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vinylbandit
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You are publicly admitting to a crime.

11/3/2012 3:20:04 PM

lewisje
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depends on the state IMO

11/3/2012 4:21:12 PM

Dentaldamn
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people instagram themselves doing illegal shit all the time.

11/3/2012 4:31:23 PM

shanedidona
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what crime?

11/3/2012 6:11:44 PM

jaZon
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In North Carolina it's illegal to record anything inside of a polling place and it's illegal to post images of marked ballots (even your own)

[Edited on November 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ]

11/3/2012 6:48:24 PM

shanedidona
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oh ok

11/3/2012 8:02:25 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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you can publicly suck my dick and take your law and stick it up your ass

11/3/2012 8:05:46 PM

tchenku
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it's also illegal to do it IDB

11/3/2012 8:52:56 PM

LaserSoup
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It should be illegal to instagram period. Just like twitter, people think every little thing they do is so fucking important to everyone else.

11/3/2012 10:01:47 PM

dyne
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Its all about social validation. Everyone is fb friends with that girl who takes a self portrait of themselves everyday to fish for likes

11/3/2012 10:25:33 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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twitter: If you see something, say something.

11/3/2012 10:58:40 PM

lewisje
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It turns out that it's probably illegal in Ohio too: http://www.citmedialaw.org/state-law-documenting-vote-2012#Ohio

General tips on documenting the vote are here: http://www.citmedialaw.org/documenting-vote-2012

11/4/2012 12:03:40 AM

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its also illegal to rig voting machines which I have successfully done, I hope all you Romney supporters enjoy your votes turning into Obama votes... all your votes R BELONG 2 US

11/4/2012 12:07:24 AM

lewisje
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It would be a good counterbalance to what has actually been done: http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html

11/4/2012 12:49:54 AM

DjGohan
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Fuck a cameraphone

11/4/2012 2:07:42 AM

MattJM321
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Quote :
"You are publicly admitting to a crime."


Unless it was a picture of your sample ballot that is available on the State Board of Election's website. https://www.ncsbe.gov/voterlookup.aspx

11/4/2012 9:38:33 AM

moron
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What's the rationale behind blocking pics of your own ballot?

11/4/2012 11:19:08 AM

SkiSalomon
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^ To prevent a modern form of carousel voting would be my guess.

11/4/2012 11:26:42 AM

lewisje
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I had to look this up, and the practice has been used as recently as the previous decade, but in (post-)Soviet Russia: https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Carousel_voting

11/4/2012 2:25:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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theres no need for photo IDs though, i mean they might be inconvenient for some people to get

11/4/2012 2:27:07 PM

sumfoo1
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this could be the greatest election ever... all the hipster voters get arrested !

11/4/2012 2:28:04 PM

lewisje
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^^how about definitely are

11/4/2012 2:41:50 PM

TreeTwista10
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for who?

11/4/2012 2:46:46 PM

lewisje
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poor people, dumbass

11/4/2012 2:48:33 PM

TreeTwista10
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do any of those poor people collect welfare, unemployment, food stamps, etc?

cause photo IDs are required for all those things

11/4/2012 2:52:04 PM

moron
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Photo ID laws probably could have been passed if republican law makers hadnt been caught saying how it'll help them win, then further writing the laws in a way clearly designed to disenfranchise certain demographics.

11/4/2012 3:32:39 PM

NeuseRvrRat
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i personally think it's a little strange that anyone who knows my name and address (public information) can go and cast my vote.

11/4/2012 3:36:56 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Putting a camera in every voting location would be one way to detect in-person voter fraud without disenfranchising those who have a difficult time obtaining an approved photo ID.

11/4/2012 4:19:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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seems like requiring a photo ID would be easier than monitoring tens of millions of people on tens of thousands of cameras

11/4/2012 4:21:56 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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It's not as effective. Anyone can fake an ID. Isn't the idea here to prevent fraud at whatever cost?

11/4/2012 4:25:31 PM

TreeTwista10
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anyone can fake an ID with a barcode on the back that scans into a DMV/government database? we're not talking about 19 year olds with facial hair trying to buy a 12-pack

or would you require everyone who enters a voting location to directly face the camera so they can use facial recognition software to verify tens of millions of people then cross-reference them?

11/4/2012 4:29:33 PM

Meg
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What this country needs are national ID cards and #s for every individual.

11/4/2012 4:32:20 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Ah so now we are setting up barcode scanners that link to "government databases" at every location? How is that cheaper than a camera?

11/4/2012 4:32:30 PM

TreeTwista10
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a cop can scan the back of your drivers license and pull up all your information from a "government database" i'm sure government issued IDs have the same type barcodes

but i guess you'd rather rely on old men security guards to monitor cameras watching thousands of people walking past cameras at angles that dont always show their faces clearly

11/4/2012 4:35:57 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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And what happens if the connection goes down? I guess the election is canceled.

No one has to monitor the cameras real-time. Record the images in case there is an issue so we can go back and identify violators. Plus it acts as a deterrent.

11/4/2012 4:40:07 PM

TreeTwista10
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so we're able to identify 150,000,000 people by camera footage?

why not just get a free government issued ID?

you need a photo ID to receive free healthcare, welfare, social security, food stamps, medicare, unemployment benefits, get a job, etc, whats the big deal about getting an ID to vote?

11/4/2012 4:43:12 PM

Meg
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Elections are a joke. We need kings and queens. Lords and ladies. Absolute power.

11/4/2012 4:44:08 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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What's the big deal about the government putting cameras in every polling location? This is obviously a serious problem that must be stopped. I don't see why you are so opposed to stopping voter fraud.

11/4/2012 4:46:36 PM

TreeTwista10
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i don't have a problem with cameras in every single voting location, i just don't know how effective they'd be, especially compared to something as simple as free ID cards

you'd pretty much need to take a picture of everyone who entered, and i mean a clear frontal picture of their face, and then keep track of over a hundred million people's pictures, probably using facial recognition software

using a photo ID that costs you no money seems much, much easier

i really dont get all the opposition to this, considering you already need a photo ID for so many other basic things in society

11/4/2012 4:51:24 PM

OopsPowSrprs
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Some people can't get photo ID very easily. Maybe someone mugged them the day before the election and took it. Or maybe they are lazy and just dont feel like getting one. That shouldn't take away their right to vote. And it doesn't have to when there are other ways to prevent fraud.

11/4/2012 4:54:58 PM

TreeTwista10
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lol

11/4/2012 4:56:21 PM

HaLo
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I don't think anyone is arguing that photo id for voting is a bad idea. The republican plans to implement it were intended to disenfranchise citizens though in their application and timelines.

[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 4:58 PM. Reason : And now someone has taken the very position I supposed didn't exist, and using a terrible example to]

11/4/2012 4:57:31 PM

mrfrog

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A Ron Paul supporter's wet dream.

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"It would be a good counterbalance to what has actually been done: http://www.ukprogressive.co.uk/breaking-retired-nsa-analyst-proves-gop-is-stealing-elections/article20598.html"

11/4/2012 4:58:57 PM

Meg
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There would be no need for ID cards if everyone just mesmerized their National Identification #

[Edited on November 4, 2012 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ]

11/4/2012 5:27:31 PM

seedless
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ttM3EEIAOo

11/4/2012 5:42:00 PM

Meg
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Lol I said mesmerized up there. Woops

11/4/2012 6:03:53 PM

dtownral
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^^^ wouldn't an inflection point be a sign of fraud? Where is the fraud in that chart?

11/4/2012 6:04:59 PM

vinylbandit
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^ The decline in Paul votes matches the increase in Romney votes, suggesting the machine changed Paul ballots to Romney ballots.

11/5/2012 9:54:56 AM

SkiSalomon
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"I had to look this up, and the practice has been used as recently as the previous decade, but in (post-)Soviet Russia"


It's actually a pretty common way of committing voter fraud and relatively easy to implement. And it happens in elections all over the world.

Interestingly, I personally witnessed it on a number of occassions in the previous decade in post-soviet countries.

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"Putting a camera in every voting location would be one way to detect in-person voter fraud without disenfranchising those who have a difficult time obtaining an approved photo ID."


Photographing voters in a polling station could raise serious ballot secrecy issues which could lead to increased voter intimidation. It would be fairly easy (at least in some places) for a determined poll worker to review camera footage and be able to sync ballots with individual voters

11/5/2012 10:04:22 AM

Str8BacardiL
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I support a photo ID requirement at the polls... as soon as the DMV stops charging for Licenses and ID cards.

11/5/2012 10:16:09 AM

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