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BobbyDigital
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you definitely want to seed in the fall, assuming fescue. Seeding in the early fall will ensure it'll mature enough by winter to survive and then get good root growth all spring. It's on the later side of fall seeding, but still worth doing if you haven't.

seeding in the spring is generally an exercise in burning money, but without any fire. the grass doesn't mature enough between the spring and the heat of summer, and most of it will be dead by june unless you water every day it doesn't rain, and even then you end up having shallow root growth.

disregard all of that for warm season grasses like bermuda.

10/6/2015 4:20:25 PM

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^

10/7/2015 1:32:19 PM

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Anyone able to guess at this bermuda variety? I'm assuming bermuda, though a GIS shows that Zoysia looks very similar and many people confuse the two... I haven't done a ton of work/research into the intricacies of warm season grasses... but the NCSU turffiles site looks like bermuda or st. augustine, not zoysia. Certainly nothing I've seeded and the areas of this grass aren't connected to my neighbors, so I'm guessing it's seed that was blown/dropped by birds/wildlife. It's thick and plush... I love it and want more. I know neighbors have seeded with bermuda (don't know variety). I doubt anyone has seeded st. augustine, but I haven't asked that question.





[Edited on October 7, 2015 at 9:17 PM. Reason : pic]

[Edited on October 7, 2015 at 9:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/7/2015 9:17:18 PM

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welp, a crop science guy says it looks like carpetgrass and/or st. augustinegrass... going to take some samples in.

10/8/2015 8:43:54 AM

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Blades look too thick to be Bermuda...but I don't really know anything...so whatever.

10/8/2015 8:57:01 AM

BobbyDigital
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I think it's likely a bermuda cultivar, definitely not one that's desirable.

http://www.garden-counselor-lawn-care.com/bermuda-grass-pictures.html

pictures in the above link look very similar.


or could it be torpedograss? i have a hard time distinguishing it from bermuda, though it's considered much more invasive and difficult to get rid of.

10/8/2015 12:31:17 PM

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want to expand on that not desirable part?

10/8/2015 1:53:18 PM

BobbyDigital
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yeah i probably shouldn't have used the word definitely, but what i meant is that it doesn't look like the type of bermuda that you'd plant intentionally, as it has large, coarse blades.

Most bermuda that i've seen used in landscaping has really fine, soft blades.

10/8/2015 5:04:28 PM

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looks like st. augustine to me

10/8/2015 9:38:51 PM

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Took a sample by ncsu crop science and the professor said it was centipede grass, though a darker green than he would expect.

10/10/2015 12:02:53 AM

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Yeah, looks like centipede to me as well.

Easy to grow, doesn't grow to fast ... I prefer it to any other grass I have ever had. I currently have about 3 acres of it.

10/13/2015 2:36:59 PM

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I'm hoping it takes over. The more I look, the more I find.

10/13/2015 4:40:53 PM

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That's centipede. Not this time of year, but when it's hot (like May-August), you can pull those runners growing where you do want them and replant them around in new spots where you do want them. I've got St. Aug's and it has a left and right leaf at each node along the stem, that looks like it alternates (centipede). Beats the pants off of trying to keep fescue going. Took about four years to transition my lawn from fescue and weeds and bahia.

There's a place at the Farmer's Market called Supersod where you can buy a few rolls of sod and cut it up into plugs and plug around.

10/13/2015 9:43:06 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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how'd you get/keep the bahia out of the centipede?

10/13/2015 9:46:32 PM

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Good question.

10/14/2015 8:33:15 AM

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It was like 90% Bahia when we moved in summer of 2007, just awful. I sprayed roundup and sprayed again, seeded fescue that fall, then sprigged St. augs the spring of 08, but only in two spots in my yard (grocery bagful I took from my in-law's house down east). Got those two bases of operation going and then it was elbow grease and replanting sprigs for a few years. I tore out a little crap tree and sodded over that spot with zoysia rolls from Supersod in like year 2. Then I sprigged with centipede out of my dad's lawn in some other spots where the st aug's wasn't thick in 3 and 4.

Now that it's mostly warm season turf that I desire, I'm just going Thunderdome with it and whichever wins, wins.

10/14/2015 9:03:18 PM

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any thoughts on mowing before or after a hard freeze? I'd love to get one more mowing in before it's completely dormant

11/14/2015 5:16:01 PM

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mow as required to maintain the recommended height for you turf. I mean, I wouldn't do it right before or during.

[Edited on November 16, 2015 at 9:13 AM. Reason : .]

11/16/2015 9:12:40 AM

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Anyone have recommendations for stores/projects for landscape borders? I prefer a natural/natural looking block or stone, capable of curves and stacking for elevated beds.

3/9/2016 1:18:22 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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I think Raleigh has a General Shale location. They usually have a huge selection. Go there and check them out.

3/9/2016 5:14:22 PM

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Any chance 3-4 year old kentucky blue grass seed will germinate, or should I just compost it?

3/9/2016 7:01:18 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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it certainly won't hurt anything to throw it down and see

3/9/2016 8:29:40 PM

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Yah if nothing else is will break down into nutrients

3/9/2016 11:25:33 PM

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When should i throw out some scotts weed and feed? I have centipede in the front yard..its still pretty much dorm right now. Usually starts to turns green on the first 90 degree day.

3/10/2016 8:07:14 AM

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4^ some of it will; some won't... but now isn't the time to do so... unless you just really want to waste it.

3/10/2016 8:18:33 AM

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^ right I was considering saving it for the fall

3/10/2016 8:23:45 AM

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3^ Don't fertilize centipede in winter/spring; only summer/fall. I would do pre-emergent ASAP.

3/10/2016 8:56:33 AM

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I forgot to fertilize my fescue in the winter...just put some down. Anything I should look out for?

[Edited on March 10, 2016 at 11:03 AM. Reason : http://www2.turffiles.ncsu.edu/Articles/TF000017.aspx]

3/10/2016 10:43:17 AM

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Nah, you're good.

3/10/2016 1:03:19 PM

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