Anyone in Law School on here... especially @ NCCU?? Just curious


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9/13/2005 11:37:56 PM

Law school here, but not at NCCU. Currently at Charleston School of Law. Actually, currently in a Civil Procedure Class (pure torture).

9/14/2005 9:14:03 AM

For those wanting to go to Law School

September 19th
Panel of all North Carolina Law Schools: September 19th 7
7pm in theStudent Senate Chambers, Witherspoon Center. This meeting will provide interested students a unique opportunity to speak to,and interact with representatives from all the North Carolina law schools. We have also invited Elon and Charlotte law schools, both beginning the
accredidation process, as these schools will be accepting candidates for the 2006
class.

Tuesday, November 1st, Talley Student Center 12:00-3:30.
Inter- Institutional Law School Fair: Students from all the surrounding universities and colleges are welcome.No prior registration is required for students. To date 48 law schools have registered for this event. Last year's list can be found on the Career Services website.
http://www.ncsu.edu/career/students/events/lawfair.htm

Workshops on Financial Aid and Personal Statements will be held in the afternoon.

Mary A.Tetro, M.Ed
University Coordinator of Pre-Law Services
Direct:919.515.5830/Main: 919.515.8130
email: mary_tetro@ncsu.edu
(Please put law in subject for Pre Law questions)
Pre Law Website: http://www.ncsu.edu/project/prelaw/

9/14/2005 10:07:35 AM

In law school here, sorry about bing in Civ pro..that so far is my easy class. We just dealing with Diversity subject Matter....

In Reasoning and Writing now myself...


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9/14/2005 10:49:48 AM

hey jbrick... is Charleston ABA approved yet? I heard they were suppossed to get it soon. Also, how do you apply there if they're not on LSDAS?

9/14/2005 3:14:25 PM

ABA is coming to visit at the beginning of October. I'm extremely confident we'll get provisional accredidation this year and full acrredidation next year. Our incoming GPA's and LSATs are higher than A LOT of accredited schools, the financial and overall backing from some high ranking legal professionals is impressive, and the professors and the other faculty are great.

I'm also pretty sure you can still apply through LSDAS. Last year I believe I printed off the application from their website and mailed that in, but I was able to send my transcripts and letters of recommendation through LSDAS. I highly recommend the CSOL...Charleston is amazing and the student/faculty atmosphere is great.

PM me if you have any questions.

9/15/2005 3:50:10 PM

I'm at campbell.

I am so pissed, at UNC they have three classes they can bring an outline in for exams.

I attended a professionalism dinner in October and sat at a Table with an NC App Ct Judge (Aw the bluebook). He said Charleston is being set up to rock SC.

November has totally sucked.


[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 8:07 PM. Reason : I heart torts.]

11/27/2005 8:05:04 PM

^what do you mean by rock SC? and how are you liking it at campbell? harder or easier than you expected?

11/27/2005 9:02:43 PM

Was in DC this past weekend and the new building for the Washington College of Law was looking really sweet. Amazing building-just from the outside. Great profs too.

11/28/2005 8:22:53 PM

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"^what do you mean by rock SC? "

My interpretation...and of course it's slightly biased since I'm attending here...but I've talked to lawyers and judges in SC and NC about it:

The founders and the setup they have down here is top notch. The founders are made up of lawyers and judges with deep deep pockets and A LOT of influence. We've already hired great professors and will be hiring even better ones (took two 20+ year tenured professors from USC in the first year). We've got great relationships with the with the law firms and judges in the area (we have a retired SC supreme court judge sit in on our Property class twice a week to field questions and provide insight). It seems like everyone in the city of Charleston really wants this law school to succeed. We just purchased the Bell South Building (for a cool $25 million...deep pockets) next to our current law school which is huge and will fill our facility needs (which were in question, because our current building can't hold a third class).

And our average GPA's and LSATs for the first two classes were great considered we weren't accredited yet. There's the understanding that once we get provisional accredidation (which should happen in June), that those numbers will sky-rocket. When you combine Charleston (just an amazing place to live) with a great law atmosphere, great faculty and administration...you can see why people think this law school is going to be big.

Again...I'm biased, but I love it down here.

Now back to studying Contracts....

11/29/2005 12:16:36 AM

Its hard as hell. I put at least 8 hours a day outside of class doing work and studying.

Campbell is a great school. The professors know there stuff. My Contracts professor wrote Williston's and helps with the UCC.

Just remember, your better off going to a school in the state you want to practice in.

11/29/2005 10:56:44 AM

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Would just like to add that everyone learns/studies differently. The girls who are 1 and 2 in our second year class are complete opposites. One girl puts in time like Jenn...up to 8 hours a day, briefs every case, does extensive outlines, etc... The other girl just reads the cases, hasn't briefed a case since the first week of law school, and basically just takes notes during class and goes over them at the end of the week (she's smart, but not a genius). I think some people's mind/learning is built for law school...just like some people's minds are built for engineering or english.

I'm currently in between those two methods. I don't do my own briefs, but I read ones already written. I defintely don't put in 8 hours a day, but some days I'll put in 4 or 5 outside of class. We'll see how that works out after my exam grades get back. I just don't want everyone thinking that all law school students study law from 8am to 12pm. Some people do, some people don't. A lot of people are in between. Just don't let that scare you away.

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11/29/2005 12:09:07 PM

It makes a huge difference to get up, go to class and work imbetween (I get four good hours in before 2pm). If you get your work done, you still have an evening to relax. I would study every saturday and sunday, but would go out at night (if you call Buies Creek going out).

We started study groups every night in October to go over what we did in class and the different situations that could occur. It was really productive in breaking down the material and figuring out how it applies.

I am not a fan for briefing. I read the material twice, book brief, and make an outline to take to class. I have something on paper if I am called on and can make any changes during the lecture while I take notes. Sadly, for my contracts class, the professor never goes over anything that is actually in the lexis brief. You would not believe the crap he pulled out of webb v. mcgowin, Mattai, Sheffield, or CAB. We spent three weeks on consideration where most schools spend a day. We are all going to fail, we just are shooting to fail better than the rest of the class

Good luck with exams!

[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 6:42 PM. Reason : K is evil.]

12/1/2005 6:39:33 PM

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12/1/2005 7:30:13 PM

jenn and jbrick... might be a little too personal, but i was wondering what your gpa/major/lsat scores were? i'm looking to apply to both campbell and coc, but i'm worried about my grades primarily. i did fairly well on my lsat, but i'm wondering if my low gpa is going to tank me. you can pm me if you'd like. thanks!

12/1/2005 8:15:11 PM

pm sent

12/2/2005 12:30:59 AM

with a 3.81, what kind of LSATs would I need to get into UNC?
It seems as if i'm going to apply there for sure.

12/2/2005 1:29:25 AM

NCCU Law is a joke

12/2/2005 1:34:49 AM

^^UNC is a GPA whore...so your high GPA is good. I think when I applied last year, UNC's average GPA for 1L's was 3.7-3.75.

I think with a an LSAT in the low 160's you have a decent chance. It's never an exact science, but I would think with a 165 and a 3.81, you're good to get into UNC.

12/2/2005 7:10:50 AM

I'm a 3L at Villanova. Just accepted an offer at a larg-ish Philly firm.

12/2/2005 1:23:37 PM

I just graduated from Washington University last spring. Now I'm working at a big firm in NC.

12/3/2005 3:46:13 PM

Washington University? Is that GW? Washington and Lee? or... where is that? And what law firm are you working for/hours/pay if you don't mind.... I'd LOVE to work in NC, but I'm concerned that not going to a NC school will hurt my chances. thoughts?

12/4/2005 12:11:14 AM

My cousin is in Law School at NCCU. He likes it, but I can see how hard it is over there. Mad reading, mad assignments.

12/4/2005 2:37:09 AM

Washington U is in St Louis and a very good school. Partial, where are you working?

Depends on where you go and where you want to work. I have a few friends that had trouble getting summer internships in NC from an out of state school. The firms would not come for On Campus Interviews at that particular very prestigous school. Some would have resume drops and others he just had to send materials out to. He did end up with a great job that i would kill for. He just had to work a little harder to get it.

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12/4/2005 7:43:11 PM

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"Washington University? Is that GW? Washington and Lee? or... where is that? And what law firm are you working for/hours/pay if you don't mind.... I'd LOVE to work in NC, but I'm concerned that not going to a NC school will hurt my chances. thoughts? "

Washington University in St. Louis. As long as you do well in law school you will have no trouble coming back to work here. However, you will have to be proactive. There wasn't a single NC firm that interviewed on my campus.

As for the firm, it is one of the largest in NC but I rather not post anymore than that on the board. I work between 45-50 hours a week. PM me and I'll discuss it more with you.

1/22/2006 7:33:25 PM

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1/22/2006 7:54:21 PM

my sister went to law school at Richmond Univ. in VA. she said the hardest part about being out of state was that you missed certain things for the NC bar. However if you study hard for it (which you should anyway) you should do well. She passed on the first try, one of her classmates did not.

1/22/2006 8:27:15 PM

^ I don't think that should be a concern when picking a law school. Most law students do not learn in law school what they need to know for the bar exam. Bar/bri teaches you what to study for and all of the NC distinctions. Just give up the summer after law school (really its only bad the last three weeks prior to the exam) and you'll do just fine.

1/22/2006 10:15:05 PM

^I concur in part and dissent in some. I am a 1L at Central (NCCU) and know some people at various other schools in state and out. Where you study can have a big influence on the law you learn. Most Professors in a school still practice in some form or fashion, thus have to rely on the law in the state they reside and work. So alot of times you do learn more about the Law in the state you studying. But as you said, the summer after Law School is when you put in your time to prepare for the bar.


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1/25/2006 8:15:00 AM

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"NCCU Law is a joke"

Your kidding right? Yeah you are...


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1/25/2006 8:18:27 AM

what were your majors as an undergraduate. I was just wondering because someone told me that alot of people with math degrees are going to law school

1/25/2006 11:24:47 AM

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"Most Professors in a school still practice in some form or fashion, thus have to rely on the law in the state they reside and work. So alot of times you do learn more about the Law in the state you studying. But as you said, the summer after Law School is when you put in your time to prepare for the bar. "

This depends entirely on the school. Most professors at top schools do not continue to practice once they enter academia, and because those schools tend to have students from all over the country, they teach the law generally (and usually with a heavy dose of theory) as opposed to teaching the law of a particular jurisdiction.

My school taught the majority rule and the majority-minority rules in most subjects. I learned NC law (and my friends learned IL, MO, CA, NY, GA, TX, WA, etc law respectively) during Bar/Bri. Other schools, like Campbell and NCCU tend to teach NC law, but that is because most of their graduates stay in the state, at least initially.

Plus the NC bar tests something like 25 subjects. You cannot and will not take a class in each of these subjects. Better to go where you want and take the classes that interest you, and worry about passing the bar when you graduate.

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"what were your majors as an undergraduate. I was just wondering because someone told me that alot of people with math degrees are going to law school"

I started out as CPE/EE and switched to Economics.

Physcis, Math, Philosophy and Economics majors have the best average LSAT scores. However, I wouldn't pick a major based soley on that statistic. I think part of that is the type of person those majors attract and part is indeed the type of logic based analysis required of the students. Schools do care about your GPA so pick something you like so that you will do well.

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1/25/2006 6:19:30 PM

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"what were your majors as an undergraduate. I was just wondering because someone told me that alot of people with math degrees are going to law school"

Business Major here focus in Marketing...


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1/26/2006 8:11:14 AM

Business major here also, with a focus in marketing.

I've also recently talked to a lawyer over Christmas break who's passed the bar in 7 states (works for a HUGE company), and he said NC's bar was the toughest and is suppose to be one of the top 5 hardest bars in the country (don't know where he got that information). So I guess it might be in your best interest to attend a Campbell or NCCU where they teach mostly towards the NC Bar. But I would hate for that to keep me from going to a school I really wanted to go to.

1/26/2006 9:36:34 AM

I have a couple friends who went yo Univ of Miami Law School and passed FL bar. They want to practice in NC, but say the NC bar is pretty tough, one of the more tougher ones...Not sure about how tough, but I will let you know in 2.5 years



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1/26/2006 8:18:10 PM

Graduated from UGA Law in 2005, passed the Bar, opened my own practice.. and glory to God, just won my first case!

1/26/2006 10:03:12 PM

^Congrats, thats great!

I graduated in 2005 also, passed the NC Bar, work at a firm in Raleigh

1/26/2006 10:10:09 PM

thanks!

1/27/2006 4:25:47 AM

Keep up the good work, look fwd to seeing you in court sometime...I should be done and out and passing the bar in 2008...


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1/27/2006 8:32:08 AM

Informational meeting for all interested students
Friday, February 3rd from 4:00pm to 5:30pm
Tucker Classroom

Florida State University The College of Law's
15th annual Summer for Undergraduates Program May 22 - June 16, 2006
(web information about this program)
http://www.law.fsu.edu/summer_undergraduates/index.html
For fourteen years FSU College of Law has sponsored a rigorous
four-week summer program for undergraduate students who are interested
in learning more about law school and the legal profession.

The program is designed to help undergraduate students direct their
remaining time in college to best prepare for law school. Freshmen,
sophomores and juniors from all backgrounds are invited to apply. We
particularly welcome students from groups that are historically
underrepresented in the legal profession.

Sixty students will be selected to participate in this year's
program. The Florida State University College of Law provides room and
board, course materials, and a $500 stipend to all participants.
Students are only responsible for their travel to and from Tallahassee.


Mary A.Tetro, M.Ed
University Coordinator of Pre-Law Services
57 Tucker 515.5830
http://www.ncsu.edu/project/prelaw/
email: mary_tetro@ncsu.edu (put Law in the subject line of the email, please)

1/30/2006 9:30:17 AM

how big of a factor is GPA in comparison to LSAT scores when schools look at potential candidates? my gpa is god awful currently, but am most certain i won't struggle much with the LSAT (plays to my strengths tremendously)

2/1/2006 7:59:15 PM

Law schools generally look for what will make a person a good lawyer. They are not as grade sensitive as other programs (I have seen 4.0s turned down more than once and 2.8s accepted more frequently). They look at the whole picture, and do care about the LSAT, but they want to see if your passion, talent, grades and anything else is likely to make you a good lawyer. They care less about your grades in the sense that being smart is not enough to make someone a good lawyer. They assume all people who go to law school are smart in some sense. But, the question remains, what would make you a good lawyer? That will be important in the application.

2/1/2006 8:34:45 PM

What is Law School Really like? Find out Monday Night, Feb. 20 7pm Tucker Classroom

Hear about Law School from the Student's Perspective.

NC State alumni from Campell, UNC, and Central will share how they made it through the admissions process and what law school is all about. If you would like to hear what this process is like from the other side, please come!

NOTE - If the weather is problematic we will be following the university policy on cancellations. You may also check the voice mail notice of the Pre-Law Coordinator (Mary Tetro, 515-8130) after 4:30 on Monday.

2/18/2006 9:55:39 AM

anyone who has knowledge about these specific law schools help....
i have gotten into a few schools and still waitin on others, however i have gotten a 50% scholarship offer from michigan state, but i have also gotten to schools like miami and south carolina....... any suggestions.. as to where i should go... or who i should speak too?

2/22/2006 5:21:17 PM

Ask Mary Tetro if she knows of any of our alums that went there. Then you could talk to them. Have you visited all your schools? Once you get in, it would be good to go visit them again if you can. WHen you are on campus, sitting in the library, moving through the hallways and classrooms, do you feel at home? Does you gut say "this is home", then if yes, that's the school. You can try to figure out a lot of things with your heart and head, but both can screw you up if you use them too much. Listen to your gut.

See if the schools have a visitation day where new students can come back to campus to visit. If not, make one of your own and talk to students you see there. Sounds like you have a good bunch to choose from so far.

2/22/2006 6:34:20 PM