Just saw Al Gores new movie. I liked it and would recommend it... If youve seen it post your thoughts also....

6/17/2006 5:11:44 PM

LOCK BOX

6/17/2006 5:13:52 PM

well... im not sure if the lock box might have worked the way he said it would... but then again it'd been more helpful to our generation and all concerned than the $600 dollar check our parents got.

Haha... sorry about the off topic...

[Edited on June 17, 2006 at 5:19 PM. Reason : you know]

6/17/2006 5:18:36 PM

there's a topic on this somewhere

6/17/2006 5:20:06 PM

post link if you want... sorry i didnt know.. i searched it

6/17/2006 5:22:38 PM

yeah I searched too, all i remember is that the thread title is incredibly indescriptive

6/17/2006 5:24:04 PM

its complete horse shit propaganda and liberal lies

6/17/2006 6:01:33 PM

http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=415466&page=1

6/17/2006 6:01:49 PM

^^ Haha... just looking at your posts in other threads... made me laugh

6/17/2006 6:02:31 PM

I'm super serial!

6/17/2006 6:14:46 PM

i am speaking, of course, of manbearpig.

6/17/2006 6:24:20 PM

it was OK
i couldn't sit still the whole time
where did you see it?

6/17/2006 6:32:31 PM

oh... im in charlotte so i had to go to Ballantyne if you know where that is... Wheres it playing in Raleigh?

6/17/2006 6:50:59 PM

it was the colony theater @ six forks & millbrook rd.... i had never been there before

6/17/2006 6:54:13 PM

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"LOCK BOX"

may I add

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" I invented the internet"

6/17/2006 10:42:10 PM

that's it

I'm convinced

6/17/2006 10:46:58 PM

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=d0235a70-33f1-45b3-803b-829b1b3542ef&p=1

Of course, we can trade links from experts all night and day from supporters and detractors. I guess it comes down to deciding who to believe. Though I would think that Al Gore should be very far down on that list.

6/17/2006 10:55:05 PM

I don't understand why everyone hates on Gore so much... is he realy that unlikeable...?... or is it a politics thing?

6/17/2006 11:24:40 PM

He's a boring nerd.

No matter how powerful or smart he is, Americans don't want to listen to a boring nerd.

6/18/2006 1:47:58 AM

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"is he realy that unlikeable...?"

Likening the people who doubt humans are mostly to blame for global warming to holocaust deniers tends to get people to not like you.

6/18/2006 9:37:20 AM

gore thinks nobody died of heatstroke and hurricanes didnt ever kill anyone before 100 years ago

6/19/2006 11:46:53 AM

who cares what scientists think anyways? They don't know shit.

6/19/2006 3:27:06 PM

who cares about all the other scientists who arent massive proponents of the global warming theory? they dont know shit

6/19/2006 3:36:15 PM

Global Warming is a scam created by liberal scientists wanting more funding and by the Jews.

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 3:53 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2006 3:53:14 PM

Hey, it's no big surprise the world is pushing ever faster toward oblivion. What's most annoying is that people will go see this movie, shrug and say "Oh, how tragic!" or "Oh, what lies!" and then do jack shit about anything in the real world to counteract the possibility of it being true. It's as if people have completely lost trust in any reporting whatsoever because we've been so jaded by the media or government lying to us. It's so hard to motivate people to do anything at all, I suppose because apathy is inevitably easier.

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"Americans don't want to listen to a boring nerd."

In fact, we'd much rather have an idiot as President.

6/19/2006 4:07:40 PM

that idiot isnt boring though...in the television era, hell since the nixon kennedy debate, its about the more charismatic candidate...the one who knows how to talk to people in a more personal way...bush is more charismatic and less boring than both kerry and gore...clinton was more charismatic and less boring than bob dole...michael dukakis was bland...reagan obviously knew how to play to the tv cameras as a former actor...etc

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"It's as if people have completely lost trust in any reporting whatsoever because we've been so jaded by the media or government lying to us"

A-FUCKING-MEN

6/19/2006 4:15:50 PM

No, I know why he got elected- I mean, he's very down home and personable in a very everyman sense. But I still think this country needs to elect men on some better criteria.

I mean, can you believe that, on the Discovery Channel survey, they elected RONALD REGAN as the greatest American to ever live? GWB was number 6. Americans piss me the fuck off sometimes.

6/19/2006 4:19:52 PM

Nobody likes the smartest kid in the class.

6/19/2006 4:25:24 PM

I know. I learned that in middle school.

6/19/2006 4:28:22 PM

p.s. Bartlett for America.

6/19/2006 4:29:41 PM

as far as global warming though, i took lots of science classes at state...i was fortunate enough to have relatively nonbiased professors educate me on some things...and with regards to global warming, i learned a few things that ANY scientist or science student should know

1. Global CO2 levels have DEFINITELY risen over the last 100 years
2. Global mean temperatures have DEFINITELY risen over the last few decades
3. Detailed data does not go back far enough for us to extrapolate any accurate analysis of whether these temperature increases are a direct result of rising CO2 levels or if they are simply natural Earth cycles
4. General data from soil core samples, etc shows that the Earth has had high levels of CO2 before with lower temperatures, suggesting they are not necessarily directly related in this case
5. There is evidence that supports global warming and evidence that refutes global warming.
6. There is no evidence that explicitly proves global warming does or does not exist

people can jump on either side to try and make their point, make their money, etc

but theres not a set-in-stone answer

6/19/2006 4:37:07 PM

winner

6/19/2006 5:09:29 PM

"July 06, 2005: During the Group of Eight meeting in Gleneagles, Scotland, President Bush acknowledged -- for the first time -- that pollution generated by humans is contributing to global warming."

from http://www.nrdc.org/bushrecord/airenergy_warming.asp

w.r.t TreeTwista10's comments

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"3. Detailed data does not go back far enough for us to extrapolate any accurate analysis of whether these temperature increases are a direct result of rising CO2 levels or if they are simply natural Earth cycles "

We have ice cores to 800,000 yrs back and sediment cores from the ocean floor that span back millions of years. The last time CO2 was this high was 2.7 Million years ago, which happens to be coincident with the onset of No. hemisphere glaciation. Comparision with past glacial-interglacial cycles suggests that we should actually be at the begining of a cooling phase (and decreasing CO2).

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" 4. General data from soil core samples, etc shows that the Earth has had high levels of CO2 before with lower temperatures, suggesting they are not necessarily directly related in this case "

I think you're refering to what is know as the Faint Young Sun paradox. High levels of CO2 have been invoked to explain the geologic evidence of liquid water during times in the past when the sun was about 30% less intense.

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" 5. There is evidence that supports global warming and evidence that refutes global warming. "

inconsistent with your #2 point

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" 6. There is no evidence that explicitly proves global warming does or does not exist "

again inconsistent w/ your #2 point

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 6:08 PM. Reason : ..]

6/19/2006 6:05:30 PM

This is my home too.

6/19/2006 6:06:19 PM

Ok... if global warming exists which i think most scientists agree on(the vast majority unless of course your salary is paid for by exxon for some bullshit like that).... And even if we humans are not a major cause ( which i think most scientists would not agree with: not to confuse anyone there... i think they would say we are a major reason).... Global Temperatures ARE RISING and they WILL have an impact on millions if not billions of people on this planet... Is it not human nature then... even if its not our fault to try to change things... reverse things... so that the earth remains habitable for us...? Or on the reverse if it is our fault why not try and reverse things also?... I mean once you see there a problems... And you see where your headed... Why not act?... And if Evermagenta is right and people are too apathetic then maybe humans do deserve to die out... But... i dont think so... i dont want to Die because of all you "Global Warming is a scam created by liberal scientists wanting more funding and by the Jews." Idiots... but maybe thats just me...

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 9:23 PM. Reason : i cant spell...]

6/19/2006 9:22:30 PM

Oh... And to Evermagenta... Are you doing anything yourself proactive against global warming starting a PAC... or joining one on campus... and if so...? which ones... I'm looking into it myself...

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 9:26 PM. Reason : i still cant spell ]

6/19/2006 9:25:38 PM

^^ Um, dude. I was joking. Its called SARCASM. I'm feeding into the bullshit.

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 11:26 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2006 11:25:21 PM

All I want to know is....


Will I be dead before this shit goes down????? If so, then I don't give a shit.

6/19/2006 11:36:26 PM

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"Oh... And to Evermagenta... Are you doing anything yourself proactive against global warming starting a PAC... or joining one on campus... and if so...? which ones... I'm looking into it myself..."

Of course not. I'm just as lazy as the rest of America, and besides, groups like Greenpeace end up looking just as stupid (it's all liberal propaganda, am i rite?!) to the public as the government telling us that oil will last forever. But I'm conscious of my inactivity and ready for the apocalypse, which will probably be brought on by overpopulation within my lifetime. I've been accused of killing the environment by not recycling one extra bottle by some of my more tree-hugging friends. But if they knew just how little of a dent polymer recycling was making (not to mention how difficult some of the processes can be), they'd be just as depressed as I am.

It's so hard to find meaning in a world in which nothing is to be believed.

But here's the list of Student Organizations registered with SORC:
http://www.ncsu.edu/sorc/myOrgs/index.php

I have some friends who are Campus Greens.

[Edited on June 19, 2006 at 11:45 PM. Reason : .]

6/19/2006 11:43:40 PM

I'm telling you people.

2012.

50 million Mayans can't be wrong.

6/19/2006 11:52:10 PM

So I only have 6 years to live? Shucks.

6/20/2006 12:12:08 AM

Not necessarily. But time IS cyclical and that's when we hit creation again.

Wear a rain coat.

6/20/2006 12:20:12 AM

I hope I get reincarnated as a mayfly.

6/20/2006 12:24:20 AM

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"inconsistent with your #2 point"

no its NOT inconsistent with my #2 point

"global warming" does not refer to temperature rise...it specifically refers to anthropomorphic temperature rises due to CO2 which is unprovable

just because we see temperatures going up over 25 years, some scientists think they can somehow understand 2.5 billion years worth of weather and global cycles and trends

seems pretty cocky and foolish to me....whereas scientists who are uncertain about global warming...the scientists that follow the scientific method and dont jump to false conclusions...the ones who know theres not enough evidence to correlate manmade emissions to global temperature increases without factoring in other things...the ones who arent dumb enough to believe "there was a big hurricane, thats definitive proof of global warming"...the scientists who trust data and not liberal media rhetoric

6/20/2006 9:27:55 AM

global warming
n.

An increase in the average temperature of the earth's atmosphere, especially a sustained increase sufficient to cause climatic change.

6/20/2006 9:30:30 AM

whats that from, dictionary.com? hey go ask martha stewart the definition of a catalytic converter or ask lil wayne to explain to you the rules of hockey

6/20/2006 9:32:17 AM

MANBEARPIG!

6/20/2006 11:06:20 AM

"Global warming refers to the increases in the average temperature of the Earth's atmosphere and oceans in recent decades."

WIKI'D.

6/20/2006 11:08:06 AM

^at least that says "in recent decades"

the point i'm trying to make is when the scientific community refers to global warming, they are not taking it to the simplest level of global warming = temperatures getting warmer around the globe...more specifically, its recent temperature changes attributed to manmade CO2 emissions

i'm not trolling here...but the definition isnt as literal as it sounds

6/20/2006 11:12:49 AM

I'm saying I disagree.
Global warming refers to just that. A rise in the mean temperatures of the globe over the past however many years. I'm no scientist, but I've read plenty of articles that discuss the possible causes of global warming. If "global warming" meant "a rise in the mean temperature of the earth due to human causes", then a discussion on the long-term geological causes of global warming would be meaningless.

For what it's worth, Al Gore's site says this:

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"The vast majority of scientists agree that global warming is real, it’s already happening and that it is the result of our activities and not a natural occurrence. The evidence is overwhelming and undeniable."

Whether you agree with the statement or not, what it implies is that global warming is not necessarily the product of human activities.

6/20/2006 11:18:29 AM