season2 started? cool. after i watched an episode or two, I hated this show for calling me out on a few of my eccentricities. then i decided the writers must've done some really deep research.. now i respect teh show and am willing to watch it for free at least.

oh and my dead of winter monthly power bill is like $12 and I'm leave my shit on all day and night. FUCK YOU American utility companies.

1/28/2013 2:00:52 AM

I may be in the minority here, but I thought the episode they just released OnDemand is better than last nights coke episode

but great, but the newest one... damn.

1/28/2013 11:39:32 PM

You are not in the minority. 4 >> 3 but both were very good. Watching them back to back tonight was an excellent decision.

I won't say more about 4 just in case there are those that don't watch it in advance...but man. Some quality scenes in ep 4.

1/29/2013 12:04:18 AM

Quote :

"but both great, but the newest one... damn."

1/29/2013 12:13:24 AM

fantastic

1/29/2013 12:49:24 AM

last few scenes of ep 4 were really really good (subway scene especially) but I liked episode 3 a little more.

the Jessa character annoys me. maybe moreso because I know in real life that's exactly what Jemima Kirke grew up as, a rich Manhattanite who did a lot of drugs and didn't have to worry about shit.

1/29/2013 11:02:46 AM

^agreed, but that's also what i like about this show...that on paper, several of these characters are irritating, but you still feel for/empathize with a character like jessa when she gets called a "whore with no work ethic." or at least i do. and both of the last two episodes were two of the best episodes in the whole series so far, both did a great job of moving seemlessly between hilarious moments and sincere sequences. i think i liked episode 4 a little more, but it's tough to choose.

loved how just about every character (ray, marnie, jessa, etc.) in episode 4 comes clean about how unfulfilled they feel about their lives. that theme is the heart of the show IMO.

1/29/2013 11:29:17 AM

Oh we are giving plot points to episodes that haven't aired yet now? Just another tdub entertainment thread I can't read....

1/29/2013 1:14:22 PM

Episode 4 did air, it's also available on HBO Go currently.

1/29/2013 1:26:33 PM

Episode 4 did not air. It airs this coming Sunday.

1/29/2013 1:34:49 PM

they are actually airing it for the 1st time this Saturday to avoid premiering it during the Super Bowl, BUT they have released it via OnDemand/HBOgo for your viewing pleasure

1/29/2013 1:36:09 PM

yeah my bad, rwoody. wasn't really thinking about the fact that it hadn't aired yet tbh. as others have said, it's on demand and on hbo go if you wanna go watch it.

[Edited on January 29, 2013 at 1:39 PM. Reason : /]

1/29/2013 1:39:05 PM

Quote :

"loved how just about every character (ray, marnie, jessa, etc.) in episode 4 comes clean about how unfulfilled they feel about their lives. that theme is the heart of the show IMO. "

good point and I agree with this. I guess it's not a bad thing to be annoyed with her character.

writing has been so good this season

1/29/2013 2:23:41 PM

people are reaaaallly gonna hate that one

everything about that episode felt like Louie

2/11/2013 1:21:01 AM

"I don't play that many sports, but when I do them, people are impressed."

2/11/2013 7:22:13 AM

I continue to be flabbergasted over the amount of critical acclaim this show receives. Are females really such a vapid demographic that this drivel of dialogue passes off as some kind of metaphor for 20-somethings' post-undergrad life?

"...unsatisfied with their lives..."?
"...finding themselves..."?
"...fulfilling their dreams..."?

The cliches this show bases its entire premise on are embarrassing. Yet, instead of being offended by this, women seem to find this show empowering.

What the fuck.

2/11/2013 7:56:23 AM

was this supposed to be a bottle episode?

this show needs less hannah, more supporting character development.

2/11/2013 9:24:28 AM

^^^^

I thought the same. I generally am not too entertained by the show, but I did like that episode more than the rest.

2/11/2013 10:50:31 AM

^^^Are those actual quotes from the show?

If they are, then we should be clear that they're intended to be drivel. Like, the big declaration Hannah made to Joshua at the end of this episode...it was all cliched garbage intended--consciously or unconsciously--to sabotage her connection with him.

2/11/2013 11:32:12 AM

I'm definitely a fan of the show but I knew it was a bottle episode about five minutes in and thought it was pretty bad. I kept expecting a big fight between the two of them to close out the episode so the shot of her walking out was a bit weird. A bottle episode might be acceptable once or twice for a long running cable series, but not a show on a premium channel where you only get about 12 episodes a year. I think Lena Dunham definitely casts good looking people for her to bang, and this one seemed to exist for no other reason for her to get up on the bad guy from The A-Team

2/11/2013 7:01:50 PM

He really has been in so many unremarkable movies, and I drop everything and watch them whenever they come on TV.

If he is your cup of tea, people, I'd also like to recommend Cole Hauser's entire body of work.

2/11/2013 7:50:13 PM

^^i don't think this was a bottle episode in the true sense of the term. You guys are all looking at it like a filler episode with no progression when in fact this episode focused so much on Hannah's feelings and aspirations of a certain life she's nowhere close to having. Did it take seeing her nude way too often, yes, but it still delivered.

[Edited on February 11, 2013 at 8:06 PM. Reason : Words]

2/11/2013 8:05:02 PM

This show has been on for a season and a half, and people are already screaming that Dunham is being self-indulgent by writing, directing, and starring herself, then giving herself handsome dudes to fuck.

I've rarely heard this criticism levied at Larry David, who's been doing the same thing for twelve years.

LOL SEXISM

2/12/2013 1:43:20 AM

The key is old rich dudes bang hot chicks all the time. Fat whiny self-centered white chicks end up owning 30 cats and fuck their vibrator while watching soap operas and the bachelorette

[Edited on February 12, 2013 at 2:20 AM. Reason : Z]

2/12/2013 2:18:41 AM

Yup. Larry David is a POS with money, fame, and power. Lena's character is a POS with no redeeming qualities at all. She's fat, poor, annoying, and not really talented at anything.

2/12/2013 6:48:57 AM

what is it about this show that brings out the inner sexist/misogynist in everybody? do you people have a fucking filter? for christ's sake



I actually loved this episode even though I knew while in the middle of watching it that most people would probably hate it. I tend to be a sucker for slower, more meditative episodes like that. And totally agree with the Louie comparison, hadn't even thought of that.

[Edited on February 12, 2013 at 7:04 AM. Reason : e]

[Edited on February 12, 2013 at 7:04 AM. Reason : w]

2/12/2013 7:03:46 AM

Quote :

"He really has been in so many unremarkable movies"

you must not have seen Little Children

2/12/2013 8:17:51 AM

No, I know. But then you've got Prometheus, the A-Team, Lakeview Terrace, Evening, The Switch, The Ledge, Insidious...all over the course of a few years.

2/12/2013 8:47:55 AM

Don't forget Watchmen........which was actually pretty good.

2/12/2013 9:27:29 AM

for a long time i thought Patrick Wilson and Josh Lucas were the same person

2/12/2013 9:33:17 AM

I loved this episode. Even after her rant of feelings at the end which was totally awkward and slathered with "crazy chick", she had a good point. Which I hope leads to her reuniting with Adam.

Also http://m.jezebel.com/5983437/what-kind-of-guy-does-a-girl-who-looks-like-lena-dunham-deserve

2/12/2013 11:08:53 AM

Even ignoring the botched ending, Watchmen is fucking terrible. The opening credits and Jackie Earle Haley are the only things in the whole flick that are acceptable.

2/12/2013 2:59:43 PM

Quote :

"Don't forget Watchmen........which was actually pretty good."

said no sane person ever

2/12/2013 3:38:11 PM

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/entertainment/2013/02/girls-nudity/62053/

for all those bitching about Lena Dunham being naked often

2/12/2013 5:18:45 PM

The show is starting to grow on me. I'm at Episode 8 (Season 1) and if I'm honest a major motivation to continue is seeing more of Adam.

2/25/2013 2:05:19 AM

Even though i like the character...am i alone in thinking that the girl that plays Jessa is a bad actor?

Probably just the scene on the swings with her dad, but her crying seemed overly fake and it took away from what should have been a very poignant and vulnerable moment.

In my opinion. To be fair, i hadn't noticed her acting as terrible before that point.

2/25/2013 4:04:50 PM

she's not really an actress

she grew up with Lena Dunham and (other than a random short film in 2005) has only appeared in things Lena Dunham has made

2/25/2013 5:06:22 PM

i've liked the last three or four episodes a lot, but i wasn't so keen on last night's episode. to me last night's episode started to veer a little bit into melodrama. maybe that's just me though

2/25/2013 9:00:05 PM

^agreed but i think the reason i didnt like it was that i think Jessa's character is annoying as shit



also the dude with the turtleneck was annoying as well



needs more cocaine or adam pls

2/25/2013 9:53:38 PM

^^^gotcha I didn't really know or think of that possibility

2/25/2013 10:22:20 PM

It's still fair to criticize her shitty acting, nobody forced Dunham to cast her

2/26/2013 7:08:47 AM

^I don't think he was saying she was above criticism, I think he was maybe explaining why she may not be the best actress (since she isn't really an actress)

Still, many of the characters in The Wire (for instance) were non-actors and they did just fine because they were just doing pretty much what they'd been doing their whole life--Snoop is a good example. Not saying the actor playing Jessa does as well as some of those non-actors, just pointing out that there's a precedent for shows casting non-actors and that it's not always the worst thing if the characters are written a certain way or if the show is trying to achieve an edge of realism.

I think Jessa works well sometimes, but I agree her emotional expression was over-the-top in this most recent episode.

[Edited on February 26, 2013 at 8:12 AM. Reason : .]

2/26/2013 8:06:47 AM

If jessa and the main character both got hit by a bus and the show continued with the rest of the cast it would be a great show

2/26/2013 8:32:08 AM

tonight was more evidence that Adam needs to be in pretty much everything ever

also, not a fan of Ray getting cheated on

3/3/2013 11:39:00 PM

i liked that scene with ray and marnie. ray has some good lines.

3/4/2013 12:31:20 AM

Ray and Adam still steal this show for me.

3/4/2013 4:15:01 AM

heck yea man Adam centered episode

Quote :

"also, not a fan of Ray getting cheated on "

[Edited on March 4, 2013 at 12:25 PM. Reason : k]

3/4/2013 12:24:59 PM

adam went full beast mode in this episode. would've loved to have seen more of his date in this episode.

i was pretty sad/disappointed when shoshanna cheated on ray...also i felt like it was kind of shitty from a narrative standpoint, felt a little too rushed although they have established some tension in ray and shosh's relationship the past few episodes. and i'm pretty happy for charlie coming out of the better end of his failed relationship with marnie. hannah's brand of ocd was pretty hilarious, especially when she shoulder-checked the guy eight times.

[Edited on March 5, 2013 at 12:24 AM. Reason : plural, dawg]

3/5/2013 12:23:54 AM

^I just don't buy her cheating on Ray. It's very random and unexpected and uncharacteristic of the character she's been portrayed as. I don't know how that motivation would be explained from the writer's standpoint...

3/5/2013 3:13:44 PM

is it really? shes newly devirginized and self absorbed.

all she needed was a hot guy to tell her she was pretty after actually feelign out of place in a social setting when she is normally the commanding role her normal social interactions

thats kinda my opinion, i dont think it was random or out of place.

3/5/2013 3:54:20 PM