so is Mormonism a cult again? Are we back to not liking Catholics? What's the ruling?

11/7/2012 7:19:23 AM

BRB. Off to fight Israel's war.

11/7/2012 7:22:14 AM

11/11/2012 9:07:02 PM

I am neither evangelical nor conservative nor even Christian

but still methinks that Mormonism, while not a cult, is a descendant of Christianity rather than a denomination

11/11/2012 9:08:52 PM

No. Mormonism is DEFINITELY a denomination. Mormons are still Christians.

11/11/2012 9:18:14 PM

How so? Christ said that anyone who proclaimed to be him is a false profit and is not to be believed. Mormonism is based in what Christianity would call a false profit.

11/11/2012 9:36:52 PM

Quote :

"A FALSE PROFIT"

11/11/2012 9:40:33 PM

republicans love profits

11/11/2012 9:41:58 PM

Wow. Google denomination. Christianity is divided up into multiple denominations. Mormons are Christians. They're not Buddhists, they're not Hindus, they're Christians...

11/11/2012 9:42:20 PM

11/11/2012 9:42:53 PM

11/11/2012 9:42:59 PM

It was a good tablet, I think the autocorrect is appropriate

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11/11/2012 9:43:05 PM

tell us more about profits and your intense research into religin.

11/11/2012 9:44:35 PM

Debatable

11/11/2012 9:44:57 PM

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"bottombaby Tweedle Dum 20379 Posts user info edit post Wow. Google denomination. Christianity is divided up into multiple denominations. Mormons are Christians. They're not Buddhists, they're not Hindus, they're Christians... 11/11/2012 9:42:20 PM "

Their dogma is different, nothing about the definition of denomination makes Mormonism a denomination of Christianity.

11/11/2012 9:46:05 PM

but what is their stance on profits (or losses for that matter)

11/11/2012 9:48:02 PM

For them

11/11/2012 9:48:43 PM

I don't know how much things have changed since Romney, but my southern baptist family members most certainly did not accept Mormonism as being a sect of Christianity

11/11/2012 9:55:35 PM

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"Wow. Google denomination. Christianity is divided up into multiple denominations. Mormons are Christians. They're not Buddhists, they're not Hindus, they're Christians..."

I've always considered a denomination a group who has a different way of looking at things but who are, more or less, of the same religion.

Mormons believe things that are mutually exclusive with Christianity as a whole. How are they a denomination of Christianity?

11/11/2012 9:57:23 PM

If Mormonism is a denomination of Christianity simply because it spun out of it, are Christianity and Islam denominations of Judaism?

11/11/2012 9:59:47 PM

Mormons are nontrinitarian Christians. They are a Christian denomination.

11/11/2012 10:03:20 PM

Muslims are nontrinitarian Christians

Also, a nontrinitarian Christian is not a Christian by Christian dogma

11/11/2012 10:05:00 PM

Some denominations do not even recognize that they are a denomination. Roman Catholics consider themselves to be before and above denominationalism and don't even recognize a majority of denominations as churches. So what?

11/11/2012 10:07:38 PM

Thats because Catholicism has a lot of differences from Protestantism

But that gap is a lot narrower than the gap between Christianity and Mormonism.

(in no way does that make anyone better than the other)

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11/11/2012 10:09:16 PM

What the what.

There are a lot of Protestants who would probably identify more with the LDS church than the Roman Catholic Church. Mormons are Christians. Mormons identify as Christians. Mormons are just as much a denomination as your Free Will Baptist or Lutheran or Jehovah's Witnesses (also nontrinitarian, btw.).

11/11/2012 10:16:45 PM

A lot of wrong there

11/11/2012 10:17:53 PM

Ok. What is incorrect about it?

11/11/2012 10:19:07 PM

Well Mormons aren't Christians, neither is the Jehovah's Witness religion

11/11/2012 10:21:03 PM

Ooooookay. And this is where I step out of the conversation because you're one of those people.

11/11/2012 10:22:26 PM

dtownral is in no way interested in meaningful discussion.

all he wants to do is twist words around until the individual he disagrees with becomes exasperated.

as evidenced many, many times in chit chat and tsb.

11/11/2012 10:25:49 PM

This is TWW, thereby not a serious place to discuss issues such as the one mentioned in the OP.

Were it, dtownral would have brought this up on TSB, not Chit Chat.

That being said, I present to you for your entertainment, a tire:

11/11/2012 10:26:30 PM

The difference between LDS and trinitarian Christianity isn't just the rejection of the Holy Trinity; it's much like the difference between Christianity and Judaism: For example, the Mormon belief that after the Rapture, God will rule from both Jerusalem and Missouri is as different from the Christian belief that Jerusalem will be the sole seat of power as the Christian belief that Jesus was the messiah and will come again to bring forth the Rapture is from the Jewish belief that the messiah hasn't come yet.

Another strong indication is that the LDS adds yet another set of sacred texts to the ones it inherited from Protestant Christianity (The Book of Mormon a.k.a. the Newer Testament, Doctrine and Covenants, and Pearl of Great Price), much as Christianity added a set of sacred texts (the New Testament, after the non-Gnostics shed a few Gospels) to the ancient Jewish scriptures (eventually canonicalized as the Tanakh but known to Christians as the Old Testament, after the addition of some deuterocanonical texts into the main set, which were later removed by the Protestants).

I mean Mormonism deffo belongs to the Abrahamic tradition but it's not part of Christianity any more than Christianity is part of Judaism or the Bahá'í World Faith is part of Islam.

11/11/2012 10:27:33 PM

That's pretty much my take.

I mean, I guess I can see the other side, but Mormonism is only part of Christianity if you take the broadest view and loosest interpretations...and at any rate, trivializing the stance that it is not a Christian denomination is absurd.

11/11/2012 10:34:21 PM

^yuuuuup

11/11/2012 10:35:09 PM

Mormons believe that they are Christians.

But whatever.

11/11/2012 10:35:53 PM

doesn't make it true lol

11/11/2012 10:37:34 PM

So then are Jehovah's Witnesses not Christian either?

11/11/2012 10:39:08 PM

I don't believe so

11/11/2012 10:39:29 PM

^^^^ that has precisely jack shit to do with anything other than what Mormons consider themselves to be.

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[Edited on November 11, 2012 at 10:45 PM. Reason : ]

11/11/2012 10:39:30 PM

Quote :

"Mormons believe that they are Christians."

11/11/2012 10:41:31 PM

Well, I was raised as a Free Will Baptist and taught that as long as you accept the Lord Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior that you're a Christian. Sooo, yeah. . .

11/11/2012 10:41:55 PM

I think the Apostle Paul was pretty clear about Mormonism even before it was around. He mentions it at the beginning of his letter to the church in Galatia.

11/11/2012 10:42:08 PM

you would have to believe in Jesus to accept Him

11/11/2012 10:43:58 PM

So, do you think that Mormons don't believe in Jesus?

11/11/2012 10:45:07 PM

Believing in Jesus is not the sole defining characteristic of Christianity.

11/11/2012 10:47:24 PM

I'm not in TSB.

Have a kitten.

11/11/2012 10:52:54 PM

thx!

11/11/2012 10:58:37 PM

I like how I get called out for trying to argue to be contrarian when obviously from my OP this was never intended to be a serious discussion, and also I haven't been wrong in this thread

11/11/2012 11:02:24 PM

11/11/2012 11:04:05 PM

Mormons consider themselves Christian in the sense that they are the true followers of Christ, while the other churches have strayed from the correct doctrine; however, the leaders of pretty much every mainstream Christian denomination believe that the Mormons are the ones who have strayed, with their extra testament and novel rituals, and their beliefs in so many important legendary events happening and expected to happen in what is now the United States rather than solely in the Middle East, Egypt, and southern Europe.

It's almost analogous to the Muslim view of Christians, except that while Islam regards Christians as imperfect Muslims (literally "submitters to God") straying from the correct doctrine, Mormonism regards Christians as imperfect Christians (rather than "imperfect Mormons") straying from the correct doctrine.

11/11/2012 11:09:24 PM