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Cabbage
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Everybody stand back--This just might be horosho's wet dream:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/tucker-carlson-in-2024-republicans-see-a-frontrunner/ar-BB16gXUX?ocid=msedgntp

7/5/2020 6:59:58 AM

bbehe
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I think the Republicans will be extremely divided in 2024, I could see him pulling a Trump and winning without getting a majority of votes in the early contests

7/5/2020 7:54:31 AM

TreeTwista10
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but can he beat Chris Cuomo in the general?

[Edited on July 5, 2020 at 12:21 PM. Reason : Cuomo/Lemon 2024]

7/5/2020 12:21:18 PM

horosho
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I rarely agree with Tucker and simply appreciate his straightfowardness. Tucker's policies would be consistent and make more sense than anyone else's so far but that doesn't mean I'd like him. My wet dream is literally AOC.

7/5/2020 2:28:56 PM

rwoody
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Looks like he is on the Presidential track

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"SCOOP: I can confirm that Fox News knew details of sexual harassment allegations against Tucker Carlson four days before he announced his "pre-planned vacation" last week. New in @Salon https://t.co/tYaywjWvXS"

7/20/2020 9:41:58 PM

daaave
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" Tucker's policies would be consistent and make more sense than anyone else's so far but that doesn't mean I'd like him."


How would they be consistent and make sense?

7/20/2020 10:51:08 PM

horosho
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Have you watched his show? He's consistently conservative and populist even when it means calling out Trump or republican congress specifically. There are times when he stands in contrast with the rest of the hosts on Fox. He wouldn't feed the military industrial complex or corporate revolving door. You can't just put the whole right into one box.

[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 12:32 AM. Reason : and although i'm not a free market guy. free market is a helluva lot better than what we have now]

[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 12:33 AM. Reason : where one or 2 companies run every industry and the government regulators ]

7/21/2020 12:07:17 AM

marko
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lol wut

he's another lame-ass bootlicking racist clone

the only consistency he has is acting like he's some kind of goddamned victim

7/21/2020 10:41:42 AM

Cherokee
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He's a piece of human shit.

7/21/2020 11:16:23 AM

horosho
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Just curious. Do you watch his show or just clips of his show curated by someone else? Be honest.

[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 11:30 AM. Reason : Can you see any contrast between him and hannity? Their shows are back to back]

7/21/2020 11:26:15 AM

NyM410
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Hannity hires less racist staff.

7/21/2020 12:16:41 PM

A Tanzarian
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That's some faint praise.

7/21/2020 12:48:24 PM

Cherokee
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Carlson and Hannity both run their shows and present their arguments without even a hint of logical, rational or scientific reasoning. They make zero attempts to gather all facts and to the extent they gather any facts at all they dismiss any that conflict with the narrative they are trying to convey.

If at anytime there's an attempt by either one of them to "be balanced" they do it with such a lack of intellectual rigor that you'd almost think they were running parody shows except for the fact that nothing they say is funny and they constantly look furious when "reporting."

And regarding their narratives I'm not even necessarily suggesting they actually believe their narratives - just that they work tirelessly to adhere to whatever Fox News has established will bring their viewers in.

CNN does this too but to a significantly less degree. In fact CNN is more guilty of just not reporting something rather than lacing a report with flat out lies.

They are intellectually dishonest human beings and have strong influence over voters. They further the divide between Republicans and Democrats significantly and intentionally. They make America a worse place because of this. For these reasons, they are both human pieces of shit.

[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 1:04 PM. Reason : a]

7/21/2020 12:59:02 PM

daaave
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Also populist conservatism is an oxymoron. Any leftist who doesn't understand that is worthless.

7/21/2020 2:25:28 PM

Cabbage
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"Just curious. Do you watch his show or just clips of his show curated by someone else? Be honest."


As a matter of fact I do. I have noticed that Tucker's go to rhetorical flourish is to repeat his opponent's position....in a funny voice. You're a fucking moron if that convinces you he's using logical arguments.

7/21/2020 3:00:20 PM

horosho
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^You're being vague. I'll just have to post actual examples and we can break them down.
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"Also populist conservatism is an oxymoron. Any leftist who doesn't understand that is worthless."

This is wild. What do you mean? What definitions are you using?
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"a political approach that strives to appeal to ordinary people who feel that their concerns are disregarded by established elite groups."


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the holding of political views that favor free enterprise, private ownership, and socially conservative ideas."


Where is the oxymoron?

There are "ordinary" conservatives and "elite" conservatives. You are saying that free enterprise, private ownership and socially conservative ideas CANNOT appeal to "ordinary" people when those conservative principles are literally what the country is known for. Have you even been to a flyover state? I think you have to get out of cities and coasts to know it. anti-Abortion is an example of conservative populism. Climate change denial is another one. Basically lower and middle class christians who think their way of life is being threatened. These people fear change and other and they don't have a strong affinity for Science.

IMO, a leftist should be able to identify lack of good education, capitalism-induced scarcity mindset, and media/propaganda as the causes for ordinary harboring passionate support for conservative ideals, but denying the existence of opposition does not somehow increase your worth.


[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 3:58 PM. Reason : k]

7/21/2020 3:49:15 PM

bbehe
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lol you guys really engaging Earl on whether or not Tucker Fucking Carlson isn't a massive piece of shit?

7/21/2020 3:56:48 PM

daaave
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Fascist elites like Tucker Carlson don't actually give a shit about social conservatism. It's just a means of riling up their base and drumming up votes through Supreme Court cases. And economic conservatism is populist only insofar as they've convinced a large segment of America that individualism and "free enterprise" is good for them and not a handout to the super wealthy. I take the position that populism is only legitimate if its honestly meant to improve peoples' lives. Telling them what to believe through right-wing media and then acting on their regurgitated, self-harming bullshit doesn't qualify as populism.

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"He wouldn't feed the military industrial complex or corporate revolving door"


This is also incredibly dumb. Capitalism in the 21st century is synonymous with imperialism. Capital is compelled to spread, and we're already global. There's no going back. You're a dupe.

In conclusion, fuck off fascist sympathizer.

7/21/2020 4:09:03 PM

horosho
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" And economic conservatism is populist only insofar as they've convinced a large segment of America that individualism and "free enterprise" is good for them and not a handout to the super wealthy. I take the position that populism is only legitimate if its honestly meant to improve peoples' lives. Telling them what to believe through right-wing media and then acting on their regurgitated, self-harming bullshit doesn't qualify as populism."

Yeah that is basically what I explained except you changed the definition of populism. Thats fine. We are saying the same thing two different ways here. re "propaganda"

Being objective isn't "sympathizing". Understanding someone's views does not mean you agree with them. I'm ready because I already went through this when I was explaining terrorism as blowback. Is everyone on the right a piece of shit?

^,^^
Name the furthest right figure who is not a "piece of shit".

[Edited on July 21, 2020 at 4:56 PM. Reason : lets play a game]

7/21/2020 4:51:37 PM

Cabbage
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"You're being vague."


How so? If you truly watch and pay attention to Tucker then you'll see exactly what I am talking about. Not vague at all.

7/21/2020 6:15:00 PM

moron
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^^ sowell

7/21/2020 7:47:18 PM

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