Going to buy a new player, but not sure which format to go with. Anyone know of any universal players on the way?

10/14/2007 4:03:52 PM

neither, wait until the format wars settle down a bit

i'm putting my money on blu-ray

10/14/2007 4:07:31 PM

^ me too pretty much. Mebee waiting is the smart move. Nonetheless, is there any word of a universal player? I'd think Denon would be first to do it...

10/14/2007 4:14:46 PM

just buy one that plays both...i think they are like 500 bucks or something now

10/14/2007 4:33:28 PM

Uh, yeah...that was my question. So I suppose that means they do exist. Brand?

10/14/2007 4:37:46 PM

there are universal players...best buy carries them.

I've got my money on HD-DVD.

10/14/2007 4:43:18 PM

Lg made a combo that bestbuy may still have and samsung is coming out with a combo for somewhere between 500-800

10/14/2007 5:41:44 PM

yeah the LG combo has been out for a while now, its like $800

10/14/2007 5:43:45 PM

you can have both for less then that though... especially if you have an xbox

10/14/2007 5:57:09 PM

my money is on Blu-Ray winning. That's why I bought an HD DVD player. I've been collecting HD DVDs at around $10 apiece and I imagine they'll just get cheaper.

10/14/2007 5:57:31 PM

^^ Prefer to stay hi-fi. XBox is out.

Are there any BR or HDDVD players that also support SACD and DVDA?

10/14/2007 6:53:59 PM

There was a standards-fight for a while, and basically Blu-ray won out last spring. The thing that sold a lot of people was when Blockbuster announced they would be carrying Blu-ray and not HD-DVD.

http://www.eproductwars.com/dvd/index.cfm

10/14/2007 7:05:52 PM

^ except not.

10/14/2007 7:28:34 PM

yup only blockbuster will carry blu-ray. except the trail stores where they carried both blu-ray and hd-dvd and online. for the last time its not BLUE...its BLU!! get it straight

10/14/2007 7:43:32 PM

So....what about SACD and DVDA support?

10/14/2007 7:48:51 PM

"300" on Blu-Ray outsold the HD-DVD version 2:1 despite the lack of interactive features on the Blu-Ray version. HD-DVD's still in the fight and all, but Blu-Ray is still doing better overall it seems- and by a good margin.

^ From what I hear -philips ips01 might be one of the few blu-ray players that will (and it's going to be damn pricey since it's a recorder.)

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 7:55 PM. Reason : ]

10/14/2007 7:49:20 PM

def buy HDDVD
It has the words high definition in its name.
it must be good
sounds better also

10/14/2007 9:11:46 PM

This format war won't be over for at least another year. And by that I mean, there is going to movies coming out for both formats for the foreseeable future. On top of that, the standards haven't been finalized on either format and the players, in general, all suck shit. So whatever you buy now, you're going to be replacing in a year or so anyway, regardless of which format wins. So either get a DF player, or pick the one that has most movies you want to watch and buy the cheapest player for it you can find. With that said, the cards are still stacked in Blu-ray's favor, so if you want to go with the "winning" format, get Blu-ray.

10/14/2007 9:35:32 PM

^^^

i would be willing to wager that blueray sold more copies of 300 than the hddvd format did because 300 in hd is for rent on xbox live market place. in general xbox live market place has a lot of hd movies for rent. i don't know if the ps3 offers movies for rent yet. but in general, i don't think what you are saying holds any weight to weigh in on the format wars.

[Edited on October 14, 2007 at 9:48 PM. Reason : asdf]

10/14/2007 9:45:39 PM

Netflix carries both formats. Blockbuster is a thing of the past with their jewish late fee tactics.

10/14/2007 9:53:48 PM

300 also cost more in hd format because it had the sd content on the other side.

10/14/2007 11:11:18 PM

I wonder if Transformers will sell more copies on HD-DVD on Tuesday then on blue-ray....























....oh wait, PWNT!

10/14/2007 11:51:54 PM

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"Blockbuster is a thing of the past with their jewish late fee tactics."

Huh? They may soon be a thing of the past, but they don't do late fees anymore. And they adopted Netflix's mail-rental system, while giving the option of exchanging movies at a store for free.

10/15/2007 1:15:54 AM

^^^^For the record, ^is mostly right:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blockbuster_online#Elimination_of_late_fees

Quote :

"As of August 22, 2006, Blockbuster discontinued the rental-to-sale policy that had customers pay for the price of the movie minus the rental fee. Now, the rental fee will not be deducted from the sale. Customers may then return the item within 30 days after the automatic sale date to have this charge refunded, less a "restocking fee" of $1.25."

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 2:03 AM. Reason : Not being an advocate here, just sayin' ...]

10/15/2007 2:02:57 AM

can we get jew running blockbuster confirmation?

10/15/2007 2:34:38 AM

my mistake...its not a late fee...they just 're-check out' the movie every few days and then charge you $25 to buy it on top of that.

10/15/2007 8:17:59 AM

exactly

10/15/2007 11:06:12 AM

if you end up getting a blu-ray player, make sure it has an ethernet connection for firmware updates

10/15/2007 11:39:28 AM

so um.....ibtl?

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10/15/2007 12:14:09 PM

Quote :

"i would be willing to wager that blueray sold more copies of 300 than the hddvd format did because 300 in hd is for rent on xbox live market place"

yes, because it's obvious that people who want to BUY a movie to OWN it would much rather just RENT

10/15/2007 1:14:22 PM

hahaha just how ignorant are you

you mean to tell me that you really don't think that 300 in hd being for rent on xbox live market did not influence its sales?

god i hope you are only kidding.

10/15/2007 1:19:22 PM

well according to (one of) our very own Tech Talk God:

"If you bought a Blu-Ray, you're an idiot"


how well did THAT one work out???

10/15/2007 1:26:10 PM

most of you are arguing your point and getting all defensive because you bought into one particular format.

i havnt bought either but im pretty sure blu-ray wins out. those who think blockbuster is going out must be pretty clueless

10/15/2007 1:29:05 PM

well as a rule of thumb i do not bet on anything that competes with microsoft, in general. there are exceptions, but for the most part nothing has seemed to change my mind about this.

10/15/2007 1:29:48 PM

the 360 picked HD-DVD, but when the next console comes out are they required to pick it up again, or could they switch to Blu-Ray? when 360 came out blu-ray wasnt even on the market yet

10/15/2007 1:32:19 PM

i would think that ms thought this out and knew blu-ray was on the brink of release and decided to push forward with the hddvd format. i am sure ms is not a billion dollar company because it makes mistakes such as choosing the wrong hd format or not waiting for a better format to choose.

10/15/2007 1:39:16 PM

i would think that sony thought this out and knew blu-ray was on the brink of release and decided to push forward with the blu-ray format. i am sure sony is not a billion dollar company because it makes mistakes such as choosing the wrong hd format or not waiting for a better format to choose.

10/15/2007 1:49:32 PM

Uh, actually MS doesn't give a damn who wins the HD format war. They backed HD DVD for the same reason they entered the console war, to prevent Sony from taking over your living room with a device that didn't run a Microsoft operating system. At this point, their entire motivation is to keep the war going on long enough so that digital distribution of HD content matures to the point where it surpasses both formats.

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 1:52 PM. Reason : :]

10/15/2007 1:51:08 PM

yeah and i wonder who will win that

btw they are doing a good job of it, because i don't know sony anything and i don't plan on it either. not that sony stuff is bad, obviously not, just i like what i have and i am content with it.

[Edited on October 15, 2007 at 1:59 PM. Reason : zxdfg]

10/15/2007 1:58:07 PM

i would think that sony thought this out and knew beta was on the brink of release and decided to push forward with the beta format. i am sure sony is not a billion dollar company because it makes mistakes such as choosing the wrong cassette format or not waiting for a better format to choose.

10/15/2007 4:34:07 PM

i would think that sony thought this out and knew dvd was on the brink of release and decided to push forward with the dvd format. i am sure sony is not a billion dollar company because it makes mistakes such as choosing the wrong disc format or not waiting for a better format to choose.

10/15/2007 4:39:26 PM

I have a bluray player. I love it. I think it has the most potential, but that doesnt mean it will win the format war. I think it will be whoever can deliver thier format the cheapest, and that might be hd-dvd. Who knows, Im enjoying mine right now. I view HD-Dvd deal with some production companies as both desperation and brilliance. With transformers not on bluray its the first time ive ever thought about Hd-dvd having an advantage over bluray. However, no way im buying a hd-dvd just for one movie. I think transformers is thier ace in the hole, bc I dont think many people care whether the Notebook is in hd or not.

10/15/2007 5:13:58 PM

HD-DVD ~ 30GB
Blu Ray ~ 50 GB

i just thought about that

10/15/2007 9:19:23 PM

If you are still considering bluray there are a ton of buy one get one deals going on this week. Go to fatwallet for the links. Bestbuy, CC, and amazon are all having deals thru sat.

10/16/2007 9:04:47 AM

Porn went HD-DVD, so it wins.

10/16/2007 9:36:55 AM

Quote :

"Porn went HD-DVD, so it wins."

Yes, nothing like high def razerburns/bumps, stretch marks, surgery scars, etc. Some things I dont need to see in HD.

10/16/2007 10:52:35 AM

^^that's actually not even true. Not that it even matters nowadays. Who the hell actually BUYS porn anyway?


THere was a comment in the news, direct from whoever put Transformers out, that there was not enough space on the disc for them to put all the supplements they wanted AND have lossless audio. So they had to sacrifice a lossless audio track.

Wasn't someone on here trying to tell me that disc capacity was irrelevant when it came to movies???

10/16/2007 1:01:02 PM

Quote :

"HD-DVD ~ 30GB Blu Ray ~ 50 GB"

this is the only thing bluray has going for it...the blue diodes (is that the right term?) are more expensive to produce (though, of course, with quantity comes a lower price) and it IS, after all, a sony product, which means they're absolute asshats about how they manage who can do what with their proprietary format/hardware/whatever...if it weren't for the fact that 20gb is A LOT of space difference for media of almost exact same size, i'd hope upon hope for hd-dvd to win

but then, with 51gb hd-dvds being a possibility in the not-too-distant future, the margin narrows...ritek's supposed ability to extend the discs (both bluray and hd-dvd) to 10 layers means that we're at 150gb for hd-dvd and 250gb for bluray...which means bluray still has the edge

anything but sony, though

10/16/2007 1:07:33 PM

There have been exclusive titles to both formats (for example Casino Royale was only released on Blu-Ray), however this doesn't change the fact that Blu-Ray continually outsells HD-DVD.



[Edited on October 16, 2007 at 1:25 PM. Reason : img]

10/16/2007 1:21:36 PM

just get whatever has the most movies you want to watch on it, this media was is going to be too even to call for a long time

10/16/2007 1:26:49 PM