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"Also, with regards to the cheating thing - in terms of relationships and how hurtful cheating is, is it any more hurtful than the wife withholding sex from the guy, or using it as a tool for manipulation? Marriage comes with expectations - one that the other will not cheat and also that you'll have frequent sex from the one you marry. If you women will agree that the husband who hasn't gotten regular sex should be able to sue for divorce and the same benefits that you would accord a betrayed wife, then at least you're being intellectually honest. If not, you're just being selfish"

12/7/2007 2:23:00 PM

12/7/2007 2:32:02 PM

ibt fuchsia/bridget

12/7/2007 2:34:08 PM

LOLZ

12/7/2007 2:36:35 PM

Engaging in sexual activity should always be completely voluntary. Making a contract to have sex for x number of years seems dubious to me.

12/7/2007 2:37:52 PM

to you it seems that way, but if i get married i am expecting sex in a regular cycle or i can say no matter how much i love her i got to get laid or the relationship will not last. tell me one relationship that you know of were sex once a month or something ridiculous tlike that (unless they are old)is cutting it?

12/7/2007 2:40:45 PM

By "sex," do you mean some specific sex act? (Vaginal intercourse, for example.)

12/7/2007 2:42:25 PM

sex is actually only vag to peen, all the rest are made up version of supplemental sex

12/7/2007 2:43:45 PM

sex is making love. if you dont have sex how can there be love.

12/7/2007 2:47:44 PM

well technically sex is only when you reproduce, making love is when you don't reproduce

12/7/2007 2:50:26 PM

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"Marriage comes with expectations - one that .....you'll have frequent sex from the one you marry."

i thought it was common knowledge tat one you got married you never got laid?

12/7/2007 2:51:35 PM

Watch enough Dr. Phil episodes and you will get some crazy prospectives on this.

12/7/2007 2:52:18 PM

^^ thats only for boring couples

and couples consisting of girls who marry the first loser they find because they're too scared of being alone, and end up having miserable lives

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 2:52 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 2:52:18 PM

yeah i used to work with a dude who fucked his wife all the time and loved it....i think the perception that wives dont have to fuck their husbands gets into their heads and they become so damn cocky that they dont give anything up.......jens comment is the exact reason why im afraid of marriage

12/7/2007 2:57:37 PM

in on the first page of this one

12/7/2007 3:02:00 PM

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"If not, you're just being selfish"

12/7/2007 3:03:02 PM

well my comment was a joke but you hear about that alot. Espically when couples have been together for a long time, work, have kids, get busy, whatever.

But your ^^^ right. Im doubt i would want to stay married to a man that didn't nail me to the wall every now and agian.

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 3:07 PM. Reason : ^^]

12/7/2007 3:07:09 PM

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"sex is actually only vag to peen, all the rest are made up version of supplemental sex"

I hope you're joking.

12/7/2007 3:13:51 PM

tell me why you think i am joking?

12/7/2007 3:15:42 PM

i used to fuck like 3 times a day, but now it's like once every two days cause of the dog and house and job and sleep

12/7/2007 3:16:45 PM

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"Im doubt i would want to stay married to a man that didn't nail me to the wall every now and agian."

What a wonderful way to put it.

12/7/2007 3:17:46 PM

id file for divorce if my wife said she was gonna stop bwnin

12/7/2007 3:18:08 PM

i would say once a week is a minimum. and thats borderline actually

12/7/2007 3:18:31 PM

yeah but as an overall average once a week is straight

12/7/2007 3:19:26 PM

Minimums like that worry me. I don't like the idea of pressuring anyone into sexual activity.

"We're married! Have sex, damn you!"

12/7/2007 3:25:08 PM

pressuring?

come on man how are you going to get some if you don't ask, or how is she going to get some if she doesn't ask? can you just walk up to your partner and throw them down without notice and just have sex with them whether they feel like it or not? i think not.

12/7/2007 4:05:48 PM

the answer to this problem is simple:


every wednesday night........it's business time

12/7/2007 4:07:45 PM

also, it is wise to fulfill your partners sexually desires/fantasies (within reason) or else someone else will do it! really!

^ that should at least be a weekend night

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:09 PM. Reason : sdfgh]

12/7/2007 4:09:00 PM

so that soulfire's "ibtfuchsia" still works...


stupidest thing I've read all day

there are glaringly obvious situations in which a sex "requirement" would not work

what about guys who can't get it up, even with medical help?
what about people who've been in accidents where their sexual functioning is limited?
what if two people get married on the grounds that they'd never have sex (like marrying a gay man who wants a green card in the US or something)?

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:19 PM. Reason : etcetera]

12/7/2007 4:13:50 PM

Asking isn't always pressuring.

However, I could easily imagine a man using some weekly minimum as a way to pressure a woman into sex.

12/7/2007 4:15:12 PM

well i could see a wife holding out as being selfish.

12/7/2007 4:16:09 PM

if she's actively holding out, maybe

but most women have lower sex drives than men

and you guys don't deal well with this fact

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:24 PM. Reason : and sometimes also have issues expressing love in ways that don't include your dick]

12/7/2007 4:23:10 PM

yeah i understand that, i don't literally mean she has to bwn once a week, but you got to be reasonable, right?

12/7/2007 4:25:58 PM

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"what about guys who can't get it up, even with medical help?"

Why would that hinder sexual activity?

http://books.google.com/books?id=m3m3_Uq8qWkC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=%22can+t%22+get+an+erection+%22best+sex%22+ever+clitoral&source=web&ots=G-2hmi2G-O&sig=0IBuG8H6ZlYTGx1X454uJUhThwo

12/7/2007 4:26:00 PM

this is why i will carefully choose who i plan on spending the rest of my life with. Except i don't want any bait and switch bs to happen.

12/7/2007 4:27:04 PM

Right before I got married, an older gentlemen told me to put a jelly bean in a jar everytime my wife and I had sex the first year of marraige. After the first anniversary, he said to eat a jelly bean each time we had sex. I would die with jelly beans in the jar. Now that I am halfway through my third year of marraige and she is 4 months pregnant, I am beginning to believe him.

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 4:30:05 PM

well i am going to sue if i don't get any within a reasonable amount of time intervals because i am sad that i have to lay next to some vag in my own bed and can't hit, and it is mentally stressful, and i have to divorce her in order to have sex with other women because i will not break marriage vows, and also i have to get used to another woman.

^ hahahaha

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:31 PM. Reason : sdfgh]

12/7/2007 4:30:33 PM

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"but you got to be reasonable, right?"

but then, don't you as well?

I mean, don't you also have to accommodate for her not wanting to have sex every week? You've got a very one-sided view of this whole thing.

And no, her not wanting to fuck you every day doesn't mean it's okay for you to cheat on her. Ever. The legally-binding part of marriage covers that. I mean, feel free to try and sue on such a ridiculous basis: see where it gets you. She's not neglecting you by having a lower sex drive.

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : ,]

12/7/2007 4:30:58 PM

were not saying every day

were saying an AVERAGE of once a week, not every day

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 4:32:00 PM

^^ yes you are right, i am kind of play devil's advocate here, but at the same time presenting a reality of why a marriage could fail.

women can sue for alimony, why i can't sue because my sex life is poor as a result of her?

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:33 PM. Reason : rtfgyh]

12/7/2007 4:32:00 PM

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:32 PM. Reason : stupid double post]

12/7/2007 4:32:21 PM

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"her not wanting to fuck you every day doesn't mean it's okay for you to cheat on her. Ever."

oh ho ho, i think we have a selfish one here, men.

12/7/2007 4:33:15 PM

^

It's nice that you endorse cheating, completely disregarding the legal bounds by which marriage is currently set down in this country. Really, that's awesome. She likewise shouldn't cheat on him, though statistically, men are more likely to cheat on their wives than vice versa.

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"were not saying every day were saying an AVERAGE of once a week, not every day"

same principle, it doesn't change anything

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 4:33:26 PM

i endorse suing her and getting a divorce and use the money to have sex with hookers!

12/7/2007 4:34:57 PM

well, its nice that you only think about marriage in terms of strict legalese, stillfuschia

12/7/2007 4:35:34 PM

i understand you cant have a marriage entirely based on lust, but you gotta fuck me when i want it....not EVERY time i want it, but if its been a while give it up for fucks sake

12/7/2007 4:35:48 PM

^ pun intended?

12/7/2007 4:36:56 PM

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"well, its nice that you only think about marriage in terms of strict legalese, stillfuschia"

Of course I don't. But are you fucking kidding? What kind of marriage, outside of one that sets up explicit rules for extramartial sex, allows cheating because "you're not getting enough sex whine whine whine"?

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:38 PM. Reason : ./]

12/7/2007 4:37:40 PM

stillfuschia or however you spell it, who said anything about cheating?

12/7/2007 4:38:22 PM

you did, read the first post

seriously, cheating is wrong regardless of if she's "withholding" sex or not

and setting up a weekly requirement to "meet your needs" is ridiculous

[Edited on December 7, 2007 at 4:40 PM. Reason : .]

12/7/2007 4:38:52 PM