FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
I know you can do this in about five minutes.
We've got a couple of motherfuckers farming the hundreds of existing, unused accounts to use them as aliases. Suspending the alias doesn't stop them.
First, assign more robust default passwords to new accounts. This will limit the growth of the pool.
Second, design some kind of definition of susceptible unused accounts—hasn't logged in for at least three months and has fewer than 100 posts, maybe—and forcibly change the passwords using the new password generation algorithm I just called for. If any of the real users ever feel the need to log in legitimately, they can use the password recovery feature.
This shit's got to stop.
[Edited on July 7, 2005 at 12:58 PM. Reason : ...] 7/7/2005 12:57:51 PM |
moonman All American 8685 Posts user info edit post |
That's a damned good suggestion. If you haven't already, you should send it to them as a pm, too, because this thread is going to get buried under a pile of suspend/unsuspend threads in no time. 7/7/2005 1:15:33 PM |
gunzz IS NÚMERO UNO 68205 Posts user info edit post |
another great suggestion that will go in the "inbox" never to be looked at again 7/7/2005 1:23:06 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
4th 7/7/2005 1:41:41 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
i think they'd notice if someone made a password cracker... i dont think its that 7/7/2005 3:09:15 PM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
you don't really need a sophisticated cracker to figure one out, just a brute force approach and time, since they're so short and simple i mean
[Edited on July 7, 2005 at 3:25 PM. Reason : sdfgd] 7/7/2005 3:25:14 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
yeah and im sure they'd notice the tens of thousands of invalid logins 7/7/2005 4:51:33 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
what
you mean like they notice every-goddamn-thing else on this site
EXCEPT WHEN IT'S TIME FOR ME TO PAY MY PREMIUM
fuckin' bullshit 7/7/2005 4:54:37 PM |
Incognegro Suspended 4172 Posts user info edit post |
each account would take 8788 failed logins, on average
the login page is 4056 bytes, each login returns you to the login page so that's 4056 bytes total per attempt
at 4 accounts an hour, that'd be 35152 logins per hour, 9.8 per second, times 4056 = 39748.8 bytes per second, or 99.151gb/month-- probably around 100-200$ a month, depending on their plan
I think they'd notice that pretty quickly 7/8/2005 12:22:22 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
what is the 9.8?
is that last figure only for 4 attempts?
if it's for more then your analysis may be right for brute force, but what about someone systematically narrowing down the possibilities, by looking at joined dates compared with those for accounts of known passwords for instance...if that figure is for only 4 attempts then they would prob notice regardless, like you said
[Edited on July 8, 2005 at 8:29 AM. Reason : dsaf] 7/8/2005 8:27:40 AM |
chickenhead
47844 Posts user info edit post |
i guarantee one thing - any person who'd ever be capable or pathetic enough to want to take over unused accounts so they can use them as an alias, has already posted a comment in this very thread.
besides me
or frosh
7/8/2005 11:27:26 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
add me to that list, i was just backing up frosh 7/8/2005 11:40:20 AM |
chickenhead
47844 Posts user info edit post |
k 7/8/2005 11:42:21 AM |
sNuwPack All American 6519 Posts user info edit post |
no seroiusly dude, DO IT 7/8/2005 1:14:52 PM |
puck_it All American 15446 Posts user info edit post |
plz do. 7/8/2005 7:17:30 PM |
BunkerBuster All American 19652 Posts user info edit post |
[concur] 7/9/2005 12:35:57 PM |
nutsmackr All American 46641 Posts user info edit post |
shut the fuck up emily
no one likes you
then again, you think everyone is joshnloaded, jackleg, or scrumples. I think the drugs have made you paranoid. 7/9/2005 7:26:01 PM |
ECUAlumni All American 2420 Posts user info edit post |
SELECT RIGHT(NEWID(), 6) 7/9/2005 8:52:11 PM |
Weeeees All American 23730 Posts user info edit post |
this would help alot 7/9/2005 8:53:05 PM |
chickenhead
47844 Posts user info edit post |
eat a dick jason - you're the one that ever came to morphine uninvited & not one person will miss you b/c you think you know it all so bad that you fuck up too much. the aliases i've said were those faggots are 100% true & i wouldn't have said so w/o having proof.
if no one likes me - i guess i have a good # of friends that fake it. oh wait, that makes no sense. tww isn't where most of my friends exist. 7/9/2005 8:55:40 PM |
CrazyJ The Boss 2453 Posts user info edit post |
The system locks an address out after 10 failed attempts 7/11/2005 4:19:44 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
Then that must not be the hole. But there is a hole, and it needs plugging. 7/11/2005 4:21:02 PM |
chickenhead
47844 Posts user info edit post |
i doubt it permanently locks anyone out after 10 failed logins.
weak passwords may be the key. it's a moot point after-the-fact ( unless A LOT of unused accounts are disabled ) but it may help if new users are required to have a stronger password w/ a symbol or # in the mix. i'm not sure how hard that is to set-up.
& i just noticed that you are allowed to change your password to one as low as 3 characters in length!! maybe there could be a minimum length of 8 characters required? 7/11/2005 7:50:21 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
if you really want to find the hole... think about it a little longer 7/11/2005 8:07:32 PM |
FroshKiller All American 51911 Posts user info edit post |
That won't do much good. Hacking and all that is beyond me, I wouldn't know where to start. 7/11/2005 8:21:01 PM |
chickenhead
47844 Posts user info edit post |
the hole is:
it's just a message board - crazyj & jake do not post enough to ever be annoyed by aliases. therefore, the security of user accounts isn't a pressing issue for them, seeing as it's ultimately the responsibility of the person who registered for the account to use a smart password. it's not like they are running a system full of personal or confidential records of individuals on it - it's just a stupid ass message board. 7/11/2005 8:21:16 PM |
jackleg All American 170957 Posts user info edit post |
you sure take it seriously
dyke! 7/11/2005 11:08:56 PM |
BigMan157 no u 103354 Posts user info edit post |
proxies like whoa 7/12/2005 12:07:45 AM |