^it's a little more twisted than that


the reason why these mug shots sites think they are untouchable is due to their claims that "Everything is public record!" and "We aren't doing anything illegal!"

They would normally be right except they would be extorting people. What they do is register numerous domains, charge someone a 180 dollar fee and then pop up another site (That they are also running) and post the same fee for removal. People were paying thousands trying to erase their past and then finally got a lawyer.

The lawyers got them into court and got them on RICO and extortion (civil theft) and Misappropriation, which I do not think they were expecting.

So yes they were running a racket to hurt people and extort them for the protection of their images, and now they are the ones with a record.

So what you see now is these shell corps operating under the same sphere, but there is an auto deletion scheduled.

They lost a lot of money, and I am happy for those among us who wish to make a fresh start.


To me, when they sued mugshotsdotcom it was a victory for all of us. It was the most epic slam to internet bullying in history.

The battle continues, and I think that this is a critical point where information rights, internet bullying, employment standards, property rights, and how we decide to treat our society as a people will be decided.

Are we going to live in a country where our criminals remain in the stockades for 20 years and are subject to ridicule for decades? Or are we going to be a country that respects privacy and is not focused on hatred and a perverted clinging to the past.

Quote :

"http://www.counselor.pro/practice-areas/class-action-lawsuit-against-mugshot-websites/ UPDATE: On October 6, 2013 the New York Times published an article on the Mugshot Industry. Google and various credit card companies are now helping combat for profit mugshot websites. Click Here to Read more UPDATE: We’ve received an overwhelming response to our lawsuit and want to thank you for your continued support. Many of you have asked how you may contribute to our cause. If you would like to help, we need to find the addresses of website owners. If you have the ability to find a physical address for mughshots.com and/or any company or persons that are connected to the website, please contact us. You may send us the information using the form below or call our dedicated mugshot lawsuit phone line at (567) 694-6847."

1/9/2015 9:47:12 AM

not guilty



01-09-2015 18B-302(B)(3) CONSUME ALC BY 19/20

01-09-2015 90-113.22A POSSESS MARIJ PARAPHERNALIA

01-09-2015 90-95(D)(2) SIMPLE POSSESS SCH IV CS (M)

1/11/2015 7:26:14 AM

Was arrested for three things that should not even be illegal.

1/11/2015 9:11:23 AM

shame it wasn't possession of ChapStick

1/11/2015 11:07:42 AM

It's pretty shameful that a 19 year old getting busted for petty shit has her picture blasted around online for others' amusement.

1/11/2015 9:33:55 PM

^^^ Why shouldn't possession of Schedule IVs be illegal?

1/11/2015 9:48:39 PM

Because Schedule IV's shouldn't be illegal. At a bare minimum, marijuana shouldn't be a schedule IV.

1/11/2015 10:34:56 PM

Quote :

"They lost a lot of money, and I am happy for those among us who wish to make a fresh start. "

You can't run from your past...

1/11/2015 10:37:23 PM

^^ Well, it's a good thing it's not then!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Schedule_IV_drugs_%28US%29

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 10:38 PM. Reason : a]

1/11/2015 10:37:56 PM

^^ And you shouldn't be able to extort someone for their past, continuously, either.

^ forgive me, then. My original point about Schedule IV still stands.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 10:51:05 PM

Why?

1/11/2015 10:55:47 PM

Why should they be illegal? Why should it be illegal for someone to put something into his body that affects literally zero other people?

1/11/2015 10:58:44 PM

Well, benzos can be used for date rape, parents could attempt to self medicate their children and end up hurting them, the possibility for addiction is there, etc etc

why should Schedule IVs be legal?

1/11/2015 11:02:28 PM

So you prosecute those who use them for date rape, and prosecute parents who fuck up. Alcohol can be used for date rape, and it's legal. It also has the possibility for addiction, yet it's legal. So, again, why should they be illegal?

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:04 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:03:54 PM

Is your argument all drugs should be legal?

1/11/2015 11:06:24 PM

That is absolutely my argument. Whatever somebody wants to put into his body that affects only him, let him do it. If he fucks up, prosecute his ass.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:08 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:07:33 PM

Okay, if I can argue that one drug should be made illegal to obtain without a doctor's permission, will you agree what since once drug should be made illegal, there are potentially loads more that should be treated the same way?

1/11/2015 11:09:00 PM

I would make no such agreement. If you'd like to posit a drug that you think should be illegal, knock yourself out. I'll probably disagree, because the only things I would ban would be "drugs" that are really contagions or chemical weapons, which necessarily affect someone other than the user.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:13 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:13:07 PM

Hey, I'm cool with the no chemical weapons thing.

Lets go with antibiotics. Should antibiotics be made freely available for OTC purchases at every drug store in America?

1/11/2015 11:18:07 PM

Antibiotics plainly have a public health component to them, as their improper use affects other people via antiobiotic resistance. This doesn't mean that marijuana should be illegal.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:22 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:21:12 PM

I didn't say anything about marijuana. The argument here that you made is all Schedule IV should be made legal.

1/11/2015 11:25:19 PM

Forgive me for being overly broad, then. You still understand my point, as I've articulated it a couple times: if a person wants to put a substance into his body whose usage in and of itself affects only himself, then he should be able to do so.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:38 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:26:58 PM

Great, but you have to look at the bigger picture, much with antibiotics. You already agree that antibiotic misuse presents a public health problem, well, your answer to people abused Schedule iv was 'prosecute those who use them for date rape, and prosecute parents who fuck up'...how come prosecuting people who take antibiotics when they weren't needed wasn't an option? Instead, you say you need an Rx.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:30 PM. Reason : a]

1/11/2015 11:29:51 PM

I don't follow you at this point. I think I have said that prosecuting people who abuse antibiotics is an option... The point of the Rx is to regulate the usage to remove the threat to public health as best as can be done, short of strapping the person down to a chair and properly administering the drugs until they are no longer needed.

1/11/2015 11:33:52 PM

"The point of the Rx is to regulate the usage to remove the threat to public health"

Great.

Is there a public danger to certain drugs that you think only affect the user? Danger that can be mitigated with a doctor prescribing you a correct dosage, evaluating your current health, telling you what medications interact with what.

If a person who couldn't sleep decides to run to the store and pick up a few ambien to get some sleep, and then ends up 'sleep driving' and kills someone, do you think this couldn't have been prevented if that ambien was a bit harder to get to? If a parent accidentally gives their a kid the wrong dosage of a medicine or what that interacts very badly with another medicine, is it their fault for not being responsible for the most current medical knowledge? Person with depression decided to take a couple antidepressants in the hopes of getting better, however because they're not monitored and don't step up the dosage, they take the wrong amount and get even more depressed and kill themselves. Sucks for them I guess.

1/11/2015 11:41:01 PM

Your last paragraph is entirely filled with scenarios where a person misused the drug and affected other people. Prosecute as needed. It is essentially the exact same way we treat alcohol usage, so why should these other drugs be any different?

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:43 PM. Reason : last, not second]

1/11/2015 11:43:16 PM

Would 'prosecute as needed' work with antibiotics?

The average person is incapable of deciding what constitutes the misuse of certain substances.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:44 PM. Reason : a]

1/11/2015 11:44:00 PM

what the fuck is going on here

1/11/2015 11:44:52 PM

Nope, thus the reason I treat them differently, as already stated.

1/11/2015 11:44:58 PM

The average person is incapable of deciding what constitutes the misuse of certain substances.

1/11/2015 11:45:54 PM

As for the average person, if he can't deduce what is misuse, then he shouldn't use them in the first place; otherwise, he should face prosecution.

[Edited on January 11, 2015 at 11:46 PM. Reason : ]

1/11/2015 11:46:22 PM

If the avg person cannot decide what is acceptable use, the average person shouldn't have access.

The average person can't fly a plane, so we don't let them fly without a license rather than just let them and prosecute the ones that crash

1/11/2015 11:51:11 PM

That's because the average person flying a plane will plainly affect other people (no pun intended). The average person can't handle alcohol and use it intelligently. Should it be illegal?

1/11/2015 11:52:29 PM

I would wager the average person knows exactly what they're doing when they start to drink and have a fair idea of their limits.

1/11/2015 11:59:13 PM

And yet, millions drive drunk every year, putting millions more in extreme danger. We fundamentally disagree on this. You think that any possibility for for misuse should mean people can't have it. I disagree. That's where we are.

1/12/2015 12:00:53 AM

You're putting words in my mouth with 'any possibility of misuse'. A butterknife, car, gallon of draino, computer etc all have a possibility of misuse, but I don't think they should be illegal.

When the possibility of misuse is more likely than the acceptable use or non-harmful use (including self) I think is where the line should be drawn.

1/12/2015 12:10:46 AM

And I disagree, as I think you punish misuse so that people know to seek out the proper usage. I'm not going to go grab a random bottle of medication X, and I doubt most people would, either. Moreover, the vast majority of people who would misuse it would affect only themselves, putting further honus on them to educate themselves.

This is entirely opposed to locking people up in jails, destroying their lives, creating vast, unregulated, and violent black markets, just so we can have the appearance of security, in order to prevent someone from sticking something into his own body that affects no one else.

You want the illusion of security at the expense of personal freedom, I want personal freedom at the expense of a few people fucking up and hurting people.

1/12/2015 12:19:21 AM

Both of you raise good points.

But for the record, I really like sage, just in general as a spice.

No matter, the government's stance on Schedule 4 or moral purity standards on what you decide to put into your body.

One thing that we can all agree on

Is that, every 1 grams of sage, it's totes cool with Uncle Sam to find an average of 20 insect fragments.

Quote :

" Average of 200 or more insect fragments per 10 grams"

And if that's not disgusting, perhaps their standards on rat hairs or "rodent filth" (I suppose a euphemism for ratshit) may make you reconsider the health and safety standards....

http://www.fda.gov/Food/GuidanceRegulation/GuidanceDocumentsRegulatoryInformation/SanitationTransportation/ucm056174.htm


Yeah I know this shit isn't groundbreaking stuff. We all know that rats poop in our Campbell's tomato soup, but I think these numbers should be taken in consideration when weighing the government's other moralistic imperatives on consumption of various products......alcohol, tobacco, etc. etc. Who has the moral high ground? Uncle Sam with the insect-infested sage and ratshit soup? Or the guy drinking a beer saying fuckit?

1/12/2015 2:04:55 AM

Bah, I hate agreeing with burro

bbehehehe being an annoying twat ITT

1/12/2015 3:50:36 AM

Marijuana is Schedule 1 people...right next to heroin.

Schedule 4/5 are the least controlled.

1/12/2015 10:08:55 AM

Quote :

" I'm not going to go grab a random bottle of medication X, and I doubt most people would, either. "

Yeah, I'm going to wager you're wrong here, especially when you consider many Schedule IVs are antidepressants.

Quote :

"the vast majority of people who would misuse it would affect only themselves"

Even if that was the case, does society not have an obligation to keep people from self harm? Also, again, you're making a huge claim with zero statistical evidence.

Quote :

"You want the illusion of security at the expense of personal freedom, I want personal freedom at the expense of a few people fucking up and hurting people"

Neat, putting words in my mouth again.

For the record, so far you have claimed that Marijuana is Schedule IV, I think that anything that has 'any possibility of misuse' should be made illegal, and I think marijuana should be made illegal.

1/12/2015 10:45:48 AM

At the end of the day you guys are arbitrarily arguing about laws that were made up on the basis nothing at all. Everything should be experienced.

http://www.quora.com/Why-do-Aghoris-consume-marijuana-at-some-holy-shrines-How-is-it-linked-with-spirituality

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

[Edited on January 12, 2015 at 10:55 AM. Reason : According to this random article written by some random guy]

1/12/2015 10:53:37 AM

WHAT IN THE ACTUAL FUCK IS GOING ON ITT. GO TO THE SOAPBOX BBEHE AND TAKE YOUR FOLLOWERS WITH YOU!

1/12/2015 10:58:55 AM

thoughts on bbehe's ideas at times, not on the person



[Edited on January 12, 2015 at 11:06 AM. Reason : ]

1/12/2015 11:00:38 AM

Quote :

"When the possibility of misuse is more likely than the acceptable use or non-harmful use (including self) I think is where the line should be drawn."

This is the problem with society. Everyone is so fucking terrified of self harm. I'm not saying you should smoke enough PCP to nearly overdose and see if you can live through ego death, but I think the only important thing is that you don't risk harming anyone else. Normals don't understand mental masochism. If someone wants to harm themselves and knows the how and why I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to do that?

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

1/12/2015 11:10:51 AM

^^ at the edit

1/12/2015 11:13:23 AM

Quote :

"NORMALS DON'T UNDERSTAND"

1/12/2015 11:25:44 AM

I wanted to say normcore in that post so bad.

I'm Krallum and I approved this message.

1/12/2015 12:23:06 PM

the war on drugs obviously causes more problems than it solves just like the prohibition of alcohol did but arguing about it in this thread is :



01-11-2015 90-95(D)(4) POSSESS MARIJUANA UP TO 1/2 OZ

1/12/2015 5:56:38 PM

^ his face literally says

my life is now forever fucked up over this stupid offense and you fucking busted me and now I am forever fucked over


and guess what, if he's got padded pocketed daddy warbucks mommy and daddy sittin at home he can jump right into the class action and take CCBI and Angelis and the whole mugshot industry to the fucking bank as a party plaintiff for misappropriation of his image

#justice

yeah, mugshot people, keep fucking with some of these kids and see if there isn't round two of the lawsuits

1/12/2015 6:14:22 PM