rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Let it be known right here who you'd take if you had the #1.
For me... its Durant all day.
No question.
Ultimately, I want the guy who has the killer instinct because he's the guy thats more likely to win a championship.
A guy like Oden reminds me of Alonzo Mourning or Patrick Ewing. Great center that will be ultra consistent in the regular season but come playoff time he cant CARRY a team on his back like MJ, Lebron, etc
Durant is just a better basketball player, more marketable, and too unique to pass up.
And if youre Portland, you're crazy if you pass on Durant.
Jack, Roy, Durant, Randolph, Aldridge.
You'd feel comfortable about betting against them in the postseason ~4 years from now?
Really?
[Edited on June 22, 2007 at 7:16 PM. Reason : a] 6/22/2007 7:12:05 PM |
Yoshiemaster Suspended 9388 Posts user info edit post |
Durant 6/22/2007 7:14:12 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Im going to say go defense and take Oden.
Move Aldridge to the 4 spot and have Oden in the middle.
Jack, Roy, Randolph, Aldridge, Oden. That might not work but Randolph would still bring back a good SF in return. 6/22/2007 7:52:37 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Oden all day baby
he still has yet to show what he can do with a completely healed hand as he was still sore on it in the tourney.
kid is too big, too strong and too gifted to not be your choice...these type of players dont come along everyday...not to mention if you can get him AND his PG in a package good lord...
Durant to me is too weak, he may have the instinct but I dont think he has the size and power of a MJ/Lebron or Even the finesse of a Kobe.
sure hes a good player and solid #2 but you cant pass up on the big man, especially since hes the only true solid center to come out in a long long time. 6/22/2007 7:52:43 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i think Oden really gets an unfair rap about not caring about basketball or being too mild-mannered. i think it is refreshing for a change to see someone with his ability just go about his business and play ball. the kid is going to be absolutely dominant....and we've only seen a FRACTION of his potential.
i love Durant but Oden #1 hands down. 6/22/2007 8:11:19 PM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
I don't see any way you don't take Oden.
Big time big men are much harder to come by than solid 3s. 6/22/2007 8:19:34 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
don't sleep on alando tucker 6/22/2007 8:25:23 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i'd definitely take tucker over durant or oden 6/22/2007 8:36:03 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think durant will be as good in the nba as he was in college. i think oden will be better than he was in college.
and i'm not sleeping on alando tucker 6/22/2007 8:44:39 PM |
GenghisJohn bonafide 10252 Posts user info edit post |
because he was TOTALLY SERIOUS 6/22/2007 8:45:06 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
don't sleep on tucker = take tucker #1 overall ???!!!?!?!?////11 6/22/2007 8:55:53 PM |
screentest All American 1955 Posts user info edit post |
The author of this thread is a very big fan of Bill Simmons. 6/22/2007 8:57:32 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37689 Posts user info edit post |
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/070622 6/22/2007 9:21:22 PM |
JCTarheel All American 2430 Posts user info edit post |
Michael Vick 6/22/2007 9:27:07 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
well i don't see tucker's fucking name in the thread title, so why are you mentioning him unless you think he's better than those 2 6/22/2007 9:36:51 PM |
Stein All American 19842 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "he still has yet to show what he can do with a completely healed hand as he was still sore on it in the tourney." |
Honestly, how long does it take to heal? Are we going to hear in 5 years that Oden would be absolutely awesome if his wrist would just heal?6/22/2007 10:02:52 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37689 Posts user info edit post |
its already healed. people have said he tore up his workouts 6/22/2007 10:10:37 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "well i don't see tucker's fucking name in the thread title, so why are you mentioning him unless you think he's better than those 2" |
don't try and mask your stupidity thxu6/22/2007 10:12:06 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
definitely durant 6/22/2007 11:30:14 PM |
Prawn Star All American 7643 Posts user info edit post |
6/23/2007 1:53:50 AM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Too bad he played for a Texas team that didn't run plays, didn't care about making stops and was coached by a guy who plays checkers when everyone else plays chess." |
hahahaha6/23/2007 2:16:12 AM |
markgoal All American 15996 Posts user info edit post |
^^Who's the chick grinding on that old guy? 6/23/2007 2:39:52 AM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
when greg oden does it, it's ok b/c he's a college kid.
when michael jordan does it...
6/23/2007 6:58:53 AM |
Saddamizer Suspended 5294 Posts user info edit post |
Great article about it... guy lists exhaustive lists of pros and cons for each player.
I still haven't decided who I'd take.
The fan in me says Durant.
I just wish Oden had been 100 percent healthy this past season so we could evaluate each of their season's at full strength, because Oden has supposedly shocked teams with how much more effective he is now than 4 months ago.
http://realgm.com/src_goaltending/123/20070621/making_the_case_for_the_durantula/
Oh and I do like the nickname "Durantula" as well]
[Edited on June 23, 2007 at 8:31 AM. Reason : x] 6/23/2007 8:16:41 AM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "don't try and mask your stupidity thxu" |
what the fuck are you talking about. you said something which appeared to be completely retarded and i called you on it, so now it's "i was kidding." eat a dick6/23/2007 10:09:15 AM |
tracer All American 13876 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i think it is refreshing for a change to see someone with his ability just go about his business and play ball. " |
yea cause its been a whole week since tim duncan's season finished
i'd say oden probably has the best chance of bein a force in the nba, but if i were the blazers, i'd probably take durant.6/23/2007 10:17:26 AM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
haha Durant already has a white Bentley, and he hasn't even been drafted yet. NIIIICE 6/23/2007 10:35:29 AM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Centers are way harder to get than PF"s. For that reason, it has to be Oden. 6/23/2007 12:21:23 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
what do PF's have to do with this discussion? 6/23/2007 12:46:23 PM |
packboozie All American 17452 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah I don't think the weakest player in the draft will be playing down low.
Durant is a SF/3 if ever there was one. 6/23/2007 12:51:09 PM |
ssclark Black and Proud 14179 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "
haha Durant already has a white Bentley, and he hasn't even been drafted yet. NIIIICE
" |
so?6/23/2007 1:13:04 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Sure Durant is a 3 now, but I think he has more future as a 4 once he gets some meat on his bones.
KG was a 3 coming out of HS as well, but of course you'd consider him a 4 now. 6/23/2007 1:46:17 PM |
rwoody Save TWW 37689 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "what the fuck are you talking about. you said something which appeared to be completely retarded and i called you on it, so now it's "i was kidding." eat a dick" |
of course he was fucking joking, good god. he mentioned alando tucker in a discussion about the top 2, if you can't recognize that as a joke, you are very very dense.6/23/2007 3:12:01 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
because no one on here has ever said anything retarded like that before. guess my interweb idiot radar is broken 6/23/2007 4:13:28 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
i mean are you serious ^...i said don't sleep on tucker, where in that statement did i say take tucker over oden or durant, use some common sense...you can't be that dumb, but if you would like to continue on like you "called someone out," then go right on ahead...but yes, i think tucker will have a brandon roy type season 6/23/2007 4:55:52 PM |
StingrayRush All American 14628 Posts user info edit post |
well OBVIOUSLY i misunderstood, but it was just randomly thrown in there without any prior mention or qualification, so logical deduction led me to believe you were comparing the three. sorry 6/23/2007 5:02:43 PM |
amac884 All American 25609 Posts user info edit post |
i will announce my intentions better next time...but, to get back on topic, give me oden every day of the week and twice on sundays 6/23/2007 5:03:58 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "The author of this thread is a very big fan of Bill Simmons." |
6/23/2007 5:13:38 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
i wouldn't be at all surprised if tucker had a better career than both of those guys. you still can't take him top 2 though, if for no other reason than b/c you'll be crucified a la the texans. 6/23/2007 6:56:08 PM |
TheOffice Suspended 2343 Posts user info edit post |
haha yeah. The Texans taking Mario #1 just might go down as one of the worst pics ever in the history of any draft. Especially since Young and Bush have turned out to do so well. Especially Young and coupled with the fact that the Texans released the guy that they kept instead of drafting Young because he was their so called "franchise QB" Then they release his ass less than a year later. Fucking hilarious. 6/23/2007 7:35:46 PM |
simonn best gottfriend 28968 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Bush have turned out to do so well" |
i'm holding my decision on that one.6/23/2007 10:55:28 PM |
ncsuREMY9 All American 1805 Posts user info edit post |
for the love of god please do not talk about williams/bush in here 6/23/2007 10:59:50 PM |
ncWOLFsu Gottfather FTL 12586 Posts user info edit post |
mario isn't a bust yet. and really i think the texans deserve the blame for most of his rookie season struggles. he still has plenty of time to justify his #1 pick status, but whether he will still remains to be seen. 6/24/2007 12:10:04 AM |
montclair All American 1372 Posts user info edit post |
wrist, is one of the worst and slowest healing injuries 6/24/2007 4:33:42 AM |
bigstatemain All American 736 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Sure Durant is a 3 now, but I think he has more future as a 4 once he gets some meat on his bones.
KG was a 3 coming out of HS as well, but of course you'd consider him a 4 now." |
KG was a 5 in HS and Durant cant even bench 185 so I honestly dont think he will ever be a 4, i could see a future 2
with that said your quote was the dumbest thing I have read in this thread6/24/2007 3:06:24 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Durant can play anything from SF, PF, C.... SG might be a stetch for him.
"Positions" don't really matter in the NBA
How can you say Durant can't play center but Boris Diaw and Al Harrigton can...
Bench press is basically meaningless in basketball. T-Mac said the other day that he couldn't bench press 185 when he got drafted. Bill Simmons mentioned the point that neither could Bird or Magic probably.
The bench press is simply not that important in sports... you aren't allowed to use a 2 handed shove in the NBA.
Besides the guy is black. Just because he can't bench 185 today doesn't mean he can't tomorrow. 6/24/2007 3:23:29 PM |
bigstatemain All American 736 Posts user info edit post |
ok so durant can guard Tim Duncan or Amare??? 6/24/2007 3:43:38 PM |
rallydurham Suspended 11317 Posts user info edit post |
Can Amare guard Durant?
I can count the number of people on one hand that can guard Tim Duncan...
Durant might not be a center RIGHT NOW but i think its stupid to say that Boris Diaw & Al Harrington can play center for teams who went to the West Finals and the West semis but that Durant can never be used as a center...
He's a freak of nature. He's got the skill of Dirk but the size of Garnett. This guy is going to be a megastar. 6/24/2007 3:53:34 PM |
twolfpack3 All American 2573 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "KG was a 5 in HS and Durant cant even bench 185 so I honestly dont think he will ever be a 4, i could see a future 2
with that said your quote was the dumbest thing I have read in this thread " |
Wow. You're a moron. Garnett was a stick coming out of HS (just like Durant) & only weighed 220. No one 220 lbs is a fucking center in the NBA. He was a SF/PF spec, just like Durant. And no way in hell Durant is a SG.
Garnett's specs coming out of HS - 6'11" 220 Durant's specs - 6'10" 225
I think Garnett developing into a pretty good PF even though he had a similar body.6/24/2007 3:56:13 PM |
mkcarter PLAY SO HARD 4369 Posts user info edit post |
Durant will never be a Center or SG 6/24/2007 4:35:14 PM |