BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i need to punch up the look of my resume, anyone have any links to resumes that you find really appealing? 3/31/2007 5:30:05 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
i heard about this cool website that does, or that can at least find them. 3/31/2007 5:31:42 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
Use the templates that come with MS Word. Those are AWESOME
Have you checked the typical monster/careerbuilder/whatever websites? Typically they have some good examples. 3/31/2007 5:55:41 PM |
Walt Sobchak All American 1189 Posts user info edit post |
only thing i have heard that helps is to make your name bigger than the rest of the text in the resume so it stands out. but you probably already knew that 3/31/2007 6:11:32 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
i have a pretty solid two pager if you need one of those. it's been through sas hr critiques and all kinds of ncsu career center mess in the mba program. http://chris-moody.com/v2/library/Moody_Resume.pdf
i have a good format for one pagers too. if you want that pm me. 3/31/2007 9:30:40 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
^dude. there is no way i would wade through all that mess. not trying to be a jerk, you usually present yourself pretty well on here, i was expecting a more readable resume 3/31/2007 10:31:12 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
I agree. I would never have paragraphs written on a resume and the interests section at the end, come on.
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 10:48 PM. Reason : ] 3/31/2007 10:48:27 PM |
WOLFeatRAM All American 1900 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^dude. there is no way i would wade through all that mess. not trying to be a jerk, you usually present yourself pretty well on here, i was expecting a more readable resume" |
You would if you were hiring MBA candidates that demand ~$70k+ starting salary. When you are an MBA graduate, you already have the hiring managers attention and they will be reading more closely.
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 10:51 PM. Reason : .]3/31/2007 10:49:57 PM |
joe_schmoe All American 18758 Posts user info edit post |
two words:
CLIP ART 3/31/2007 10:51:42 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
^^no, i would trash it and move on to next MBA.
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 10:53 PM. Reason : MBAs are a dime a dozen] 3/31/2007 10:52:26 PM |
WOLFeatRAM All American 1900 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "^^no, i would trash it and move on to next MBA." |
I have had to hire several people for HP and when we screened candidates we usually spend the first 10-15 minutes asking them to clarify their resume, tell us what this company is, what exactly did you do, etc.
I agree, for an entry level of BA/BS job it would be too much, but not for a MBA SPC recipient.
Also, when companies are digging sites like monster and careerbuilder they might enter 10-15 key words that they are looking to match. If you are elaborate, having a resume like this might give your resume a better chance to match - but will not guarantee it.
Do include some of your out of work interests as MOODY has. I got a break because I listed I played college club sports in my resume
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 11:02 PM. Reason : also..]3/31/2007 10:57:38 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I got a break because I listed I played college club sports in my resume" |
wtf?3/31/2007 11:06:45 PM |
tdwhitlo All American 1347 Posts user info edit post |
put it on pink smelly good paper! :-) 3/31/2007 11:07:44 PM |
WOLFeatRAM All American 1900 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | ""I got a break because I listed I played college club sports in my resume"" |
Yes, despite what you might think, employers are looking to see that you are well-rounded, you are competitive, you like to win, and can be a leader. Extracurricular activities are a way to prove this and in my case was playing for a club sports team at NC State.
and to contribute to the OP - http://ceres.cals.ncsu.edu/career/site/public/index.cfm?pageID=23 I would email or call CALS CS and you can make a drop in appointment to have your resume reviewed.
Also, some of these might help: http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/templates/CT101043371033.aspx
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 11:14 PM. Reason : add]3/31/2007 11:11:42 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, but there is a big difference between that and blogging. 3/31/2007 11:13:15 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "I have had to hire several people for HP and when we screened candidates we usually spend the first 10-15 minutes asking them to clarify their resume, tell us what this company is, what exactly did you do, etc.
I agree, for an entry level of BA/BS job it would be too much, but not for a MBA SPC recipient.
Also, when companies are digging sites like monster and careerbuilder they might enter 10-15 key words that they are looking to match. If you are elaborate, having a resume like this might give your resume a better chance to match - but will not guarantee it.
Do include some of your out of work interests as MOODY has. I got a break because I listed I played college club sports in my resume" |
that's pretty accurate. for most of the jobs i applied for, a one page resume would be thrown out unless it had darn good experience at the get go. i include lots of info for SAS because it's usually a 20 minute discussion topic in interviews because everyone wants to know their best practices and how i was selected since it's pretty tough to get in the door. the key thing is to customize your resume every time you send it out and you have to hit the buzz words for the big companies that use software to weed through them.
if you don't have much experience...i'd stick to a one pager. now my resume is more of a formality than anything else because i've accepted an offer and just keep up with it for the future. if you're going for a job making $70k+...i would recommend showing your strengths on your resume and not reducing things to one page.
also, the interest section is what some employers read first to see who you are. it's actually one of the reasons i got in the door at sas...that was the first thing they read and saw that i had experience in haiti...it just so happened that everyone hired had international experience. and there are lots of things on a resume that are personal preference, but i've had LOTS of success with that resume (i actually just accepted a contract job yesterday without an in person interview thanks to my resume and portfolio).3/31/2007 11:50:01 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Just to comment on Moody's post.
That isn't a resume, it's a CV. Most americans don't seem to know the difference (I know I sure as hell didn't until a year or two ago) but the rest of the world works with both.
My CV is like 4 pages now, but I try to keep my specific resumes to one page and under a two minute read.
^All very good advice. For a cold application, or one without a portfolio, definitely go with the CV and be specific to the job. I have now 4 or 5 resumes that are all industry or position specific. Can be a bitch to update every year or so, but it's completely worth it.
[Edited on March 31, 2007 at 11:55 PM. Reason : .] 3/31/2007 11:53:04 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
^good points...i confuse resume and cv a lot, but cv's are used 99% of the time in every country BUT the US (according to my international classmates) 3/31/2007 11:57:54 PM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
can you define CV and tell me what "CV" stands for?
i was reading cover letters and resumes for the vet i work for the other day and one applicant mentioned she attached her CV and I had no clue what she was talking about. 3/31/2007 11:59:48 PM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
curriculum vitae
also: cameron village, as in: CV what what!
a CV lists everything that you have done, starting from high school (or earlier). a resume is job specific, and hence, lists education/work/activities specific only to the job applying for.
[Edited on April 1, 2007 at 12:05 AM. Reason : LATIN: course of life] 4/1/2007 12:01:10 AM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " Resumes and C.V.s -- What's the Difference? By Peter Newfield, President, Career Resumes According to the dictionary, a resume is "a summary, as of one's employment, education, etc., used in applying for a new position." Conversely, a curriculum vitae (C.V.) is noted as "a regular or particular course of study of or pertaining to education and life."
In other words, a RESUME is a career and educational summary meant to highlight your skills and experience and a C.V. is a list meant to document every job and degree you've ever received in your life.
When professionals working abroad decide that they want to seek out job opportunities in the U.S. and send out their C.V.s to American companies, they have no idea what Human Resource and Personnel Directors are looking for when reviewing these documents. In a typical C.V., the first category is Education, listing preparatory/college/university information and dates right up front. If the mechanical engineer or CEO sending this document graduated from university in 1974, that is not the most important piece of information that a headhunter or HR Director needs to know about this person.
The C.V. continues with Work Experience, often listing jobs going back to college days, and often listing them in chronological order (starting with 1976 for example, and ending with the 1997-Present position somewhere down on page 2 or 3). The C.V. is quite simply a listing of company names, job titles, dates of employment, and job responsibilities. Just the potatoes, without the meat and gravy, so to speak. A professional resume, on the other hand, does not require that you include every job you've ever held since being a counselor at Camp Thanksalot.
The C.V. is written in a paragraph style, not broken up with bulleted or italicized information to highlight any skills, accomplishments, or achievements for each specific position like a resume. Each paragraph lists the responsibilities from a first person perspective "I" and "my" - which is just not done in a professional resume. On this side of the Atlantic, a resume is written in the third person so as to appear more objective and factual.
The next faux pas of the C.V. is to include personal information in the document. The applicant lists marital status, nationality, height and weight, date of birth, and other information which is just not necessary or warranted when applying for a job in the U.S. Hobbies and Personal Interests are also often listed on C.V.s. But whether you play acoustic guitar or spin wool for cardigan sweaters, it does not belong on a resume.
A strong, professionally written resume, however, starts out with a brief Summary of Qualifications, next is a key word section listing your Areas of Strength or Industry Expertise, then Professional Experience where your career experience for the past ten to fifteen years is focused on and any experience prior to that may be summarized. The information listed under Professional Experience is written in reverse chronological order (most recent or present job first and going back from there) and includes a balance of responsibilities and accomplishments for each position.
After the work experience, Professional Affiliations, Computer Skills, and Education sections should appear. The best strong, to-the-point resumes should be one to two pages. Conversely, oftentimes C.V.s go on for three or four pages.
Keep in mind that resumes are intended to present a summary of highlights to allow the prospective employer to scan through the document visually or electronically and see if your skills match their available positions. A good resume can do that very effectively -- a C.V. cannot." |
from careerbuilder4/1/2007 12:06:42 AM |
elise mainly potato 13090 Posts user info edit post |
thanks!
speedy and informative, i never would have expected it
also, no rude comments (yet) 4/1/2007 12:08:30 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "But whether you play acoustic guitar or spin wool for cardigan sweaters, it does not belong on a resume. " |
WRONG.4/1/2007 12:11:09 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^I think some people DO need to be a little bit more selective about the interests they put on their resumes.
Just to let people see the difference between a CV and resume, as well as an example (although definitely not any amazing) for a professional portfolio, here's the ones I used to apply to Google in the fall. Got me through to interviews from a generic monster.com job posting, so apparently they liked something about it.
http://www.ncsuroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/tyler-gibson-resume.pdf http://www.ncsuroot.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/portfolio-interface-design-april-2007.pdf 4/1/2007 12:21:26 AM |
0EPII1 All American 42541 Posts user info edit post |
^ true.
looked at your resume... very nice.
you need to add Vista to the competencies at the bottom 4/1/2007 12:33:04 AM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
if you don't have solid work experience, interests and hobbies are good filler 4/1/2007 8:38:02 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i think i'm alright from a content standpoint, i just meant visually appealing
something that'll make it stand out in a good way without compromising how easy it is to read 4/1/2007 8:57:59 PM |
roddy All American 25834 Posts user info edit post |
Moody's resume is too wordy....HR person probably will have 100 resumes, do they really want to read a short story? Get to the point...hell, when you are 40, yours will rival Mary Ann Foxes in length 4/1/2007 9:06:23 PM |
moron All American 34142 Posts user info edit post |
^^ noen's design is very good. It's clean, he's using an easy to read font (something people often look over), and it's spaced out well, with subtle but effective use of a graphic.
[Edited on April 1, 2007 at 9:09 PM. Reason : ] 4/1/2007 9:08:58 PM |
brianj320 All American 9166 Posts user info edit post |
print ur resume on paper with naked chicks all over it 4/1/2007 9:13:54 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
there is a difference between a resume that gets you here:
and here:
if you're looking for a design/technical job...keep it short and sweet (Noen gave you a great example for one of those), but if you're targeting a c-level job...you'll want details and quantified accomplishments. two of the executives i interviewed for our vp of manufacturing position had resumes/cv's in excess of 4 pages.
any applicant should be able to determine which works best for each application/company. have a one page version, and a detailed version that will each be tweaked a little for EVERY DIFFERENT APPLICATION. 4/1/2007 9:22:09 PM |
Gonzo18 All American 2240 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "if you're targeting a c-level job" |
If a recent college grad is targeting a c-level job, then I think their expectations are a little high.4/1/2007 9:27:12 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
which one is your office? 4/1/2007 10:03:45 PM |
synchrony7 All American 4462 Posts user info edit post |
So when you say your interests include "contributing to online communities" you mean posting on Tdub right? Just kidding man, all in good fun.
Seriously though, I would have thought that hobbies and interests had no place on a resume but sometimes they help you make a personal connection with interviewers or managers that have similar interests. Also it might lead them to think of you for particular assignments that are somehow related to your interests. 4/3/2007 12:57:05 PM |
MOODY All American 9700 Posts user info edit post |
more http://www.dailypharmacist.com and http://www.moviesbythor.com and stuff like that. it was a big deal when i was at sas because i was targeting a position building online communities with sas americas and other global units...
[Edited on April 3, 2007 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .] 4/3/2007 1:19:31 PM |
Graham1 Veteran 167 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.craigslist.org/about/best/wdc/291196665.html
Made me laugh a bit.... 4/3/2007 4:38:51 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^excellent dude, A++, would read again 4/3/2007 4:45:15 PM |
plaisted7 Veteran 499 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Do you hate my eyes? Because why else would you put your resume in 8pt. font? The blocks of unbroken texts are not helping you, either. You know what? I'm tossing this one already, and I'm only three lines into it. " |
4/3/2007 4:55:20 PM |
CaelNCSU All American 7082 Posts user info edit post |
What's the difference between a head hunter and a prostitute....
The prostitute is honest. 4/3/2007 6:21:49 PM |
gephelps All American 2369 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/SortingResumes.html
Long, but worth a read along with his other pages. 4/4/2007 4:43:18 AM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i think i'll pay around in photoshop and see if i can come up with something i can duplicate in Word 4/4/2007 7:14:11 PM |
joe17669 All American 22728 Posts user info edit post |
I have to maintain a CV It's almost 2 pages 4/4/2007 7:32:10 PM |
Jenniferyan Veteran 355 Posts user info edit post |
me too - sucks. 4/4/2007 8:10:39 PM |
qntmfred retired 40726 Posts user info edit post |
what do you guys think about putting references on a resume? if i were to do that, all my references would be with my current company, and i don't really want them to get calls or know that i'm looking for a new job 4/5/2007 1:51:00 PM |
toemoss All American 2950 Posts user info edit post |
yeah.. i just put references by request.. 4/5/2007 2:01:12 PM |
David0603 All American 12764 Posts user info edit post |
But isn't that kind of a given? 4/5/2007 2:13:00 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
i assume it's a given 4/5/2007 2:19:17 PM |
God All American 28747 Posts user info edit post |
Someone help me find a full time job for the love of all that is holy. I can't find much of anything and the ones that I do find, no one calls me back. 4/5/2007 2:36:43 PM |
1 All American 2599 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "which one is your office?" |
4/5/2007 2:52:07 PM |
redburn All American 713 Posts user info edit post |
Most places will tell you which they want. Academic jobs require a special form of CV - education, thesis and dissertation topics, committees, academic service, publications, conference presentations, courses taught, research interests, and professional memberships. You might be surprised at the length of some of your professors' vitae. I made a website for a graduate program director whose publication list was about four pages long. I saw another, from a guy who can't be over fifty, who's published fifteen books and seventy academic articles since beginning graduate school. 4/5/2007 2:57:02 PM |