toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
after riding the bike for a good portion of the day i went to my dorm room to take a shower, come back and i turn the key to the on position.. headlights come on and u hear the bike getting ready to start (it's a wining sound bikes make b4 u start them) well all of the sudden the lights go out and that's all she wrote it wont turn over bc there is no electrical poewr to the bike. the lights didnt dim or anything just shut off.. weird as hell..
it's a carb'd 97gsxr600. i dont think it's the battery, i guess ill check the fuses tomorrow? they are under the seat i think? 8/27/2005 2:19:17 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
I had a shorted stator that kept taking out rectifiers
check resistance on the stator windings 8/27/2005 2:27:58 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
the only prob is the bike is in front of owen hall ... stuck there this sounds like it's going to be expensive FUCK. 8/27/2005 2:43:42 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
whining is the electric fuel pump. sounds like something electrical. check the battery connections first, then make sure the battery has a charge. then fuses. 8/27/2005 2:47:40 AM |
theDuke866 All American 52840 Posts user info edit post |
if it was a honda, i'd say rectifier...
but i don't know. still could be.
but yeah...^ easy, quick, cheap, simple things first. 8/27/2005 4:01:48 AM |
Mark VII All American 2003 Posts user info edit post |
pull the battery and take to to Advane have them check it, that shoul dbe first, and also cause it's free...
now if it is good then more to the rectifer, they go bad on sportbike from time to time especially in the summer when it's hot cause they can't dissapate heat well..
My bet is on the battery, they don't last forever 8/27/2005 10:21:21 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
i mean wouldnt it just dim. the bike just lost power. also kind of weird that same day the bike turned off twice on me like it just lost power, this was right after i started it up, i checked the kick stand to make sure it was ok. and it was ok so i just started the bitch up again and got on my way. yeah it gets really hot during the day time.
thanks you guys for the help
[Edited on August 27, 2005 at 10:45 AM. Reason : btw] 8/27/2005 10:45:21 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
btw what the hell is a rectifier?, where is it locatedo on the bike?
[Edited on August 27, 2005 at 10:56 AM. Reason : a] 8/27/2005 10:56:39 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
The rectifier is a sealed package of diodes that changes the AC power created by the stator
to a DC level that keeps the battery charged while the bike is running
if it is the rectifier, you gotta find out what caused it to go, i.e. the stator is what caused
mine to blow a diode
if you dont fix the cause, it can and will get very expensive replacing rectifiers and batteries
i know from experience
mine was located on the throttle side of the motorcycle (right side, sitting on the bike), kinda
under the rear fairing, near the seat
just trace the wires from the battery
[Edited on August 27, 2005 at 11:47 AM. Reason : location] 8/27/2005 11:44:44 AM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
i'd check your main ignition fuse, should be near the battery, with the problems you are having, it will be something between the battery post and main ignition relay, which on most bikes is all within about 8 inches of the battery, so it shouldn't be hard to trck down the problem. 8/27/2005 12:03:14 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
i tested the battery at advanced and the machine said it was bad. so i bought a new one. i just added the acid to the new one..and it is being charged at advanced as we speak. i guess the battery was bad? doesnt make sense... im thinking it was that rectifier thing. i found it on my bike it's on the left rear fairing near the rear seat.. was it dumb for me to buy a new battery they said the old one was bad from the test, i saw the machine it said it was bad.
thanks guys
KYle 8/27/2005 5:35:22 PM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
no, you obviously needed a new battery anyway. now we'll see if that was the problem. it's uncommon for a battery to suddenly die like that, but not completely unlikely. 8/27/2005 6:26:39 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
hmmm im getting the battery charged now i hate my bike. 8/27/2005 9:21:39 PM |
zxappeal All American 26824 Posts user info edit post |
No reason to hate a bike for something that happens to damn near EVERYBODY who owns one from time to time.
Most bike batteries have shit for reserve capacity, so too much cranking (i.e. when you run out of gas or fucking flood the damn thing) will run one down in nothing flat. The older the battery is, the easier it runs down. I used to do it all the time on this old Radian I was riding. Ditto for my roommate's old Honda CM450. 8/27/2005 11:18:46 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
hey i know but the bike has fucked up so many times it's not even funny and the guy without the jet kit had the bike and i rode it and it was faster than mine but im not sure about up top, will bputting an exhaust on my bike, header back make it faster bc i th9ink it will.
im npot sure but i hope with the jet kit my bike becomes faster
*warning drunk post *** 8/28/2005 3:32:01 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
a jet kit alone will probably hurt performance
you probably wont notice any significant difference until you get an exhaust
and possibly some type of higher flow air filter (k & n filtercharger is what i have)
i never had to deal with the in between performance stages though, i was lucky
i got my exhaust, jet kit, filter charger and ignition advancing all done at the same time
so there was a huge difference over stock for me 8/28/2005 4:46:32 AM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
^ah ok i hear yah so when that full exhaust comes the bitch will run better. i think it has a k&n on it already, unless the previous owner was a ricer and put that sticker on the clutch cover hah.. i was going to check one day but too lazy to remove all the screws attached to the airbox to open it up. 8/28/2005 1:10:49 PM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
the sticker comes with the filter
yah, that would be dumb to just put a sticker on there 8/28/2005 6:31:33 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
hehe kyle, your bike sucks. Its not playing well. stupid electrical problems now. fuses are fine and the new batt should be charged (unless its not holding the charge). Anyone else have an idea what the problem could be? I didnt have the tools to take the fenders off and look at the wiring. 8/28/2005 6:48:08 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
pfft i know its a piece. 8/28/2005 9:19:29 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
so it was the battry 8/28/2005 9:32:11 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
no it's something else much more expensive 8/28/2005 9:34:31 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
its the new battery, nothing is powered, and yes, we did hook it up the terminals correctly 8/28/2005 10:07:53 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'd check your main ignition fuse, should be near the battery, with the problems you are having, it will be something between the battery post and main ignition relay, which on most bikes is all within about 8 inches of the battery, so it shouldn't be hard to trck down the problem." |
we'll try this a second time, why does no one ever even glance over my advice around here, i'll come by this afternoon and find the problem for you in 10 min or less for a case of beer 8/29/2005 7:55:22 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
looks like you're the one not reading. just break out a multimeter and go from the battery down through the system. you'll find it in a few minutes. it's gotta be somewhere in the main supply like 69 said before it branches off to the starter relay, fuse box, etc. don't overlook the negative side of things either, could be a bad ground.8/29/2005 12:16:41 PM |
69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
more often than not the main gets overlooked, it should be a 25-30 amp one by itself, most people check the accessory fuse box with 4-5 10 amp fuses. 8/29/2005 5:10:35 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
ok fuses werent fine, found a 30 fuse on the right side of the bike next to the recip whatever rectifier. it was blown.. i replaced it.. the bike ran for maybe 30 secs, then shut off agian. started again gave it a lil rev and the fuse blew again doh.. 8/29/2005 8:24:02 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
eh i have some guy who is a friend of a friends fixing it, he has the volmeter thing not me. rofl. 8/29/2005 8:24:46 PM |
sharkwing1 All American 690 Posts user info edit post |
did u check the ignition fuse yet? same thing happened to me but the entire fuse holder melted but the fuse didnt blow...took me forever to figure it out cus the fuse was fine 9/3/2005 6:48:50 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
his bike is working now, the guy came over to take the bike to his garage and someone called the cops on him sayin someone was stealing his bike. haha 9/3/2005 10:29:53 PM |
optmusprimer All American 30318 Posts user info edit post |
thats actually a good thing 9/3/2005 10:35:06 PM |
Incognegro Suspended 4172 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "sounds like something electrical." |
this made the baby jesus 9/3/2005 11:42:54 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "thats actually a good thing" |
yeah, but its kinda funny though9/4/2005 12:02:34 AM |
H8R wear sumthin tight 60155 Posts user info edit post |
OHM OUT THE FUCKING STATOR 9/4/2005 3:21:11 AM |
BigBlueRam All American 16852 Posts user info edit post |
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69 Suspended 15861 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "i'd check your main ignition fuse, should be near the battery, with the problems you are having, it will be something between the battery post and main ignition relay, which on most bikes is all within about 8 inches of the battery, so it shouldn't be hard to trck down the problem." |
Quote : | "ok fuses werent fine, found a 30 fuse on the right side of the bike next to the recip whatever rectifier. it was blown.. i replaced it.. the bike ran for maybe 30 secs, then shut off agian. started again gave it a lil rev and the fuse blew again doh.." |
first time ever anyone has listened to me, i'm tellin ya, i can save you some diagnostic time
seriously though, unplug your voltage regulator, and you should get 25-50 volts ac on each of the three white whires from the engine to ground depending on the rpm, and plug it in if that checks out, and you should have 12.5-14 volts on the dc side on the red and blcsk wires. it sounds like to me it is just a burned up regulator, a shorted stator will not cuase the problem the way you are describing it.9/4/2005 3:53:21 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "his bike is working now" |
he should have listen to you, though9/4/2005 5:27:13 PM |
toyotafj40s All American 8649 Posts user info edit post |
yeah bare wire somewhere i was too lazy to look rofl. 9/4/2005 11:14:02 PM |
JBaz All American 16764 Posts user info edit post |
the amount of money you spent on your bike, you could have gotten a decent 2000+ R6 9/5/2005 2:03:59 PM |
krs3g All American 1499 Posts user info edit post |
if i could forsee the future i would have done that, i dont like r6's u mean a newer gixxer 9/5/2005 4:12:04 PM |