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The Coz
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"Hmmm not great how the person running the covid task force thinks it silly to live past 75
https://www.technologyreview.com/2019/08/21/238642/a-doctor-and-medical-ethicist-argues-life-after-75-is-not-worth-living/amp/"

Nobody tell Biden!

[Edited on November 12, 2020 at 6:59 AM. Reason : Page 16]

11/12/2020 6:57:36 AM

Geppetto
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He makes a lot of valid points in that article.

I also think it is ridiculous to criticize him for that claim, which he clarifies and then supports based on lots of information and then defend all the weird, antagonistic, and divisive shit Trump says.

Not saying that anyone here is doing that but the right wing media certainly is.

11/12/2020 10:38:28 AM

rwoody
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Yea i'm coming from the left. That interview is jist particularly bad for Covid since the right argument is we are working too hard to protect the elderly and disabled at the expense of the children. I could see the Tex lt Gov giving the same interview. Also the general idea that retirees aren't living a meaningful life is kinda sad. I'm sure those people's families find their life very meaningful and the people themselves love their lives of leisure.

11/12/2020 12:49:09 PM

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"Don't know shit about Klain but he's being praised across the spectrum"


https://www.politico.com/blogs/ben-smith/2011/04/klain-to-join-centrist-third-way-034933

No one on the left should be praising Klain. I guess they're just happy it isn't Rahm.

11/12/2020 2:00:30 PM

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Shaun King is getting concerned about people Biden is hiring

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.799605230078397/3687493454622879

https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.799605230078397/3684910528214505

11/12/2020 3:03:25 PM

horosho
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If Biden has such a good COVID response plan, why doesn't he unveil it now and start getting it implemented? Theres nothing that says you have to be in government to release a plan or even get on the phone with all 50 governors and try to convince them to implement it.

If our COVID struggles really were as simple as lack of central leadership, Biden would be complicit for wasting these critical months before starting that COVID leadership.

[Edited on November 15, 2020 at 12:59 PM. Reason : its almost like theres no silver bullet]

11/15/2020 12:58:20 PM

The Coz
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He is not yet imbued with the power and authority of the Presidency. Additionally, half of the country is denying that he is the President-Elect.

11/15/2020 1:13:36 PM

A Tanzarian
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Hey guys! Let's use strawmen to place blame for the current President's failings on to the future President (who we haven't yet acknowledged as the future President). Wouldn't that be great?

11/15/2020 1:56:05 PM

horosho
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The president doesn't have authority over the states when it comes to enforcing policies that haven't been passed into law so what authority is Biden waiting to gain in regards to preventing COVID deaths. Its not really a strawman because Joe Biden has said over and over again that the deaths were because of Trump and future deaths would be because of Trump. He's continuously said that he has a plan to get everyone to wear masks so why wait? Why let 200,000 more people die just because you aren't the president yet? What specific power is he waiting for?

[Edited on November 15, 2020 at 3:18 PM. Reason : presidential power to force people to wear masks doesn't exist and he knew people didn't know that]

11/15/2020 3:16:46 PM

The Coz
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You're being stupid.

11/15/2020 6:58:42 PM

rwoody
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"Joe Biden just tapped Cedric Richmond to serve as liaison between the business community and climate activists.

He is one of the largest recipients of oil & gas money.

Richmond's district has 7 of the 10 most air-polluted census tracts in America and he still won't address it! https://t.co/t30DV9gBee"


Not great

11/17/2020 8:08:57 AM

Geppetto
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Just another radical left move by socialist Joseph Stalin Biden.

11/17/2020 12:01:58 PM

rwoody
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One artifact of intense sarcasm is that nobody knows what point, if there is any, you are trying to make

11/17/2020 1:20:31 PM

horosho
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I can't even bring myself to criticize Biden for doing exactly what everyone should have known he would do. He literally said something about this during one of the primary debates. The lie that he would be pushed to the left after the election never should have been believed. He is who he is and these appointments are spot on character. Climate denial with more steps.

11/17/2020 1:34:09 PM

rwoody
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I just spit out my drink in shock at that statement, wow. The absolute worst person on this message board expects the worst out of something and tells people not to hope. Shocking!

You're like the "better things arent possible" centrist tweet but from some weird far left/far right/nihilist combo zone

11/17/2020 1:46:55 PM

horosho
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Me identifying Biden as a centrist is not me being a centrist. You guys have to stop attributing my explanations of the beliefs of politicians to my own beliefs.

Better things are possible but we get swindled into electing assholes. The only way things can get better is if we make them better. You can't keep electing the people who created the problems and expect them to suddenly wake up one day and solve the problems they got rich off creating. At some point, you can't even blame them. They revealed who they were and people voted for them. Activists campaigned for them. They let fear of Trump force them to sacrifice everything else.

And we are actually getting to the point where there will literally be no hope. I've been working to convince people to demand change for 10 years but the window is closing.

11/17/2020 1:54:11 PM

rwoody
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I didn't say you were a centrist learn to read please

11/17/2020 2:00:49 PM

horosho
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Ok well can you explain what you are saying without loaded political terms and reference to a tweet i don't know about?

Also, expecting the fossil fuel industry to do very little to address climate change is not "expecting the worse". Its realism. You can't work with them on this. They have to be forced.

[Edited on November 17, 2020 at 4:37 PM. Reason : we have different definitions of political terms so I literally cannot understand what you mean]

11/17/2020 4:36:15 PM

rwoody
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No

[Edited on November 17, 2020 at 4:42 PM. Reason : Or rather, I can but I won't ]

11/17/2020 4:42:08 PM

horosho
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to equate Biden not being able to save us from Trump with saying "better things aren't possible".

[Edited on November 17, 2020 at 4:59 PM. Reason : j]

11/17/2020 4:58:12 PM

Geppetto
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Political spectrum is not the only thing that determines saving.

Right now I'd take 19th century robber barron Mitt Romney to save me from Trump.

11/17/2020 9:43:24 PM

bdmazur
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The political compass is a scam anyway to make everyone think they're a libertarian.

11/18/2020 2:05:20 PM

0EPII1
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https://www.dailyposter.com/p/news-bidens-first-climate-appointment

Biden’s First Climate Appointment Is A Fossil Fuel Industry Ally

The White House’s liaison to the climate movement will reportedly be Rep. Cedric Richmond — who has raked in big money from the fossil fuel industry while voting to help oil and gas companies.

11/18/2020 2:17:14 PM

rwoody
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The 4 months away didn't spend up oeps news cycle I see (or maybe I'm being trolled???)

[Edited on November 18, 2020 at 2:48 PM. Reason : Or ability to read previous posts ]

11/18/2020 2:47:52 PM

horosho
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Think of the compass as where your answers to the questions that happened to be on the survey are instead of where you are entirely. Of course, its not going to be completely accurate and a different set of questions could change the results. The thing is, the questions are usually designed based on policies that are big ticket election issues or policies the executive branch has a major impact on driving so it works pretty well for presidential candidates and less for "people".

With that said, from what I've seen, most westerners do hold values that are vaguely libertarian. I ain't never seen two authoritarian best friends. The funny part is that US constitution is a libertarian document and the libertarian party is most closely aligned with the founding fathers. The problem is, people can shit on that party but can't be honest about their disdain for the founding fathers who, imo, were racist pieces of shit anyway. People also are completely blind to the existence of the 3rd quadrant and conclude anyone from the quadrant must be a troll.

[Edited on November 18, 2020 at 3:46 PM. Reason : k]

11/18/2020 3:45:07 PM

rwoody
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Jfc. At this rate Trump will be president either 1/21 or 1/25. Show some balls
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"Joe Biden looks weak, indecisive and a push-over with regards to forcing @GSAEmily to get it going with lives on the line when his own team is reportedly discouraging @OversightDems from being proactive https://t.co/M4f6c22cl2 https://t.co/mtny6nMrpD"

11/18/2020 7:10:58 PM

A Tanzarian
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I prefer headlines about Trump's failing lawsuits to any sort of 'Biden and Trump Battle to Determine Election Outcome' both sides bullshit that would be the alternative. There's no need to validate Trump's bitch-fit-cum-fundraising-grift by spending time on it.

[Edited on November 20, 2020 at 8:16 PM. Reason : ]

11/20/2020 8:12:07 PM

StTexan
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^agreed with a tarzan

11/20/2020 8:21:58 PM

rwoody
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Biden is using it for fundraising too. And who cares about headlines? It's about protecting democracy. If you don't hold these people accountable theyll just keep getting more brazen. Nixon leads to W leads to Trump leads to......

Biden himself doesn't even have to lift a finger just tell the house to do their fucking jobs

11/20/2020 11:48:45 PM

A Tanzarian
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I agree: people need to be held to account, the Legislative Branch needs to (re)assert itself, and what may follow Trump is worrisome.

I disagree that headlines don't matter. Current headlines are that Trump is failing to make his case for fraud. There's no Dem-vs-Rep, trial-of-the-century narrative about Trump and Biden battling it out in court. Trump excels at using spectacle to distract from substance (videri quam esse 4 lyfe mofos!). Not engaging his fraud claims denies him the spectacle and exposes the lack of substance. It appears to be working.

With respect to the GSA, I'm not sure what aggressive action will accomplish. My understanding is that the failure to certify Biden as President Elect is a violation of norms but not a legal violation. If/when the GSA does certify Biden, there's still no reason to expect the rest of the administration to be cooperative with a transition. At the moment they're behaving like evicted tenants in a shitty apartment.

I do think the transition should be thoroughly documented and published with expected transition processes codified.

11/21/2020 2:59:32 PM

A Tanzarian
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GSA has determined that Biden is president-elect.

11/23/2020 6:56:00 PM

The Coz
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Wrong. They ascertained it.

11/23/2020 7:51:38 PM

A Tanzarian
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touché

11/23/2020 8:02:00 PM

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