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Meg
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do they even need to go through nsa? i can log on to verizon at any time and see incoming/outcoming calls, dates, duration, etc. not sure how far back those records go, maybe like 2 years? i suppose nsa probably has records going back even further.

6/13/2013 1:59:06 PM

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"The prosecution had told defense attorneys that they were unable to obtain Brown's cellphone records from the period before September 2010 because his carrier, MetroPCS, had not held on to them."

6/13/2013 1:59:36 PM

Meg
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Yeah I saw that when I went back and read rather than just skimmed the article.

6/13/2013 4:43:46 PM

aaronburro
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"A guy wants the records in the NSA database for his criminal defense... and they probably have them. Even though Google deleted the records in Brad Cooper's case because of their data deletion policy, our government probably still has it on their servers.

How can you keep data for the purposes of bringing national threats to justice, but yet deny that justice to other cases?"

because you don't really care about justice or protecting Americans from threats, you just want to have a surveillance state? (and by "you", I men "teh gubmint")

This case makes me sick, because the Cary DAs did everything they could possibly do to prevent discovery of exculpatory evidence, including not giving the defense access to evidence needed to subpoena 3rd parties until after those 3rd parties' privacy policies would warrant destruction of the evidence the defense would need. And since the defense can't prove that such was the purpose of the delays, the prosecution gets away with it.

6/13/2013 10:08:54 PM

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"Breaking News: The North Carolina Court of Appeals has ordered a new murder trial for a Cary man convicted more than two years ago of strangling his wife. Brad Cooper, 39, was found guilty in May 2011 of first-degree murder in the July 2008 death of Nancy Cooper, whose body was found in a drainage ditch in a cul-de-sac of an undeveloped subdivision near their home."

9/3/2013 8:18:44 AM

ncsuapex
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Just saw on wral. Awesome

9/3/2013 8:20:29 AM

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i can not wait to follow along with this.

9/3/2013 8:39:37 AM

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Worst Juror Ever, standing by.

Gotta cover all the threads.

9/3/2013 8:42:39 AM

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omg omg I saw this on my newsfeed!!

Get the popcorn ready y'all!


In all seriousness, I'm really glad.

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"The trial court did err in limiting (Jay) Ward's testimony in such a manner that prevented him from testifying concerning data retrieved from the laptop, including the Google Map files," the court said in its ruling Tuesday."

9/3/2013 9:41:23 AM

DivaBaby19
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Ahhhhh I came to post this too!

SO EXCITE!

9/3/2013 9:46:44 AM

BobbyDigital
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+1000 credibility for drhavoc

9/3/2013 9:56:33 AM

Wadhead1
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So awesome.

9/3/2013 10:37:20 AM

SSS
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Great news!

9/3/2013 10:59:46 AM

puck_it
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Glad this was a unanimous decision that gessner was a fucking moron.

BRING BACK ROSEMARY. OFFICIAL TWW ADOPTED MOM.

9/3/2013 11:10:08 AM

ncsuapex
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Layla looking extra fine today.

9/3/2013 12:04:20 PM

MinkaGrl01

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"Mr. Cooper’s journey isn’t over – he still has a long way to go before this case truly ends. The State will still have the opportunity to appeal the decision to the North Carolina Supreme Court, and even if the decision of the Court of Appeals stands, the Wake County District Attorney’s Office is not going to let this go without a fight. Justice, though, is a worthy goal and fair treatment of all parties is fundamental to achieving that goal."


http://www.kurtzandblum.com/criminal-defense-attorneys/blog/new-trial-for-brad-cooper

9/3/2013 4:41:15 PM

raiden
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GO BRAD GO!!

9/3/2013 8:00:38 PM

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I'll be following this one too.

9/3/2013 11:29:26 PM

kiljadn
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I'll have to get the daily summaries on this instead of following along since I've switched jobs.


but yeah

drhavoc +1000 credibility

9/4/2013 7:53:55 AM

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whatever happened to the smarmy little fuck that was the lead prosecutor? i hope he didn't advance his career on this

9/4/2013 8:07:34 AM

puck_it
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Boz zellinger? Probably.

9/4/2013 6:24:09 PM

JohnNoir
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Wait? Are we back? Do we need to create new websleuths names and have at that?

9/4/2013 6:52:47 PM

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9/4/2013 7:02:13 PM

jocristian
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I don't have any hate for the prosecutors. They weren't very good, but they were just doing their job. The judge is the one that fucked the dog and the jury helped him.

9/4/2013 7:03:36 PM

wolfpack0122
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Can't wait. I've been "like"ing all of the group's Facebook posts. Cuz you know...... that makes a difference

9/4/2013 10:03:57 PM

ncsuapex
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Page 1 post 5 was epic.

9/4/2013 10:39:04 PM

Wadhead1
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Roy Cooper doesn't want the appeal to go through - http://www.wral.com/nc-appeals-court-orders-new-trial-for-brad-cooper/12871377/

9/10/2013 12:55:53 PM

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Brad Cooper might be guilty as all get out but his evidence was suppressed at trial giving the prosecution an unfair advantage.

9/10/2013 1:49:20 PM

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"I don't have any hate for the prosecutors. They weren't very good, but they were just doing their job. The judge is the one that fucked the dog and the jury helped him."

I have a lot of hate for the prosecution. They weren't just "doing their job." They conspired with the attorney in the custody hearing to deny Brad his 5th Amendment rights, and then intentionally introduced shit from that deposition completely out of context to make Brad look bad. They conspired with police to destroy evidence on TWO cell phones. They used the fucking FBI to analyze a computer when the SBI could have done the same, so that they could hide behind "national security", in an otherwise fucking inconsequential murder trial, mind you, when the defense wanted to question the analysis. They lied about and misrepresented every single piece of evidence in the trial, and then, by delaying the trial with non-stop gossip for two straight weeks, turned the jury against the defendant by making the jury sick and tired of the whole damned charade. And why did they do all that? Because they wanted to win. No one in the DA's office cared about fucking justice. They just wanted to win, and they don't care who they hurt in the process. Fuck them. Fuck them hard.

9/10/2013 10:00:38 PM

puck_it
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^this... And even worse in gessner for not fixing those missteps. Its probably for the best, though, a mistrial would be tried in his court. At least now he'll get a new judge.

9/10/2013 10:04:42 PM

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http://www.wral.com/nc-supreme-court-won-t-stand-in-way-of-brad-cooper-retrial/13325541/

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"RALEIGH, N.C. — The North Carolina Supreme Court decided Friday not to her the state's appeal of a lower court ruling granting a Cary man a new trial in the 2008 death of his wife.

The state Court of Appeals ruled on Sept. 3 that Brad Cooper should get a new trial for the strangling death of Nancy Cooper after the judge erred in the 10-week murder trial by not allowing defense witnesses to testify about critical evidence that could have changed the jury's verdict.

Because the appellate court ruling was unanimous, the Supreme Court wasn't obligated to take up the case. The Attorney General's Office petitioned the court for a discretionary review, but the court denied the request without comment.

Brad Cooper, 39, was convicted of first-degree murder in 2011 and is serving a life prison sentence.

He maintains that Nancy Cooper left to go jogging on the morning of July 12, 2008, and never returned home. Her body was found several days later in a drainage ditch in an undeveloped subdivision a few miles from their Cary home.

The state's only concrete evidence in the case was a Google Maps search of the site where her body was found.

Prosecutors contended it was made the day before Nancy Cooper disappeared, but defense attorneys argued that someone tampered with Brad Cooper's computer while Cary police searched the couple's house for evidence.

Two defense witnesses weren't allowed to give their expert opinion that someone tampered with the Google Maps files, and the appeals court said the trial judge should have allowed the testimony.

"The Google Map files recovered from the defendant's laptop were perhaps the most important pieces of evidence admitted in this trial," the three-judge Court of Appeals panel wrote in its ruling."

1/24/2014 1:23:45 PM

dtownral
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Boz is running for District Attorney:
https://www.facebook.com/bozforda

everyone please be sure to share on your facebook page how we do not want Boz for DA

1/24/2014 1:29:03 PM

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""The Google Map files recovered from the defendant's laptop were perhaps the most important pieces of evidence admitted in this trial," the three-judge Court of Appeals panel wrote in its ruling."


They were about the only evidence since that router is at the bottom of a lake somewhere.

1/24/2014 1:29:15 PM

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tl;dr

so is there going to be a new trial?

1/24/2014 1:44:19 PM

BigMan157
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did they find her?

1/24/2014 2:01:33 PM

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yeah

brad tried to hide here but he didn't do a very good job...

1/24/2014 2:49:24 PM

sparky
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with as much evidence as he allegedly hid, i bet if he wanted to hide her body they wouldn't have found it.

1/24/2014 2:54:27 PM

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I assume the guy was much better with technology than he was with hiding bodies.

1/24/2014 2:56:55 PM

sparky
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he was a smart dude either way. her body wasn't even hidden...just dumped on a construction site.

1/24/2014 4:01:50 PM

aaronburro
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^^ Yeah, so great with technology that he did the dumbest thing imaginable, while being perfect in the cleaning up the house forensically to leave zero evidence despite having zero training in it department

1/24/2014 8:33:31 PM

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I love how you nerds think this nerd is innocent

1/24/2014 11:34:30 PM

aaronburro
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I love how you think he's guilty. he's easily the most brilliant murderer ever, who was caught by doing the dumbest possible thing, despite it being within his realm of actual expertise to avoid it.

1/25/2014 12:47:04 AM

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He's pretty dumb because he got caught. There's no avoiding that simple fact.

1/25/2014 12:59:01 AM

BobbyDigital
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I won't claim that he's definitely innocent, but he was convicted on some extremely shaky evidence. there was plenty of reasonable doubt.

1/25/2014 10:55:20 AM

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I think the consensus was he probably did it, but shouldn't have been found guilty right?

1/25/2014 12:11:19 PM

dtownral
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i haven't seen anything to decide that he probably did it

1/25/2014 12:21:47 PM

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"I think the consensus was he probably did it, but shouldn't have been found guilty right?"


Nope.

People like you are why the jury system horrifies me.

1/25/2014 12:21:48 PM

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^ because I mis-remembered what people said on an internet forum? yikes!

1/25/2014 12:25:46 PM

aaronburro
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He didn't "get caught." he was the only suspect the Cary police ever considered because they were completely inept. That's not "getting caught." That's "being fucked".

1/25/2014 1:43:20 PM

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"That's not "getting caught." That's "being fucked"...[assuming he didn't do it, which who the fuck knows]"

1/25/2014 3:16:29 PM

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