marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
6/27/2006 8:54:07 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
6/27/2006 9:23:13 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
what, like at a party? 6/27/2006 9:29:30 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Palestinian factions agree to recognize Israel
But soldier's kidnapping, internal bickering foster doubts
Tuesday, June 27, 2006; Posted: 9:02 a.m. EDT (13:02 GMT)
GAZA CITY (AP) -- The rival Hamas and Fatah movements on Tuesday completed an agreement over a plan that implicitly recognizes Israel, ending weeks of acrimonious negotiations, a top official said.
"We have an agreement over the document," said Ibrahim Abu Najah, coordination of the "national dialogue" over the proposal.
Salah Zeidan, another negotiator, said preparations were being made for a formal signing ceremony. "All political groups are prepared for a mutual cease-fire with Israel," he said.
President Mahmoud Abbas of Fatah has been trying to coax his Hamas rivals into endorsing the document, which was formulated by senior Palestinian prisoners held by Israel.
He has endorsed the plan as a way to end crippling economic sanctions against the Hamas-led Palestinian government and pave the way to reopening peace talks.
However, the deal was overshadowed by a crisis over the kidnapping of an Israeli soldier and opposition to the deal voiced by Islamic Jihad, a small militant group that has carried out numerous attacks against Israel.
"In today's meeting, we announced we reject some of the articles of this document and we have reservations about other articles," said Khaled al-Batch, spokesman for Islamic Jihad.
The plan calls for a Palestinian state alongside Israel, in effect recognizing Israel. It also calls on militants to limit attacks to areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast War and calls for formation of a coalition Palestinian government.
Hamas and Fatah have been locked in a bloody power struggle since Hamas won legislative elections in January. Hamas controls the parliament and Cabinet. Abbas, a political moderate, was elected separately last year.
Israel has said the document is an internal Palestinian matter, but said it falls short of international demands that Hamas renounce violence and formally recognize the Jewish state.
With Hamas-linked militants holding a captured Israeli soldier, the Palestinian agreement is even less likely to reduce tensions. Israel has massed troops along its border with Gaza, promising a broad offensive into the area." |
6/27/2006 9:46:08 AM |
RedGuard All American 5596 Posts user info edit post |
Between having Palestine being strangled to death by the international community and Israel lining up its military on the border, ready to flatten the Gaza Strip to find that soldier, I imagine that Hamas is probably a little bit more open to compromise at this point... 6/27/2006 11:38:41 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think there's a stick of dynamite instead of a carrot dangling from the end of the stick at this point 6/27/2006 11:54:38 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
this happening is a good thing 6/27/2006 12:49:13 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
GAZA ACTION
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html
6/27/2006 3:53:01 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
IDF: Troops entering Gaza
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/meast/06/27/israel.soldier/index.html
6/27/2006 8:00:59 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
Hamas today said that they do not recognize Israel's right to exist and never made those claims. 6/27/2006 8:52:04 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
6/28/2006 7:35:24 AM |
bigun60 All American 1069 Posts user info edit post |
Once they recognize israel, they can have a formally outlined War, instead of just being considered a bunch of terrorists by the rest of the world..
[Edited on June 28, 2006 at 11:55 AM. Reason : .] 6/28/2006 11:54:57 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Haha conventional warfare with Israel?
If any arab nation could do this, would they resort to terrorism?
They'd get their dicks dragged through the dirt. 6/28/2006 11:56:51 AM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
once they have a formally outlined war, they will be embarrassed by Israel, instead of being empathized with the rest of the world. 6/28/2006 11:57:57 AM |
drunknloaded Suspended 147487 Posts user info edit post |
i dont get why we took over israel when we coulda took over somewhere like iran and had cheap ass gas our whole life 6/28/2006 12:03:26 PM |
Crazywade All American 4918 Posts user info edit post |
Iran is anti-anything foreign. The only thing that unites them (besides religion, and that is even split down the sides) is an invasion from a foreign force.
See Afghanistan as an historical example. Many tribes and rough terrain. Sedendary people always get invaded in that country. The real population stays on the move and fight each other until they come together to expel a common enemy 6/28/2006 12:18:03 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
The Associated Press reports Palestinian security personnel and Egyptians are trying to prevent people from pushing through a hole in a fence blown open when militants detonated a land mine along the Egypt-Gaza border. 6/29/2006 8:01:03 AM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
aha
the israeli's flew several jets over al-assad's summer palace in syria and there wasn't shit the syrians could do about it
AHA 6/29/2006 8:59:17 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
^ In fact, that's so damn funny it inspired me to make a comic about it
6/29/2006 9:49:17 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
ROBOT HOOOOUSSSSEEEEEEE!!! 6/29/2006 9:52:58 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
^^that would be even better if you had used syrian people instead of lebanese 6/29/2006 11:11:30 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
i realize they're lebanese, but i'm too lazy to look past page one on a google image search
if we're going to get pedantic and unfunny, we can also point out that they didn't fly over a rally either 6/29/2006 11:15:14 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
well no that your cartoon which is fine
but it is kinda stupid to claim syria when everyone is waving lebanese flags
i like your general idea and marko's response makes it even better, but the flags thing is just lazy
lazy i tells ya 6/29/2006 11:18:41 AM |
Mr. Joshua Swimfanfan 43948 Posts user info edit post |
I still hold out some hope that Fatah and Hamas will merge and become Fatas, and then never understand why English speakers laugh at them. 6/29/2006 11:20:04 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "but it is kinda stupid to claim syria when everyone is waving lebanese flags" |
it's a pro-syrian rally
BETCHA DIDNT KNOW THAT6/29/2006 11:21:02 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
i hate you with the fury of a thousand living chainsaws
6/29/2006 11:27:14 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it's a pro-syrian rally
BETCHA DIDNT KNOW THAT" |
actually it's an anti-syrian rally
but thanks for coming out
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 11:38 AM. Reason : and thanks for changing the pic for me]6/29/2006 11:37:39 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
gdi edomite lies 6/29/2006 11:39:30 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
trumped 6/29/2006 11:40:57 AM |
McDanger All American 18835 Posts user info edit post |
but i looked up pro-syrian on GIS 6/29/2006 11:44:59 AM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
sorry gis lied to you
you should sue
for $texas 6/29/2006 11:55:07 AM |
ssjamind All American 30102 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i dont get why we took over israel when we coulda took over somewhere like iran and had cheap ass gas our whole life" |
The Book of Revelations6/29/2006 11:55:25 AM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
s
6/29/2006 12:16:29 PM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
ROBOT HOOOOOOUSSSSSEEEEEEEEE 6/29/2006 12:39:48 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "the israeli's flew several jets over al-assad's summer palace in syria and there wasn't shit the syrians could do about it" |
of course it is because of this that the majority of muslims and arabs hate israel and america.
the idiot ahmedinejad talks some shit, and bush and sharon come out and threaten airstrikes and war.
but, israel has a free hand to violate a sovereign nation's airspace for no reason at all, and that's ok. imagine if an arab country did that. or imagine the fury if it happened to the US.
but israel, they can do whatever they want.
they have destroyed the central power station in gaza, and fuel supply lines. the city is in darkness, and water and sewage will be cut in a couple of days because of power and fuel stations having been destroyed. that's specifically against the geneva conventions. oh, but it is israel, so that is ok.
of course, in response, some idiots are going to say, but look at the palestinian militants, they don't care about the conventions, so why should the israelis/americans?
but that's the whole essence of the thing. the terrorists, whether they are palestinian, taliban, al-qaeda, or whatever, are seen as terrorists. but america and israel, they have to decide, whether they are sovereign democratic countries, or terrorist combatants.
of course, all their retaliatory actions point to them being just the same as the terrorists.6/29/2006 6:53:14 PM |
pwrstrkdf250 Suspended 60006 Posts user info edit post |
well it's probably cause they didn't recognize
sucks to be over there and not a jew 6/29/2006 7:26:33 PM |
smcrawff Suspended 1371 Posts user info edit post |
GOD DAMN YOU ISRAEL FOR YOUR UNPROVOCED ACTIONS 6/29/2006 7:28:14 PM |
mathman All American 1631 Posts user info edit post |
^^^ sure we cut off the heads of our enemies and parade their naked carcasses through the streets all the time. It's always out goal to inflict maximal civilian casualities, that's the goal of all our military operations.
[Edited on June 29, 2006 at 7:29 PM. Reason : slow typing I do.] 6/29/2006 7:28:49 PM |
Republican18 All American 16575 Posts user info edit post |
WAR....HUH...GOOD GOD YALL.........WHAT IS IT GOOD FOR 6/29/2006 9:11:59 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.localnewswatch.com/skyvalley/stories/index.php?action=fullnews&id=198910
Quote : | "but, israel has a free hand to violate a sovereign nation's airspace for no reason at all, and that's ok." |
From the article:
Quote : | "Israeli warplanes also buzzed the summer home of Syria ‘s president, Bashar Assad, who harbors the hard-line Hamas leaders who Israel says ordered the kidnapping." |
That's probably their reasoning.6/29/2006 9:16:11 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37695 Posts user info edit post |
i dont see how this conflict can be perpetrated by guys with hilarious beards like this one
6/30/2006 7:02:16 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Israel last night threatened to assassinate Palestinian Prime Minister Ismael Haniyeh if Hamas militants did not release a captured Israeli soldier unharmed. 7/1/2006 10:37:20 AM |
Lowjack All American 10491 Posts user info edit post |
Israel is a great example of how to deal with insurgencies. They've been doing so well for the past 50 years. 7/1/2006 2:34:36 PM |
babzi All American 1696 Posts user info edit post |
^ well said. 7/2/2006 1:24:54 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
Palestinian militants holding an Israeli soldier captive have set a deadline for Israel to begin releasing Palestinian prisoners. A statement from the groups said: "We are giving the Zionist enemy until tomorrow, July 4th, at 6:00 a.m. (11 p.m. EDT Monday.) If they do not answer our humanitarian demands, the enemy will be responsible for all future consequences." 7/3/2006 7:24:27 AM |
trikk311 All American 2793 Posts user info edit post |
those people must be insane....if they kill that soldier...soooo maybe palestinians will die...this whole situation is lame 7/3/2006 8:31:33 AM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
^ Very true! As soon as that guy is killed, the bulldozers are going to fucking erase any sign of rebuilding that was happening in Gaza, to say nothing of what they'll do with their tanks and artillery units. Many people will die as a result, probably including many people behind the Hamas leadership (including the prime minister who they threatened to assassinate once).
On both sides, there are people who don't give any sort of damn about the people who will die. Just as long as they make it look like they could justify it to their followers and maybe make everyone who died look like martyrs in the meantime, they'll perceive it as a "win" for their side. 7/3/2006 10:34:01 AM |
marko Tom Joad 72828 Posts user info edit post |
GAZA (Reuters) - Israel warned the governing Palestinian faction Hamas that the "sky will fall on them" if they harm a captured soldier after a deadline passed on Tuesday for the Jewish state to accept a prisoner exchange. 7/4/2006 4:56:06 PM |
Mindstorm All American 15858 Posts user info edit post |
And nothing happens? 7/5/2006 7:46:53 PM |
30thAnnZ Suspended 31803 Posts user info edit post |
the calm before the storm 7/5/2006 9:22:04 PM |