAHU DOES NOT APPROVE

[Edited on March 3, 2006 at 7:12 PM. Reason : .]

3/3/2006 7:10:40 PM

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