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Bullet
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In other words "Please give me attention. Please?"

1/20/2017 2:33:21 PM

TerdFerguson
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Dude thinks calling Climate change a religion is "competent posting," meanwhile we have 85 pages systematically debunking Anthony Watts blog posts which I doubt he'll bother to read.

[Edited on January 20, 2017 at 2:40 PM. Reason : But isn't that Trumpkins in a nutshell, dismissing sober analysis for hashtags and 140 characters]

1/20/2017 2:39:25 PM

JCE2011
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I was gonna say ya'll should take notes from the 2008 posts ITT, people could actually argue back then. Whatever ya'll were bumping this with was garbage tho

"You're a DENIER" = religion

1/20/2017 2:42:06 PM

TerdFerguson
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We haven't had a denier post anything more scientific than Anthony Watts, Roy Spencer, or Dick Christy blog posts in probably at least 5 years, all of which are typically easily debunked with a basic understanding of statistics or occasionally a quick google search to see what legitimate scientist are saying. The fact that you've never produced anything that could be construed as science is telling. Hard to make real arguments in under 140 characters.

1/20/2017 2:50:26 PM

JCE2011
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" The fact that you've never produced anything that could be construed as science is telling"


I haven't made a scientific argument ITT because when the debate has pivoted from something that can be disproven (Global warming) to something that cannot be disproven (The climate changes) it is pointless.

Until there are actual tangible problems and actual proposed solutions the climate change debate is pointless.

In the meantime I'm happy to point out that the alarmists simply want attention, money, power, etc... aka argue the politics of it.

1/20/2017 3:04:35 PM

TerdFerguson
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Ahahahahaha patented conservative semantics argument. I can't see too well, is that you aaronburro???

"if I'm not allowed to set the definitions of all words used in a debate then I won't participate and instead I'll sit back and throw bombs."

Followed by: Baghdad Bob flat denial that anything is going on

Followed by: scaremongering about liberals coming to take everything you hold dear argument.


You really are a vapid idiot aren't you?

1/20/2017 3:16:15 PM

kdogg(c)
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Climate Change Page on whitehouse.gov is gone.

1/20/2017 3:34:04 PM

JCE2011
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A vapid idiot would cry about a problem without being able to first define the problem and suggest a solution.

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"if I'm not allowed to set the definitions of all words used in a debate"


lol. The liberal global warming argument is like a college essay that realized it was shit halfway though and changed the thesis mid paper. The climate is CHANGING, can't disprove that, can you? See I was right! What a hypothesis.

^ So is the section claiming the ACA was working. lol

[Edited on January 20, 2017 at 3:40 PM. Reason : .]

1/20/2017 3:39:17 PM

Bullet
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^^I'm sure this is a leftist clickbait website, but the claim can easily be verified

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315284-white-house-climate-change-webpage-disappears-after-trumps

1/20/2017 3:43:03 PM

JCE2011
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It is leftist clickbait

1/20/2017 3:45:38 PM

TerdFerguson
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No, a vapid idiot thinks changing the terminology from global warming to climate change suddenly changes all the debates and facts within the science. It doesn't, no one cares what you call it so long as you recognize the role of greenhouse gases in climate.

The absolute worst part is you don't recognize that WE HAD TO CHANGE IT TO CLIMATE CHANGE BECAUSE ASSHATS LIKE YOU WERE POINTING TO CHILLY OUTSIDE TEMPERATURES AS EVIDENCE THAT "global warming" IS FALSE.

The title was literally changed because of the lowest common denominator idiots like yourself.

1/20/2017 3:49:15 PM

JCE2011
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You cried wolf, and people saw through it. Years later you have to change your argument to "wolves exist". You made the adjustment because the stupidity is on your side.

I don't care about arguing over miniscule temperature changes I care about problems and solutions. You can say "science" as much as you want, but this issue is all about government control and money right now.

1/20/2017 4:17:32 PM

TerdFerguson
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Must..rewrite..history..to save.. muh..narrative.

Newsflash: Technically the global average temperature is still increasing, so global warming is fine as a term.

But I see what's really going on here. You have no scientific arguments and you know you are out matched ITT because you are either dumb as a clay bank or have never taken the time to branch out from the "science" section on Buttbart. So instead you gotta start this weak semantics argument, it's plain as day.

Why don't you read this thread and when you are caught up I'll come back and maybe we can have some intelligent back and forth.

1/20/2017 4:29:21 PM

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Actually, you can thank conservative Frank Luntz for suggesting the terminology change from global warming to climate change. (But...but...muh narrative! - JCE)

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""The scientific debate is closing [against us] but not yet closed. There is still a window of opportunity to challenge the science," Mr Luntz writes in the memo, obtained by the Environmental Working Group, a Washington-based campaigning organisation.

"Voters believe that there is no consensus about global warming within the scientific community. Should the public come to believe that the scientific issues are settled, their views about global warming will change accordingly.

"Therefore, you need to continue to make the lack of scientific certainty a primary issue in the debate."

The phrase "global warming" should be abandoned in favour of "climate change", Mr Luntz says, and the party should describe its policies as "conservationist" instead of "environmentalist", because "most people" think environmentalists are "extremists" who indulge in "some pretty bizarre behaviour... that turns off many voters". "


https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2003/mar/04/usnews.climatechange

1/20/2017 4:29:54 PM

JCE2011
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I know you leftists get erect when you see a temperature graph and think you are finally wearing your big boy pants and talking "science"... but like I said, none of the changes matter until you can point to an actual problem happening with an actual solution.

In case this is too complex for you I will summarize: I'm not arguing about a temperature change, I'm arguing about a MEANINGFUL change that actually AFFECTS something. I'm not denying your pages of super smart temperature science charts, I'm saying nobody gives a fuck. Drive your Prius and pat yourself on the back, until the sea level actually rises nobody gives a fuck.

1/20/2017 8:57:18 PM

TerdFerguson
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So when the US military/intelligence releases report after report detailing how climate change could threaten "national security and international stability," that's not really a problem?

1/21/2017 7:34:30 AM

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" Drive your Prius and pat yourself on the back, until the sea level actually rises nobody gives a fuck."


sea level has been rising for 8k years. which is weird because the coal was still in the ground for 97.5% of that time.

i bet if we make energy prices really high and keep poor people poor it will be all better tho

1/21/2017 7:48:10 AM

TerdFerguson
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^This is exactly what I'm talking about, dismissing sober analysis for 140 character arguments.


you can't reason with that.

1/21/2017 7:59:09 AM

Pupils DiL8t
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Just look to Bangladesh for recent changes to its current sea level.

Also, why would climate change policies keep poor people poor? I thought that they were just thinly veiled attempts at wealth transfer to underdeveloped nations.

[Edited on January 21, 2017 at 3:36 PM. Reason : ]

1/21/2017 3:33:42 PM

beatsunc
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^high energy prices affect poor people the most.

^^true, people will believe a simple wrong explanation over the correct one they cant understand about every time. e.g. religion

1/22/2017 6:01:12 AM

TerdFerguson
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https://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/publications/techrpt83_Global_and_Regional_SLR_Scenarios_for_the_US_final.pdf

New NOAA update on sea level rise projections in the US. Looks like NC might be right on the edge of an area projected to have higher than average sea level rise, a 0.3-0.5 m increase over the global mean.

1/24/2017 8:16:02 PM

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"Climate Change Page on whitehouse.gov is gone."

For the record, that wasn't Trump's doing.
http://www.snopes.com/white-house-web-site-trump-changes/

1/24/2017 8:46:46 PM

TerdFerguson
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Totten glacier in the news again. The more data that gets pulled from Antarctica, the worse the news seems.
https://www.nature.com/news/antarctica-s-sleeping-ice-giant-could-wake-soon-1.21808?WT.mc_id=FBK_NatureNews

4/12/2017 10:10:40 PM

moron
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^ the Trumpist solution is to stop pulling data, duh

4/12/2017 10:24:02 PM

rjrumfel
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No no no

We send a bunch of ice cubes from America up to the Antarctic. It'll be great because these ice cubes - and they will be cubes, will be the best ice cubes ever made. And they'll be made here in America. Sent up there by American ships, powered by beautiful American diesel. We'll dump these ice cubes - and there'll be a lot of them, into the water up there. It'll cool the water down tremendously.

4/12/2017 10:50:27 PM

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