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3/29/2016 3:10:09 PM

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It would be naive to say Bernie's policies are great for every country. No, they are not great for poor countries. There are definitely levels to ideal national development. The most advanced nations have moved into the democratic socialism phase

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 3:15 PM. Reason : and it works]

3/29/2016 3:14:24 PM

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"They are homogeneous more as a result of socialism than the other way around. Socialism merges classes and education level for people all around the country. It turns out, when people share more of the same experiences, they actually unite and integrate more."


horse shit. none of the Scandinavian countries ever had immigration patterns like ours.

If you want to be fair, you should also be looking at Greece and Spain. While lovely places to vacation, their forms of socialism haven't panned out very well, have they?

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

3/29/2016 3:26:12 PM

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"orse shit. none of the Scandinavian countries ever had immigration patterns like ours. "

Actually Norway and Sweden have higher immigration rates than we do. Several times higher. Canada also can be thrown in there. Sweden had about the same % of population foreign born as we had in 2014. Even though immigration has literally nothing to do with this topic, I still have yet to find a non-bernie democrat who actually has the facts straight in general

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"If you want to be fair, you should also be looking at Greece and Spain. While lovely places to vacation, their forms of socialism haven't panned out very well, have they?"

Theres nothing fair about that. Those countries have significantly lower GDP per capita. Socialism is about money and resources, not about what country you were born in.

[Edited on March 29, 2016 at 3:44 PM. Reason : i've ]

3/29/2016 3:42:49 PM

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I suggest someone make a Bernie 2016 thread

3/29/2016 3:46:24 PM

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The most thorough analysis out there:

https://informedvote2016.wordpress.com/2016/03/18/do-i-really-need-to-worry-about-hillarys-emails-yes-she-will-be-indicted-full-form/

3/31/2016 12:29:27 PM

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you can't be serious. the wordpress blog of a senior at UGA who has no background in anything legal? do you even try at this point?

4/1/2016 11:03:09 AM

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it's a good read. ignore the troll ^

4/1/2016 11:18:00 AM

dtownral
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you can ignore the analysis and its a pretty good summary of the facts and timelines

4/1/2016 11:57:51 AM

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http://www.salon.com/2016/06/10/fbi_criminal_investigation_emails_clinton_approved_cia_drone_assassinations_with_her_cellphone_report_says/

Clinton approved drone strikes with her unsecured cell phone and had drone information forwarded to her personal email account. Not classified info?

6/10/2016 1:57:40 PM

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another story from the emails released:

How Clinton Donor Got on Sensitive Intelligence Board
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/clinton-donor-sensitive-intelligence-board/story?id=39710624

tl;dr
emails showed that Cheryl Mills put a political donor on a government intelligence advisory board

6/10/2016 2:18:19 PM

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whoopsie.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/06/10/despite-clinton-claims-2012-email-had-classified-marking.html

6/10/2016 7:54:25 PM

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I can forgive and forget, but I'm pretty sure some of the same people posting ITT regarding the email scandal called me retarded when I brought it up a year or two ago.

6/10/2016 8:18:57 PM

adultswim
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lol. wasn't me.

6/10/2016 8:21:42 PM

dtownral
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^^ links

6/10/2016 9:09:47 PM

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I too would like to see those links

6/11/2016 11:23:06 AM

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She will get off like UNC

6/17/2016 9:04:01 PM

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Still waiting on rjrumfel's links...

6/17/2016 9:38:15 PM

adultswim
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Loretta Lynch met with Bill Clinton today. Speculate away.

6/29/2016 12:47:58 PM

rjrumfel
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WTF dude

What links do I have to post. The report is what it is. It's partisan, and the responses to it have been partisan. Nothing more to say.

People are making a big deal about how the WH/state department wanted Libya's input about our involvement, and I think they are making a mountain out of a molehill. Even I agree that you can't just send troops from one sovereign nation into another sovereign nation without coordination and agreement on both sides.

No, my partisan hackery comes in with their explanation. I do believe they pulled it out of their rears, but for different reasons. Well, I don't think it helped that it was an election season, so there's that, but I think the embassy there was doing something shady with other countries in the region, and our government needed a good cover for it.

6/29/2016 3:31:02 PM

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links with you bringing this up 2 years ago

[Edited on June 29, 2016 at 3:37 PM. Reason : or even 1]

6/29/2016 3:36:45 PM

dtownral
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This Huma Abedin deposition is pretty bad, there's almost no way Clinton can avoid a deposition.

6/29/2016 7:21:04 PM

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they need to hurry the hell up, the convention is less than a month away

6/29/2016 7:26:33 PM

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^^^ duh.

6/29/2016 7:28:17 PM

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James Comey sounds pretty unpartisan and independent.

Loretta Lynch, on the other hand.

6/29/2016 9:19:07 PM

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6/29/2016 10:18:23 PM

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How is she not in jail yet again?

6/30/2016 8:21:11 AM

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^ Because she hasn't been charged or convicted of a crime. Pretty sure that's how jail works, but perhaps you know something we don't.

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"they need to hurry the hell up, the convention is less than a month away"


I'm SHOCKED that beatsunc has a specific timeline in mind.

[Edited on June 30, 2016 at 9:42 AM. Reason : V and in this case you'd really need a conviction, not just a charge]

6/30/2016 9:21:29 AM

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It's almost as if I was implying that the fact she hasn't at least been charged with anything yet is pretty ridiculous.

6/30/2016 9:26:43 AM

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i worried about timeline cause when Bill got caught committing a bunch a felonies he refused to resign. i would expect her to try to keep running even if indicted after convention

6/30/2016 10:23:28 AM

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"a bunch a felonies"


6/30/2016 10:30:47 AM

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hah, he didnt get impeached and lose his law license for sexy time. look it up

6/30/2016 11:31:36 AM

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He was acquitted by the senate, hence ^^

Also the "sexy time" wasn't the legal issue at play.

[Edited on June 30, 2016 at 11:46 AM. Reason : But I wonder if he had of just told the truth to begin with. What would have been the outcome?]

6/30/2016 11:44:54 AM

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[Edited on June 30, 2016 at 11:45 AM. Reason : dp]

6/30/2016 11:44:54 AM

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" But I wonder if he had of just told the truth to begin with. What would have been the outcome?]"


to me it looks you are conceding that he lied under oath which is a crime. i never said he was convicted. i said he committed felonies


back to hillary. will she drop out if indicted?


[Edited on June 30, 2016 at 12:29 PM. Reason : s]

6/30/2016 12:27:43 PM

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Facts don't need to be conceded man. The picture was a joke.

And the real discussion is *if* Hillary will be indicted. Seems like it's been a month or two since all these Breitbart and Blaze articles citing DOJ sources claimed an indictment was about to drop...

6/30/2016 12:43:40 PM

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Ignoring those "indictment is coming" bs articles, a lot has happened in a month. I need to read a summary to even remember it all.

6/30/2016 12:48:39 PM

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Here is a summary: if your sources are all far right wing media the indictment is right around the corner. Here in the real world where people aren't crazy Bernie or Trump supporters nothing it going to happen (rightfully or wrongfully).

[Edited on June 30, 2016 at 7:46 PM. Reason : Z]

6/30/2016 7:46:23 PM

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6/30/2016 8:55:59 PM

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You could extend that to pretty much any modern President.

6/30/2016 11:34:46 PM

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"Here is a summary: if your sources are all far right wing media the indictment is right around the corner. Here in the real world where people aren't crazy Bernie or Trump supporters nothing it going to happen (rightfully or wrongfully)."


AP has reported on most of the major developments (usually after the "far right wing media" like lawnewz.com)

[Edited on July 1, 2016 at 12:06 AM. Reason : .]

7/1/2016 12:06:11 AM

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More like lolznewz amirite???

7/1/2016 12:41:46 AM

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All up to the FBI now.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/07/02/us/politics/loretta-lynch-hillary-clinton-email-server.html?_r=1&referer=

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"Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch plans to announce on Friday that she will accept whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton’s personal email server, a Justice Department official said. Her decision removes the possibility that a political appointee will overrule investigators in the case."

7/1/2016 9:12:47 AM

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how does everyone feel about her private meeting with president clinton?

7/1/2016 9:38:14 AM

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If they were meeting to do something illegal or unethical do you think you would know about it?

Bad judgement concerning the optics of it? Sure

7/1/2016 9:45:19 AM

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"Attorney General Loretta E. Lynch plans to announce on Friday that she will accept whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges "


i really want to be all:

IT'S HAPPENING

but i dont believe her so we'll see

7/1/2016 9:48:37 AM

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So, if there are no charges it will be only because Lynch intervened? You're really setting yourself up to be disappointed.

7/1/2016 9:55:52 AM

dtownral
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i mean jesus christ, does the AG not have an assistant who could say "Madam Attorney General, meeting him here will look highly inappropriate"

7/1/2016 9:56:38 AM

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Didn't they say he did it unexpectedly?

7/1/2016 10:03:59 AM

beatsunc
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^^^we know she had over 1000 classified emails on a sever in her closet. of course there should be charges if no political intervention

[Edited on July 1, 2016 at 10:04 AM. Reason : d]

7/1/2016 10:04:32 AM

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