Ah, the memories.....





I remember studying for exams in spring '96 in the D.H. Hill Library west wing (above the atrium). It was a great place to study--big tables, very quiet, and oh yeah, you could smoke!

I remember thinking, "Man, college is awesome!--they care a lot about providing for student differences and encouraging an environment of equal opportunity. Even the smokers have an indoor and air-conditioned/heated place to study quietly....."

Little did I know, it would all come to an end, soon thereafter.

http://www.lib.ncsu.edu/administration/publications/NLarchives/NL.vol.24/NL.24.1.pdf

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"D.H. Library Now Smoke-Free On August 1, 1996, the D. H. Hill Library became a totally smoke-free building. Before that time, smoking had been allowed in the study area behind the reserve room in the Erdahl-Cloyd Wing. During the course of the fall semester, however, major organizational and physical changes related to the services of the Reserve Room and the Periodicals Service Center will redefine the use of the area. Those two services will be merged and the current periodicals collection will move to the first floor of the Erdahl-Cloyd Wing. As a result of these changes, there will no longer be any part of the building that does not house a major portion of the collection, which must be protected from potential fire hazards."

"potential fire hazards".
Right. I'm sure that the "anti-smoking nazis" had nothing to do with it...

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Any of you Old Schoolers remember other indoor smoking sections?
(other than dorms….)

7/27/2005 7:38:15 PM

Yeah, that was an accident waiting to happen.

7/27/2005 8:32:57 PM

I didn't know about the library.

Apparently, that room in Fountain Dining Hall with the ice cream machine in it used to be a smoking section. That was even before my time.

7/27/2005 10:24:31 PM

I hear you can't even jack off in there anymore.

7/28/2005 12:36:26 AM

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""potential fire hazards". "

oh shut the fuck up.... next time you flick a butt out the window of your pickup how about you fuck yourself with a nice rusty rake...

7/28/2005 1:41:07 AM

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""potential fire hazards". Right. I'm sure that the "anti-smoking nazis" had nothing to do with it..."

listen chump, as a smoker and library worker I will tell you that indeed smoking is a fire hazard. not only that, it is a hazard to the materials.

7/28/2005 1:57:28 AM

smoke+bugs+water

bad bad bad for books and stuff

7/28/2005 9:14:47 AM

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"oh shut the fuck up.... next time you flick a butt out the window of your pickup how about you fuck yourself with a nice rusty rake..."

Thanks for assuming that I litter, just because I smoke. In fact, the ashtray in my car is full of butts, as I never flick them out the window. Also, I have a collection of "pocket ashtrays" that I use when camping, hiking or engaging in some other outdoor activity. In the rare case that I don't plan ahead, I've even put properly extinguished cigarette butts in my pocket for later disposal (I do this with other litter I find, as well.) Just because 90% of smokers are worthless littering assholes doesn't mean I am. Get a fucking clue.


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Regarding the fire hazard issue: When they allowed smoking, people weren’t walking around the bookstacks or other materials puffing on cigarettes. There were no couches, and no carpets--just large tables with ashtrays for sitting and smoking. It was safe, and the only materials in "danger" were the ones that the individual smokers were using. I am unaware of any reports of fires or material damage resulting from smoking in D.H. Hill. Anyone know of any?

I'm not going to say that indoor smoking doesn't constitute at least some fire hazard--of course it does--but if the hazard is properly managed/controlled, (separate room(s) with fire-proof materials, similar to many found in airports.....) then I believe that the freedom it provides the 25% students/faculty whom smoke outweighs the need for protection from what, if properly managed, would be a very insignificant risk....
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"…that room in Fountain Dining Hall with the ice cream machine in it used to be a smoking section."

I’ve never heard that, but it does look kind of like one.....

7/28/2005 10:58:46 AM

why take the chance of losing millions of dollars in books when a smoker can walk outside for the five minutes it takes to light up?

7/28/2005 11:13:03 AM

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"I hear you can't even jack off in there anymore."

Haha, are you joking?

That would be kinda crazy if they had a wanking patrol and got people busted

7/28/2005 11:17:04 AM

My sister-in-law attended NCSU during that time, she said that the Erdahl-Cloyd Wing was commonly referred to as the Erdahl-Smoky Wing.

7/28/2005 11:24:53 AM

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"Regarding the fire hazard issue: When they allowed smoking, people weren’t walking around the bookstacks or other materials puffing on cigarettes. There were no couches, and no carpets--just large tables with ashtrays for sitting and smoking. It was safe, and the only materials in "danger" were the ones that the individual smokers were using. I am unaware of any reports of fires or material damage resulting from smoking in D.H. Hill. Anyone know of any? I'm not going to say that indoor smoking doesn't constitute at least some fire hazard--of course it does--but if the hazard is properly managed/controlled, (separate room(s) with fire-proof materials, similar to many found in airports.....) then I believe that the freedom it provides the 25% students/faculty whom smoke outweighs the need for protection from what, if properly managed, would be a very insignificant risk...."

listen before you start spewing your bullshit. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to protecting books and materials that are found in the library. It has nothing to do with the anti-smoking agenda and more to do with protecting the materials.

7/28/2005 1:44:51 PM

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"Apparently, that room in Fountain Dining Hall with the ice cream machine in it used to be a smoking section. That was even before my time."

holy! i forgot about that.

7/28/2005 7:29:50 PM

im sure the smoke itself is not very good for some of those older books

7/31/2005 12:44:47 PM

How about this. Smoking is fucking disgusting. It smells like shit, and if you want to do it, that's cool, but I'd prefer you not make the books smell like shit.

7/31/2005 2:07:50 PM

I don't care what the books smell like. Substances other than smoke make the books smell horrid. However, smoke is by far more damaging to the books than most other substances.

7/31/2005 4:07:09 PM