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JP
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^yeah, the Saviors were told/"shown" that Maggie was dead, and it wouldn't look good for Gregory if they found out she was alive

3/29/2017 10:08:14 AM

LudaChris
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Yeah I think Gregory knows that Maggie has the support of the people and she could easily take his position of power since he didn't actually do anything of merit to attain it and he doesn't really offer anything to his people. Maggie was just working with people, showing them how to farm, teaching them useful skills, and they know she can protect herself and others. She's a GREAT candidate to be in a position of power there given her skills and likability.

Maggie knows Gregory is a joke and shits on him every chance she can. Her pointing out to the others that he has never killed a walker was strategic, and Gregory knows politics enough to understand that while she only said a few words, she basically crushed him in front of some of his people.

Gregory basically tells "Trevor" that someone is infringing on his position of power so now he's going to have him take care of Maggie since he isn't able to do it himself. Like someone pointed out, this could be asynchronous so he could potentially have told "Trevor" who told Negan, but I'm still not convinced of that one.

Also, for all we know, the Junkyard Gang could have sold out Rick and Co, nothing about those people seemed loyal or honest.

3/29/2017 10:17:53 AM

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^ that makes sense. my thought was that either Gregory told Negan, or that Negan has a few scouts that have been following Rick and company while they go from settlement to settlement rounding up support. Guess we'll see

3/29/2017 3:40:35 PM

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I don't think the junkyard people were the type to whisper something in Negan's ear, they would probably just want him to not know they were there, of course if Negan knew there was a group that big in the junkyard he might shit his pants.

I'm still thinking the next episode ends with the shot heard round the world or something like that

cry havoc, and let slip the dogs.... oh shit, we ate the dogs

4/1/2017 12:25:45 PM

rwoody
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at that "twist"

4/2/2017 10:35:21 PM

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thought it was a pretty good episode

4/2/2017 11:04:26 PM

LaserSoup
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So wait, did Dwight leave that "note" for Darryl?

4/3/2017 8:31:49 AM

Wraith
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^It wouldn't make sense if he did. After the note was found, he was suspicious of his ex-wife so he went to their old house to compare the handwriting on the note with some of her old handwriting. It wouldn't have had that whole scene if he had left the note.

4/3/2017 9:07:42 AM

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I enjoyed the "twist" and the episode. Finally a season finale where the group is SOL but you know that we are on the precipice of change.


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4/3/2017 9:22:35 AM

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i thought it was lame, barely anything happened this season and they are in basically the same position as they were last season

4/3/2017 9:29:02 AM

LudaChris
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Yeah felt like the Junkyard people flipping was kind of obvious, nothing about them seemed dependable or trustworthy.

Dwight's wife left the note for Daryl before she ran. Dwight just left the little figurine to let them know that he's still on their side and he couldn't warn them because he didn't know. Would be a little surprising that he didn't know at all though considering his rank in the Negan Army, but who knows how information is provided.

No qualms with the way it ended, nice resolution to the first battle of the "war".

4/3/2017 9:39:40 AM

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lol at the general ineptitude of the junkyard people. They had their guns literally aimed at the Alexandria folk and Rosita was the only one of the main cast who got shot? Carl literally shot three of them and not a single one of them got a shot off on him?

Also, lol at the tiger. Ezekiel had enough of a line of sight on Rick/Carl/Negan to order his cat to attack and they wait until the tiger leaps into action before firing a single shot? And not just that, the tiger attacks one of Negan's red shirts instead of Negan himself? If that whole group could clearly see Negan, why wouldn't they just start shooting immediately at him? I guess you could say they were worried about a stray bullet hitting Rick or Carl, but as soon as the tiger jumped on that guy they started shooting at them anyway...

4/3/2017 11:01:07 AM

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^^agree, I'm pretty sure Dwight left the figurine but was also surprised he didn't know. Maybe he found out after he returned and couldn't do anything about it to warn them. If he was lying the whole time he wouldn't have dropped the trees in the road like he said he would.

^Agree with that too. I told my wife that way more good guys would have died in that sequence

[Edited on April 3, 2017 at 11:06 AM. Reason : .]

4/3/2017 11:04:25 AM

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Yep, a lot of suspension of disbelief to accept a lot of that episode. Supposedly there were 100+ scavengers, all with guns, and somehow Rick's people were able to get out of it? Kinda silly.

4/3/2017 11:32:23 AM

rwoody
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Do we know what the garbage people wanted from Negan?

The "12......ok, 10" bit. I thought maybe that was intentionally left in question, but I figure its more likely that i just missed something.

4/3/2017 2:04:43 PM

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I don't think the junkyard gang ever wanted to kill them all.

4/3/2017 2:09:36 PM

Wraith
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^^Without any context, maybe they wanted them as labor slaves of some kind? Kind of like the lower tier workers that Negan has at his camp? That would explain why the junkyard folks didn't want to actually kill them?

4/3/2017 4:38:42 PM

scotieb24
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Yeah I figured it was people since Negan said people are resources or something like that.

Maybe if Rick would have just agreed to throw her the D she would have stuck with them.

4/3/2017 4:50:16 PM

moron
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It was a good episode, but needed to be a midseason finale.

4/3/2017 8:09:54 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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Yup, Definitely mid season finale type episode. I actually nearly dropped out after the torture porn first episode. But I am optimistic for a really fun season next year with the faction war.

4/3/2017 11:28:15 PM

JasonNSCU85
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I wonder if the Junkyard people will stick with Negan, or just peace out. I am hoping they bolt, and are not heard from again. I feel like I need a CC English translation on my TV whenever that tall lady talks.

4/3/2017 11:57:00 PM

HOOPS SHALOM
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I kinda want the group to be done with hanging out down south. I want them to continue their journey . I want to see the remenants of the US government. Meet scientists working on cure again. Shit like that. If I was Rick's group I would have left Negans territory right after he murdered all my friends. Who would want to live under his thumb?

[Edited on April 4, 2017 at 8:33 AM. Reason : H]

4/4/2017 8:32:45 AM

LudaChris
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I mean, if you find a small community with a perimeter built, doesn't seem densely populated with walkers, has already built homes, running water, and FREAKING ELECTRICITY...hard to give that one up.

Obviously Negan is a game-changer, but we saw how hard they fought for a Prison that was overrun, have to imagine that anywhere worth living at this point is going to be on the radar of any survivors. So far they've definitely run into more crazies than good people left too.

4/4/2017 8:51:47 AM

rwoody
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Negan is only a game changer only bc the crew is so dumb

Negan consistently makes choices as baffling and counter productive as the main crew

4/4/2017 11:51:43 AM

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