Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quinn's idea was a good one, I'll keep all my Lotus crap confined in here for you guys
First up: Guy is selling a completely mint ExigeS tub, asking $2000. This is an insane deal for someone who wants to build up a track car Link to LotusTalk Thread
If you built it up with all OEM parts, you could get to a track ready car for ~15k. The beauty is, with a bare tub, it's perfect to put in a Ecotec (http://www.secantvehicles.com/) for 280-350hp, or a K20A (http://www.prototyperacing.com/) for 240-300hp, OR an Audi 5, V6, or V8
Or you could get really wild and throw a Corvette engine in there (there's several GT cars with LS engines)
All kinds of possibilities 5/1/2009 8:45:49 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
an lsx powered lotus would be nuts. 5/1/2009 8:56:17 PM |
Chop All American 6271 Posts user info edit post |
should have titled this Lotus Notes.
Zing! 5/1/2009 9:00:32 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^hahahah, dude, can someone change the title to that? 5/2/2009 1:15:37 AM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
Why would you want a k20A? Obviously the Yamaha Toyota motor was superior or a company the caliber of lotus would have never chose it....right?
Go V6!!!!
[Edited on May 2, 2009 at 9:22 AM. Reason : .]
5/2/2009 9:09:46 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^it just happened to be the best fit for the chassis. didn't really have anything to do with the characteristics of the motor, other than physical size. 5/2/2009 5:27:29 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
needs a hemi 5/2/2009 10:48:28 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
well, toyota DID make hemis... 5/2/2009 11:29:29 PM |
Quinn All American 16417 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
I'm pretty sure that is not the true reason. I've always wondered why they chose what they did and have had a feeling it was some drama with \-/onda. It's hard to dispute their inline 4 engines. Even some of the early 90's motors are superior to the yamaha in the elises I was looking at many moons ago.
Once i saw all the ariel designs with K20's it kind of had me really wonder..... Cost isnt an issue they put the thign in a 20k civic and these loti are what 60k? 5/3/2009 7:56:50 AM |
smoothcrim Universal Magnetic! 18966 Posts user info edit post |
so.. are car frames like bike frames? if I bought that frame, would the VIN be attached to it and I could have a clean titled car if I built on top of it 5/4/2009 12:49:19 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
^yes
^^ Honda wouldn't license the engine to Lotus. The K20A is more expensive, heavier, and larger. But mostly it was because Lotus and Yota had such a strong relationship, and didn't have direct competition.
Quote : | "Even some of the early 90's motors are superior to the yamaha in the elises I was looking at many moons ago." |
Uh, what? Even the B18 doesn't hold up against a 2ZZ motor, in production configurations. The K20, 2ZZ or Ecotec were the options. And all of them are pretty good.
Quote : | "Once i saw all the ariel designs with K20's it kind of had me really wonder..... Cost isnt an issue they put the thign in a 20k civic and these loti are what 60k?" |
Cost is a huge issue. Lotus makes almost nothing from the Elise/Exige. It's a very low margin, low run vehicle line. Their money comes from engineering services and selling similar platforms to other car makers. The reason a civic costs 20k is because it's a steel unibody chassis. Bonded almuminum ain't cheap.
And keep in mind an Ariel Atom costs about what a Lotus does, and is only registerable in a handful of states, can't be driven in the rain, and has no warranty.5/4/2009 4:16:04 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
sounds like a damn ricorz circle jerk here, my dd3adkea482jhxi pwnts them all 5/5/2009 11:08:55 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "69.... I feel sorry for you. I really do. I understand. the Internets is your thing. it makes u feel 'big and bad' and you use it to make up for something that you are lacking in your life. shit if i had to look at that ugly mug that ur sporting everyday in the mirror I too would be a dick head on the Internets too. actually, i probably would have cut my face off with a rusty lawn mower blade by now. do yourself a favor and work on improving yourself before you criticize others. " |
5/5/2009 3:27:42 PM |
TKE-Teg All American 43409 Posts user info edit post |
^^^I've always regretted Lotus not going with Honda powertrains. The Honda engines are better, and the transmissions are WAY better 5/5/2009 3:30:45 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
^^
Quote : | "you talk a lot of shit for someone who cried like a little bitch trying to get Squirt to take you back for months after stalking her, hell the first time i met you i thought you were a flaming faggot, i'm still not convinced though, you probably couldn't even get evan to suck a dick that small" |
5/5/2009 7:32:23 PM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "and the transmissions are WAY better" |
Now that I will completely agree with you on 5/6/2009 2:22:47 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
needs an ls7 5/18/2009 8:15:19 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Lotus Evora reviewed by Top Gear:
6/23/2009 12:28:11 AM |
Ragged All American 23473 Posts user info edit post |
2 threads 1 car 6/23/2009 2:32:12 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
that's a good looking front end on that one^^
[Edited on June 23, 2009 at 2:35 AM. Reason : evora] 6/23/2009 2:35:03 AM |
shmorri2 All American 10003 Posts user info edit post |
I am considering the Evora over the Cayman S. We'll see how that works out in the future 6/23/2009 10:07:15 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Another creation for sale:
305hp, 1400lbs. Street Legal. He's asking $34,500
http://www.lotustalk.com/forums/f94/perrys-spiderii-really-sale-time-75135/ 6/26/2009 1:49:11 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
dang, not a terrible price for a street legal go kart. is that the same one that you linked a build thread to a while back? 6/26/2009 1:53:25 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
very likely 6/26/2009 6:04:55 AM |
Noen All American 31346 Posts user info edit post |
Oh yeah, so some guy just ran his 2007 Exige S in SCCA T2 at Laguna Seca last weekend. This year is the first year bring a SC Lotus into a SCCA class.
It set new track records for T2. Probably not so good long term (if it gets bumped to T1, it'd be toward the rear of the pack), but still pretty damn impressive for the first race.
Finished in 7th and 9th overall, in a field of 40 cars with only other other P2 entry (WRX STI)
From his quote: "600 hp+ NSX's, full on Mustang, Panoz, Viper Cup racing cars, 996 and 996 Cup cars, GT3 RS, RX7's, RX8's, a super cool brand new wide body M3, a world challenge CTS-V, and some guys in Miatas and older Porsches... so a variable of 20 seconds a lap on some of these cars." 6/26/2009 11:26:11 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
pickled lotus is pretty good 6/28/2009 8:38:09 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
6/29/2009 3:13:43 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
straight up wig 7/3/2009 8:30:36 PM |