United Nations Convention on the prohibition of military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques
http://untreaty.un.org/ENGLISH/bible/englishinternetbible/partI/chapterXXVI/treaty1.asp

Statement by Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen in 1997 in DoD News Briefing
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/1997/t042897_t0428coh.html

Quote :

"Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. "

India Daily: "Weather manipulation warfare from outerspace"
http://www.indiadaily.com/editorial/4278.asp

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 11:42 AM. Reason : 1]

9/22/2005 11:21:57 AM

http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,63362,00.html

Quote :

"NASA Funds Sci-Fi Technology May. 07, 2004 For 25 years, Ross Hoffman has had a vision: to use tiny changes in the environment to alter the paths of hurricanes, slow down snow storms and turn dark days bright. For most of those years, Hoffman kept his ideas largely to himself. His adviser at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology told him weather control was too outlandish for his Ph.D. thesis. The chances of a buttoned-down foundation or government agency funding such research were so slim, Hoffman didn't even bother to ask. But, in 2001, all that changed. Hoffman stumbled upon a tiny, obscure cranny of the American space program -- the NASA Institute for Advanced Concepts, or NIAC. In this $4 million-a-year agency, Hoffman found a place where the wildest of ideas were not only tolerated, they were welcome. [...] With his award, Hoffman tweaked a weather-prediction program to show that moving a hurricane was possible -- at least in theory. Here's how: You need a ring of satellites in orbit, channeling the sun's energy, stretching around the Earth. The machines would beam power to the planet, using microwaves. But, tuned to 183 GHz, they could also heat up small regions of the atmosphere by a degree or two. Those small changes could have enormous impact, Hoffman's simulation showed. A deadly hurricane, headed for the Hawaiian island of Kauai, drifted off into the Pacific, harmlessly. "

9/22/2005 1:19:20 PM

From The Congressional Record website (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/crecord/)...

S. 517: To establish the Weather Modification Operations and Research Board, and for other purposes.
http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/useftp.cgi?IPaddress=162.140.64.21&filename=s517is.txt&directory=/diskb/wais/data/109_cong_bills

Quote :

"SEC. 2. PURPOSE. It is the purpose of this Act to develop and implement a comprehensive and coordinated national weather modification policy and a national cooperative Federal and State program of weather modification research and development."

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 1:40 PM. Reason : 2]

9/22/2005 1:36:07 PM

http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2005/07/03/dont_like_the_weather_change_it?mode=PF

Quote :

"Don't like the weather? Change it The weird science of weather modification makes a comeback [...] Recent years have seen a growing interest not merely in forecasting, but in the seemingly fanciful prospect of customizing the weather. In 2003 the National Academy of Sciences recommended ''a coordinated national program" to ''conduct a sustained research effort" into weather modification. Politicians in Western and Southwestern states are funding attempts to tickle more moisture out of the clouds, and this March, Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas introduced a bill to create a national Weather Modification Operations and Research Board. Last fall, a meteorologist named Ross Hoffman suggested in Scientific American that a network of microwave-beaming satellites could literally take the wind out of hurricanes. In some of the driest parts of Mexico, a Bedford-based company called Ionogenics is testing a rainmaking apparatus that uses an array of steel poles to ionize the air. China, a country with widespread cloud seeding, has announced plans to engineer clear weather in Beijing for the 2008 Olympics. Meanwhile, deepening concern over the possibly cataclysmic effects of climate change has spurred a number of recent proposals, some sketched out in considerable detail, to engineer a measure of counteractive cooling. John Latham, an atmospheric physicist at the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder, Colo., has proposed increasing the reflectivity of the cloud cover by stirring up water vapor from the ocean with a fleet of giant egg-beater-like turbines. A few years ago, a team led by the late Edward Teller suggested creating a similar effect by launching a million tons of tiny aluminum balloons into the atmosphere. The Teller team also revived a proposal, last explored in the early 1990s, to build an adjustable 2,000-kilometer-wide mirror in space to deflect some of the sun's energy before it reaches us. To be sure, within the meteorological establishment the enthusiasm for weather modification is far from universal. And climate engineering--the alteration of global, rather than local, weather systems--remains purely theoretical. Still, after decades of disfavor, such ideas are getting a second look. As our ability to comprehend the weather improves and as the threat of climate change looms larger, some scientists are ready to brave the uncertainty and tangled ethics of tinkering with the skies."

9/22/2005 1:52:28 PM

From "The National Academies"...

http://www4.nationalacademies.org/news.nsf/isbn/0309090539?OpenDocument

Quote :

"U.S. Should Pursue Additional Research on Weather Modification For the last 60 years, technologies to influence weather have been used in attempts to alleviate droughts or the effects of hazardous storms. Today, operational weather-modification programs exist in more than 24 countries, and in 2001 at least 66 efforts to alter the weather were conducted in 10 states across the United States. But research on weather modification has dwindled, leaving critical uncertainties and knowledge gaps. In the late 1970s, the United States invested more than $20 million a year in weather-modification research but now spends less than $500,000 annually, and only a handful of research programs exist worldwide. "

9/22/2005 1:58:59 PM

India Daily must be India's tabloid. They're putting out some real fringe stuff.

9/22/2005 2:09:38 PM

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170064,00.html

Quote :

"Out There: Man-Made Hurricanes? Wednesday, September 21, 2005 FOXNEWS [...] The U.S. government has apparently tried to influence hurricanes, but its Project Stormfury, which from 1962 to 1983 sought to weaken cyclones by seeding the storms' eyewalls with silver iodide, was a failure."

9/22/2005 2:10:06 PM

From the "Atlantic Oceanographic and Meteorological Laboratory"...

http://www.aoml.noaa.gov/hrd/hrd_sub/sfury.html

Quote :

"Project STORMFURY was an ambitious experimental program of research on hurricane modification carried out between 1962 and 1983. The proposed modification technique involved artificial stimulation of convection outside the eyewall through seeding with silver iodide. The invigorated convection, it was argued, would compete with the original eyewall, lead to reformation of the eyewall at larger radius, and thus, through partial conservation of angular momentum, produce a decrease in the strongest winds."

9/22/2005 2:15:51 PM

IOW - t3h gov has repeatedly expressed interest in these projects, funded them, and seen no success.

9/22/2005 2:18:05 PM

this is freakin' 2005

about time to control the damn weather

9/22/2005 2:19:25 PM

http://uscode.house.gov/download/pls/15C9A.txt

Quote :

"NATIONAL WEATHER MODIFICATION POLICY ACT OF 1976 [...] Findings. - The Congress finds and declares the following: "(1) Weather-related disasters and hazards, including drought, hurricanes, tornadoes, hail, lightning, fog, floods, and frost, result in substantial human suffering and loss of life, billions of dollars of annual economic losses to owners of crops and other property, and substantial financial loss to the United States Treasury; "(2) Weather modification technology has significant potential for preventing, diverting, moderating, or ameliorating the adverse effects of such disasters and hazards and enhancing crop production and the availability of water; "

9/22/2005 2:25:09 PM

From the U.S. Department of Defense website...

POTENTIAL WEATHER MODIFICATION CAPABILITIES AF 2025
http://www.dtc.army.mil/tts/1997/proceed/abarnes/tsld004.htm

Search all DoD websites using "weather modification" for yourself...

http://www.defenselink.mil/search/

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 2:37 PM. Reason : 1]

9/22/2005 2:36:30 PM

One of the biggest smoking guns in regards to using weather modification as a weapon...

From the "Federation of American Scientists" (FAS) website...

http://www.fas.org/spp/military/docops/usaf/2025/v3c15/v3c15-1.htm

Quote :

"Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning the Weather in 2025 A Research Paper Presented To Air Force 2025 by Col Tamzy J. House Lt Col James B. Near, Jr. LTC William B. Shields (USA) Maj Ronald J. Celentano Maj David M. Husband Maj Ann E. Mercer Maj James E. Pugh August 1996 [...] Executive Summary In 2025, US aerospace forces can "own the weather" by capitalizing on emerging technologies and focusing development of those technologies to war-fighting applications. Such a capability offers the war fighter tools to shape the battlespace in ways never before possible. It provides opportunities to impact operations across the full spectrum of conflict and is pertinent to all possible futures. The purpose of this paper is to outline a strategy for the use of a future weather-modification system to achieve military objectives rather than to provide a detailed technical road map."

9/22/2005 2:51:23 PM

Quote :

"In 2025"

Quote :

"9/22/2005 2:51:23 PM"

9/22/2005 2:58:30 PM

what the problem?

9/22/2005 3:04:25 PM

Quote :

"1997"

Statement by Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen in 1997 in DoD News Briefing
http://www.defenselink.mil/transcripts/1997/t042897_t0428coh.html

Quote :

"Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves. So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts, and that's why this is so important. "

9/22/2005 3:05:11 PM

Quote :

"Well, it points out the nature of the threat. It turned out to be a false threat under the circumstances. But as we've learned in the intelligence community, we had something called -- and we have James Woolsey here to perhaps even address this question about phantom moles. The mere fear that there is a mole within an agency can set off a chain reaction and a hunt for that particular mole which can paralyze the agency for weeks and months and years even, in a search. The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one. There are some reports, for example, that some countries have been trying to construct something like an Ebola Virus, and that would be a very dangerous phenomenon, to say the least. Alvin Toeffler has written about this in terms of some scientists in their laboratories trying to devise certain types of pathogens that would be ethnic specific so that they could just eliminate certain ethnic groups and races; and others are designing some sort of engineering, some sort of insects that can destroy specific crops. Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves."

That entire paragraph is about false threats. Damn son.

9/22/2005 3:12:06 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Joshua: "That entire paragraph is about false threats. Damn son."

I think I see what you're trying to do here. Or perhaps you just lack reading comprehension.

Let's be clear here, rather than vague. Are you trying to suggest that Secretary Cohen was saying that "an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves" is an impossible threat (ie, a technology that doesn't exist)?

If so, are you going to also say that chemical and biological weapons are "impossible threats" as well? Because Secretary Cohen mentioned those in that paragraph as well.

If you read Cohen's ENTIRE answer, it is quite clear that Secretary Cohen is saying that "an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves" is a REAL technology that DOES exist and COULD BE a potential threat.

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:34 PM. Reason : 9]

9/22/2005 3:23:57 PM

Quote :

"The same thing is true about just the false scare of a threat of using some kind of a chemical weapon or a biological one."

No, he isn't denying their existance, he is speaking of the relationship between false threats and the inteliigence community.

Please learn to grasp the context of a statement before pissing yourself.

9/22/2005 3:31:44 PM

Can you answer this question, Mr. Joshua?

Quote :

"Are you trying to suggest that Secretary Cohen was saying that "an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves" is an impossible threat (ie, a technology that doesn't exist)?"

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:38 PM. Reason : 1]

9/22/2005 3:33:43 PM

No, I'm not at all. However, he mentioned it as a false threat, alongside such other false threats as ethnic specific pathogens and crop specific insects. He is not saying that it is a legitimate threat as you so desperately want to believe. This is not a smoking gun by any means.

Quote :

"Please learn to grasp the context of a statement before pissing yourself."

9/22/2005 3:37:29 PM

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"No, he isn't denying their existance, he is speaking of the relationship between false threats and the inteliigence community."

I know that, you MORON. Did you really think I didn't know that chemical and biological weapons are real and existing weapons?

Quote :

"Please learn to grasp the context of a statement before pissing yourself."

I have NOT pissed myself. Pathetic attempt at smear.

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:58 PM. Reason : 4]

9/22/2005 3:41:10 PM

Quote :

"Did you really think I didn't know that chemical and biological weapons are real and existing weapons?"

I think that you know whatever prisonplanet.com tells you.

Quote :

"I have NOT pissed myself."

LOL

9/22/2005 3:46:20 PM

Quote :

"However, he mentioned it as a false threat, alongside such other false threats as ethnic specific pathogens and crop specific insects. He is not saying that it is a legitimate threat as you so desperately want to believe. This is not a smoking gun by any means. "

Actually, Secretary Cohen is saying that uses of "ethnic specific pathogens and crop specific insects" are ALSO real and existing technologies that could potentially be real threats. The same as the other things he mentioned in the answer, including biological and chemical weapons and "eco-type" terrorism.


[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 3:50 PM. Reason : 1]

9/22/2005 3:48:25 PM

You're grasping at straws, little buddy.

9/22/2005 3:50:01 PM

Quote :

"You're grasping at straws, little buddy."

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

You're completely delusional. Why? Because you apparantly actually think that the pathetic crap you posted above will make any intelligent person believe that Cohen wasn't saying that "eco-type terrorism" is a real and existing technology that could be a potential threat. It is completely obvious that he was saying that it is a real and existing technology.

In case you're wondering, I spent the time to respond to your idiotic posts to demonstrate what a moron you are.

You did accomplish one thing though. You managed to distract me and others from more important issues.

9/22/2005 3:55:12 PM

So since Cohen mentioned climate altering technology alongside various other "false threats" you have inferred that it is a real and existing technology? Once again your logic is appalling.

If it is real, can you find us a picture of this secret weather machine?

Quote :

"You managed to distract me and others from more important issues."

You managed to make me laugh. Keep up the good work, little buddy.

9/22/2005 3:58:28 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Joshua: "So since Cohen mentioned climate altering technology alongside various other "false threats" you have inferred that it is a real and existing technology? Once again your logic is appalling. If it is real, can you find us a picture of this secret weather machine? "

In case you haven't noticed, I have provided NUMEROUS links in this thread to sources such as The Congressional Record, the the U.S. Department of Defense, and several "mainstream" news outlets....ALL demonstrating that the government planned to explore and use weather modification technology or that such technology DOES EXIST. It is common knowledge among many that weather and climate modification technology exists. Many people know about "cloud seeding", for example.

Are you really going to try to tell us that such weather modification technology does not exist?

Pathetic little quips about "secret weather machines" might persuade someone who is ignorant or in elementary school, but it doesn't work with informed and intelligent adults.

You are truly pathetic, Mr. Joshua. It's hilarious. And you are my opposition. I love it.


[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 4:15 PM. Reason : 5]

9/22/2005 4:06:31 PM

Quote :

"Are you really going to try to tell us that such weather modification technology does not exist?"

I'm going to continue thinking like a rational human being until you provide some sort of hard evidence for such technology. All that you can provide are articles that mention research and possible uses for weather altering technology. You have absolutely nothing factual to suggest that such technology does in fact exist. You can slander ( ) me as much as you would like to take attention off of the issue, but that simple fact is that you have yet to prove a single thing.

Please come back when you have some proof. OK, little fella?

9/22/2005 4:16:40 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Joshua: "I'm going to continue thinking like a rational human being until you provide some sort of hard evidence for such technology. All that you can provide are articles that mention research and possible uses for weather altering technology. You have absolutely nothing factual to suggest that such technology does in fact exist. You can slander me as much as you would like to take attention off of the issue, but that simple fact is that you have yet to prove a single thing. Please come back when you have some proof. OK, little fella?"

Well, here's just one example of existing weather modification technology. Cloud seeding. Check out this webpage of the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation that answers questions about current weather modification technology now being used.

Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation - Weather Modification Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weatherfaq.htm

9/22/2005 4:26:40 PM

Quote :

"ALL demonstrating that the government planned to explore and use weather modification technology or that such technology DOES COULD EXIST IN THE FUTURE."

Quote :

"Many people know about "cloud seeding", for example."

Do many people know that there's scant empirical evidence that cloud seeding works?

9/22/2005 4:27:49 PM

One of his links:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170064,00.html

Quote :

"Out There: Man-Made Hurricanes? Wednesday, September 21, 2005 FOXNEWS [...] The U.S. government has apparently tried to influence hurricanes, but its Project Stormfury, which from 1962 to 1983 sought to weaken cyclones by seeding the storms' eyewalls with silver iodide, was a failure."

I would be shocked if the government hadn't experimented with weather.

9/22/2005 4:30:08 PM

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"Gamecat: "Do many people know that there's scant empirical evidence that cloud seeding works?"

Well, many states (including Colorado, Utah, Nevada, and Texas) and other countries have used cloud seeding for decades. Texas has been using cloud seeding since at least 1971. The Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation has a webpage that answers questions about cloud seeding.

Texas Dept. of Licensing and Regulation - Weather Modification Frequently Asked Questions
http://www.license.state.tx.us/weather/weatherfaq.htm


http://www.water.denver.co.gov/cloud_seeding.html

Quote :

"What is cloud seeding? Attempts have been made to modify the weather for the benefit of people for many centuries. But it wasn’t until the 1950’s that what we know today as modern cloud seeding began. Cloud seeding, also known as weather modification, is the deliberate treatment of certain clouds or cloud systems with the intent of affecting the precipitation processes within those clouds. This process has been used worldwide and has been practiced in the United States, mainly in low precipitation areas, for decades."

[Edited on September 22, 2005 at 4:54 PM. Reason : 2]

9/22/2005 4:40:09 PM

I'm not arguing that people don't seed clouds.

I'm arguing, well...that:

Quote :

"Gamecat: there's scant empirical evidence that cloud seeding works"

9/22/2005 5:05:42 PM

I think salisburyboy has been watching "The Core" too mamy times.

9/22/2005 5:09:35 PM

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"Overall there is little hard scientific evidence that anthropogenic activity, either advertently or inadvertently, is causing significant changes in weather and climate, particularly on the global scale. This is certainly true with respect to cloud seeding where there are only a few limited examples of where cloud seeding has been scientifically shown to be effective in enhancing rainfall. Nonetheless, there are many nations which are currently running operational cloud seeding projects. Apparently, the decision has been made in those nations and states that the benefits outweigh the risks of applying the scientifically unproven technology of weather modification by cloud seeding. The major risks, however, are limited to the possibility of creating severe weather or floods, and to increasing rainfall in one local region at the expense of rainfall in a neighboring local region. Often the decision to apply cloud seeding technology in a particular country or state is a prescription of a political placebo or a decision that it is better to do something than to sit idly by and do nothing as reservoirs dry up and crops wither and die due to the absence of water."

http://rams.atmos.colostate.edu/gkss.html

9/22/2005 5:44:49 PM

Quote :

"Apparently, the decision has been made in those nations and states that the benefits outweigh the risks of applying the scientifically unproven technology of weather modification by cloud seeding."

9/22/2005 6:23:43 PM

^ I missed that one. Thanks

9/22/2005 7:11:42 PM

Mr. Joshua owns this thread

9/22/2005 7:28:29 PM

did anybody else laugh when they read the title of this thread?

9/23/2005 9:59:26 AM

I was waiting for Salisburyboy to make a thread linking Katrina, Rita, and the Tsunami to an elaborate weather controlling conspiracy operated by the Bush Administration. I figure why not throw the "slow response" in New Orleans into the mix, and also reiterate the promise made by President Bush to "rebuild bigger and better" in New Orleans (Halliburton). On paper, this conspiracy would be one of the most organized and elusive mass genocides ever. Hitler eat your heart out, but who in their right mind would buy it?

9/23/2005 10:22:22 AM

the jews are doing it, duh, they control everything

9/23/2005 11:34:33 AM

Earth has a deadline bitches.

9/23/2005 1:03:14 PM

i blame global warming

9/23/2005 1:03:42 PM

ATTN SALISBURY BOY:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/science/09/23/rita.wishfulthinking.ap/index.html

Quote :

"DENVER, Colorado (AP) -- It sounds like a great idea: Let's just blast hurricanes like Rita and Katrina out of the sky before they hurt more people. Or, at least weaken the storms and steer them away from cities. Atmospheric scientists say it's wishful thinking that we could destroy or even influence something as huge and powerful as a hurricane. They abandoned such a quest years ago after more than two decades of inconclusive government-sponsored research. Private companies have conducted tests on a much smaller scale, but have made little progress despite initially claiming to erase storm clouds from the atmosphere. "It would be like trying to move a car with a pea shooter," said hydrometeorologist Matthew Kelsch of the National Center for Atmospheric Research in Boulder. "The amount of energy involved in a hurricane is far greater that anything we're going to impart to it." The federal government's hurricane modification program was called Project Stormfury. The idea was raised during the Eisenhower administration after several major storms hit the East Coast in the mid-1950s, killing 749 people and causing billions in damages. But it wasn't until 1961 that initial tests were conducted on Hurricane Esther with a Navy plane releasing silver iodide crystals. Some reports indicate winds were reduced by 10 percent to 30 percent. During Stormfury, scientists also seeded hurricanes in 1963, 1969 and 1971 over the open Atlantic Ocean far from land. Researchers dropped silver iodide, a substance that serves as an effective ice nuclei, into clouds just outside of the hurricane's eyewall. The idea was that a new ring of clouds would form around the artificial ice nuclei. The new clouds were supposed to change rain patterns and form a new eyewall that would collapse the old one. The reformed hurricane would spin more slowly and be less dangerous. Sometimes, the experiments appeared to work. Hurricane Debbie in 1969 was seeded twice over four days by several aircraft. Researchers noted that its intensity waxed and waned by up to 30 percent. For cloud seeding to be successful, clouds must contain sufficient supercooled water that is still liquid even though it is below 32 degrees Fahrenheit. Raindrops form when the artificial nuclei and the supercooled water combine. But scientists also learned that hurricanes contain less supercooled water than other storm clouds, so seeding was unreliable. And, hurricanes grow and dissipate all on their own, even forming new walls of clouds called "concentric eyewall circles." This made it impossible to determine whether storm reductions were the result of human intervention. Project Stormfury was abandoned in the 1980s after spending hundreds of millions of dollars. Other storm modification methods that have been suggested include cooling the tropical ocean with icebergs and spreading particles or films over the ocean surface to inhibit storms from evaporating heat from the sea. Occasionally, somebody suggests detonating a nuclear weapon to shatter a storm. Researchers say hurricanes would dwarf such measures. For example, Hurricane Rita measures about 400 miles across. According to the center for atmospheric research, the heat energy released by a hurricane equals 50 to 200 trillion watts or about the same amount of energy released by exploding a 10-megaton nuclear bomb every 20 minutes."

9/24/2005 12:01:43 PM

Quote :

"Mr. Joshua owns this thread salisburyboy"

[Edited on September 24, 2005 at 3:14 PM. Reason : .]

9/24/2005 3:14:04 PM

I have a humidifier and about 1000 arisol cans in my hurrican deterrent kit.

9/24/2005 3:17:01 PM

Quote :

""Mr. Joshua owns this thread salisburyboy"

LOL


http://pesn.com/2005/09/06/9600160_Weather_Modification/

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"Weather Modification a Long-Established, Though Secretive, Reality New legislation not designed to foster pleasant or productive weather, but planned as tool of weaponized weather control, already well tested and in use since 1976. Amateur and hostile weather-makers alike likely to lose their technology to the military. by Mary-Sue Haliburton Pure Energy Systems News Copyright © 2005 [...] The official recognition given to weather control technology by setting up a Board to oversee it at this time might suggest to some that this technology is a new field, and that the research is just beginning. However, weather control has a long history, and if various observers and researchers are correct in their interpretation of documents and data, we have been seeing it in use for at least three decades."

9/26/2005 8:58:40 AM

Damage control propaganda...

http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/newssentinel/news/editorial/12722072.htm

Quote :

"Is the government controlling the weather? BY BILL FERGUSON Knight Ridder Newspapers [...] So is there anything to all this secret government weather control business? Let's just say I have my doubts. When I look at people like Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Vladmir Putin, the words "evil genius" aren't among the first that come to mind. I'd be surprised if some of these guys can tie their own shoes. If they were playing around with technology that could actually lead to worldwide calamity, I think we'd have been wiped out a long time ago."

Weeellll....THAT settles it once and for all. Just forget about S. 517, the statement by Secretary Cohen, the United Nations Convention on the prohibition of military or any other hostile use of environmental modification techniques, and all the other evidence.


[Edited on September 26, 2005 at 10:15 AM. Reason : 2]

9/26/2005 10:12:13 AM

So whenever an article by a legitimate news source contradicts what you want to believe, it is automatically "damage control propaganda"? Thats not very open minded of you.

Please provide some hard evidence, not just articles that mention research and possible misuse of weather modification technology. You have absolutely nothing factual to suggest that such technology does in fact exist.

Once again, please come back when you have some proof. OK, little fella?

9/26/2005 1:51:37 PM