Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Okay, first off im not going to be the one to say I TOLD YOU SO because thats not in my genetic make-up. It was a spectacular win, the most exciting game I ever watched live and I was very impressed with MY team. I knew they could do it. They did it. We're in great shape.
We did exactly what I thought we would do. Pound the ball, use the play action to create space, and force them to play "wolfpack ball". Our lines Off and Def deserve much credit, b/c they totally man handled BC. Some of you "good fans" forcasted a lose, but i won't comment on that. BC, FSU, Gt, Clm, that strikes one off the list. And now I know for a fact we can keep on striking.
Florida State; we can beat them. They can't run the ball at all. Stop the pass = we victor Gt; Stop C. Johnson = we victor,lol Clemson; well, if BC beat them + we crushed BC = we victor
This will fulfill my prophecy of being ACC champions, after many of you turned your backs in shame.
Now, that said. In my last thread I was presented with a question "what do we do when they load 8 defenders in the box against us". Its very simple, the answer. Other than the play action pass, we've discovered our own method of dealing with this
Yes, the power sweep worked wonders against BC when they loaded the 8 defenders in the box. We blocked downward, Andre made his reads at high caliber speed, then wham bam thank you maa'm he was ghost form for 55 yards. There is just no stopping him. He looked like Terrell Davis in his prime.
This is the only thing that worries me a little with FSU. Their 4-3 run defense in insane this year. Ive studied what they do and learned how they disquise their coverages so well. That free saftey in my diagram is gonna be reading those pulling tackles we have, and is going to be all over top of us.
They do alot more stunt blitzes this year, but your going to have to give me more time to draw it up. Im studying film right now, inbetween writing a philo paper due tomorrow. But since im a real die hard packer, watching film is my priority. 9/27/2006 7:39:03 PM |
Panthro All American 7333 Posts user info edit post |
STFU, n00b 9/27/2006 7:39:37 PM |
Konami All American 10855 Posts user info edit post |
suspend 9/27/2006 7:41:20 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
I don't think I would go that far...
It was a good win, and although I predicted a loss, I am not upset in the slightest to be wrong.
I still don't see us as ACC champs, and I don't think anyone does.
Once again, if we are ACC champs, you can gloat and say I told you so all you want, most of us will be too hapy to care.9/27/2006 7:43:10 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
i need a picture of the new carter finley 9/27/2006 7:43:45 PM |
pttyndal WINGS!!!!! 35217 Posts user info edit post |
I need some of what you've been smoking. 9/27/2006 7:45:13 PM |
TaterSalad All American 6256 Posts user info edit post |
^^from, like a game? Or with empty seats?
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 7:45 PM. Reason : ^] 9/27/2006 7:45:17 PM |
PackGuitar All American 6059 Posts user info edit post |
^nvm but thanks for asking... i just figured out how to use "search" 9/27/2006 7:46:01 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
we dominated BC! They could not run. They managed to squeak in a couple of pass plays here and there. 2nd half, it was 3 and out for them. How was that difficult for you to visualize? Its going to be that much easier against fsu. 9/27/2006 7:52:56 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
the trap play amato runs works every year against fsu. he knows that d too well. now that nicholsons gone andre and toney should have a parade next thursday. fsus wr-like running backs won't do much. our 2ndary will keep them in check.
if evans can convert a few passes here and there and not make any big mistakes the game is ours to lose(we have to fuckup to lose) 9/27/2006 7:53:24 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
we victor 9/27/2006 8:02:55 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It was a good win, and although I predicted a loss, I am not upset in the slightest to be wrong.
I still don't see us as ACC champs, and I don't think anyone does." |
Do you understand that this is the very pessimism im faced with everytime I post up here against these nc state fans? Geez, i really wish someone would explain to me why this is so?!?!9/27/2006 8:03:45 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Earl, before you act like you are the man, remember that you defended Marcus Stone right up until he was benched, hell even after he was benched
THE ANSWER ISN'T A NEW QB, THE ANSWER IS TO DESIGN AN ENTIRELY NEW PLAYBOOK TO FIT MARCUS'S TUNNEL VISION, RUN FIRST PASS SECOND STYLE.
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:07 PM. Reason : FDH] 9/27/2006 8:04:02 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
because they are fake fans 9/27/2006 8:07:47 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "remember that you defended Marcus Stone OUR TEAM right up until he was benched, hell even after he was benched we won the game and will continue to do so all season long, and never I mean never turn my back on them" |
Hey there dude!!! I never said a new playbook. If you're gonna lie and place words in my mouth, then you have no business up here. And im gonna ask you nicely to leave.
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:10 PM. Reason : .]9/27/2006 8:08:52 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
yes, if you don't say NCSU will win the ACC championship BY GOD YOU ARE NOT A TRUE NCSU FAN. 9/27/2006 8:09:17 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Tunnel vision vs. laser vision.
DISCUSS 9/27/2006 8:09:48 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
^^^that makes no sense.
when I showed disappointment in marcus stone's multiple subpar performances you defended the hell out of him.
and don't even try to say you didn't
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:10 PM. Reason : `UJ] 9/27/2006 8:10:43 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Ofcourse I defend M. Stone. And I will continue to do so, whats your point? They are both good qb's, but evans has a weaker arm. No one would disagree with me on that.
Before the season is over, we will go back to Stone.
but you totally lied on me. I never said create a new playbook. Please don't lie on me.
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:14 PM. Reason : .] 9/27/2006 8:13:05 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "yes, if you don't say NCSU will win the ACC championship BY GOD YOU ARE NOT A TRUE NCSU FAN.
" |
no but if you say we have absolutly no chance 0 games into teh season with a talented team then you aren't9/27/2006 8:13:31 PM |
statefan24 All American 9157 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Ofcourse I defend M. Stone. And I will continue to do so, whats your point? They are both good qb's, but evans has a weaker arm. No one would disagree with me on that.
Before the season is over, we will go back to Stone." |
my point is you said "Replacing M. stone is not the answer."
we replaced him.
Evans made stone look like a high school quarterback.
we won our first real game of the whole season.
so why don't you tell me what the point is, you should be able to figure it out, big football guru man.
Quote : | "but you totally lied on me. I never said create a new playbook. Please don't lie on me." |
excuuuuse me, you just said call completely different plays to fit stone's (un)talent.
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:17 PM. Reason : fdsh]9/27/2006 8:15:27 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Evans might have a weaker arm, but Stone has a weaker brain. 9/27/2006 8:15:28 PM |
ballinlb All American 1412 Posts user info edit post |
so we are gonna win the acc championship but during the course of that will go back to marcus stone? please explain how this will happen...and dont say injury 9/27/2006 8:17:54 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Florida State is going to come at us tough. We got to isolate Buster Davis by getting pads on him every play. There running game is ineffective, but we must keep an eye on the screens. We can match up with every player on defense, so im not worried at all. We keep our turnover low, we victor easily.
Evans looks a little timid, so they're gonna intimidate him even more by multiple blitzes. He must maintain composure. However, all the pressure won't be one him due to our unstopable backfield
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:29 PM. Reason : .] 9/27/2006 8:29:38 PM |
jeffshelton All American 864 Posts user info edit post |
umm.. evans != timid, hence every fucking headline stating something about his "poise" 9/27/2006 8:34:32 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
He looks a little timid?
It was his first start for God's sake!
Anyway, as you can tell he got over it by the final drive. 9/27/2006 8:38:23 PM |
jbrick83 All American 23447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "We did exactly what I thought we would do. Pound the ball" |
We didn't pound the ball at all. We tried to...but got stuffed in the middle, then we ran it outside....but not nearly enough.
You don't know what the hell you're talking about.9/27/2006 8:43:31 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "He must maintain composure." |
You mean like your love bunny, Marcus "OMG A BLITZ TUCKANDRUN" Stone?9/27/2006 8:47:33 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
we pounded the ball very effectively ( both backs had ample yards)
use play actions like I said we would do
controlled the game with methodical runs. (if they stacked 8 everytime, ofcourse we didnt run up the middle all day. We mixed it up)
what are you talking about? But thats in the past. You guys were wrong man, face it. Lets move on to the next game for crying out loud.We looked stellar on defense, and BC is a well coached team. Penalties were low as ever.
FSU will not win. I can't see how. But I guess you guys will predict another lose for us????????
I honestly think most of you say that we won't winn the ACC for the heck of it. Because you really have no gorunds to support your claims!!
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 8:55 PM. Reason : what are your predictions?] 9/27/2006 8:51:07 PM |
vinylbandit All American 48079 Posts user info edit post |
I predit you'll never learn how to speak English, Marcus Stone will never get his old job back, and we'll fall one game short of winning our division, just for good measure. 9/27/2006 8:55:46 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "we dominated BC! They could not run." |
I'm sorry, but you obviously did not watch the game.
I was surprised that they quit going to the run because it was so damned effective.9/27/2006 8:58:05 PM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
breathe
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
breathe
and all this time I thought Tarheel was another word for faggot 9/27/2006 9:13:13 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
We held them to 340 something total yards, their rb had 100 even. Thats decent to me, wouldnt you think so?
Quote : | "and we'll fall one game short of winning our division, just for good measure." |
And Im an idiot for thinking that we would win it all (the acc). Terrible fan base, aint no doubting that! Even the carolina fans support their sorry tarheels more than we support or good team. And we're better.
AndyMac quotes; Quote : | "low scoring game
17-14
not sure which score is ours though" |
Play it safe. Go ahead an say what you really feel.
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 9:21 PM. Reason : .]9/27/2006 9:18:08 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Even the carolina fans support their sorry tarheels more than we support or good team." |
If by support you mean delusionally thinking this is "their year," perhaps
But if by support you mean actually going to the games and cheering for their team, then no way in hell9/27/2006 9:23:30 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
actually, he was 21 for 109, which is a little more than 5 yards a carry.
Not to mention Callender had 11 for 54, also close to 5 per carry.
So like I said, they never should have quit running, but I am damn glad they did. Our run D is pathetic. It takes 3, 4, or 5 missed tackles before we can get the guy unless Tank works his magic through the line. 9/27/2006 9:23:43 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
You shouldn't be swayed by the mathematical aspects of it. Alot of their plays were stopped in the backfield. They sprung a couple here and there, but if you watched the game you would understand me.
FSUs' run blocking is terrible. We're gonna chew that up like toothpaste. I'd say that we have arguably the best pass defense in our conf. Our answer, like I mentioned before in previous threads lies in our Run game. No one can stop it. And I mean no one. 9/27/2006 9:35:07 PM |
bumpintahoe All American 2077 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 9:35 PM. Reason : .]
9/27/2006 9:35:29 PM |
ncsuftw1 BEAP BEAP 15126 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "It was a good win, and although I predicted a loss, I am not upset in the slightest to be wrong.
I still don't see us as ACC champs, and I don't think anyone does." |
thats not unreasonable at all earl.. we probably won't.. i hate to break it to you but we aren't the best team in the ACC.. sure we can beat anyone on any given day.. thats how the ACC works, but really we just aren't the best team in the acc that is consistant9/27/2006 9:38:08 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
hahaha, im not even reading this thread its so dumb 9/27/2006 9:38:38 PM |
Judgmentroll Suspended 77 Posts user info edit post |
who is the best team in the ACC? 9/27/2006 9:39:17 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 9:40 PM. Reason : f]
9/27/2006 9:40:09 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "who is the best team in the ACC?" |
Clemson, GT, and possibly VT (I haven't seen them play but people say they are good)9/27/2006 9:44:06 PM |
Earl Suspended 1374 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Florida State; we can beat them. They can't run the ball at all. Stop the pass = we victor Gt; Stop C. Johnson = we victor,lol Clemson; well, if BC beat them + we crushed BC = we victor " |
9/27/2006 9:48:49 PM |
AndyMac All American 31922 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Gt; Stop C. Johnson = we victor,lol" |
Ohhh, all we have to do is stop the best receiver in football and we win.
simple.
Quote : | "Clemson; well, if BC beat them + we crushed BC = we victor" |
Boston College lost to us, who lost to Akron, who lost to Central Michigan, who lost to Boston College.......
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 9:54 PM. Reason : wrong loss]9/27/2006 9:54:17 PM |
package2 All American 1450 Posts user info edit post |
JTBucky can u take that crap out? screws the whole page up 9/27/2006 10:21:05 PM |
padowack Suspended 1255 Posts user info edit post |
it might be too late for him to do so. 9/27/2006 10:29:50 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
well we did beat the same gt team last year. i dont know if vt is for real or not but we dont even play them so they are out of it. clemson kicked our shit in last year but that doesnt mean they will beat us (bc kicked our shit in too) and bc got better between the years clemson got worse. i really only see us losing 1 or 2 games so if we lose to the right people (non division contenders) we will win a tie break. hopefully bc can go beat everybody and coastal division can take the rest of the interdivision games. 9/27/2006 10:36:51 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "You shouldn't be swayed by the mathematical aspects of it. Alot of their plays were stopped in the backfield. They sprung a couple here and there, but if you watched the game you would understand me." |
They didn't spring a couple here and there, they had sustained and consistant running, that they for some reason chose not to continue, probably faith in Ryan which is understandable. Here are a few more stats for you though:
In the first half, only 3 running plays went for no gain, none for a loss. In the second half, only 1 running play went for no gain, and again, none for a loss.
where are all these running plays stopped in the backfield???
and just in case you want to go count for yourself, here is the link to the stats which include the play-by-play: http://www.gopack.com/downloads1/11544.htm?ATCLID=613131&SPID=3730&DB_OEM_ID=9200&SPSID=41956#GAME.PLY
I got more, here are our defensive stats:
NC State ## Player Solo Ast Tot TFL/Yds FF FR-Yd Intc BrUp Blkd Sack/Yds QH -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 42 Lowery, P........3.....7....10......0.5/0 . . . 1 . . . 5 Jones, E. 5 4 9 . . . . . . . . 52 Rumph, L.........2......6 ....8......0.5/1 . . . 1 . . . 25 Scott, M. 1 7 8 . . . . . . . . 19 Heath, G. 4 1 5 . . . . . . . . 8 Sutton, J. . 5 5 . . . 1-0 . . . . 72 Tyler, T...........2......2....4.......1.0/9 . . . . . 1.0/9 . 41 Brown, M..........3..........3......1.0/6 . . . . . 1.0/6 . 92 Pressley, D........2.....1....3......1.0/2 . . . . . 1.0/2 . 7 Morgan, Da. 2 1 3 . . . . . . . . 6 Neal, L. 1 2 3 . . . . . . . . 20 Davis, R. . 3 3 . . . . . . . 1 95 Martin, J. . 3 3 . . . . . . . . 30 Gray, J. 2 . 2 . . . . 1 . . . 33 Brooks, R. 1 1 2 . . . . 1 . . 1 97 Young, W. 1 1 2 . . . . . . . . 3 Davis, A.J. 1 1 2 . . . . 2 . . . TM TEAM 1 . 1 . . . . . . . . 46 Bedics, P. 1 . 1 . . . . . . . . 80 Bowens, D. 1 . 1 . . . . . . . . 48 Vogt, A. . 1 1 . . . . . . . . 14 Neal, J.C. . . . . . . . . . . 1
sorry that the alignment sucks, but the thing for you to take away is there were basically 4 tackles for a loss, not counting Lowery's half tackle for no loss. So again, where are all these phantom "stops in the backfield"??
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 10:52 PM. Reason : douchebag]
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 10:55 PM. Reason : still a douchebag]
[Edited on September 27, 2006 at 10:56 PM. Reason : ]9/27/2006 10:43:15 PM |
hcnguyen Suspended 4297 Posts user info edit post |
they looked like losses because bc made a new los about +2 yards every play. thats why they went for it on 4th at the end. 9/27/2006 10:59:31 PM |
ParksNrec All American 8742 Posts user info edit post |
look, I know you are asian and retarded and all that, but you are going to have to speak english. 9/27/2006 11:02:56 PM |