DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/10/13/D8D7EMNG0.html
Quote : | " It was billed as a conversation with U.S. troops, but the questions President Bush asked on a teleconference call Thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in Iraq and Saturday's vote on a new Iraqi constitution.
"This is an important time," Allison Barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before Bush arrived. "The president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."
Barber said the president was interested in three topics: the overall security situation in Iraq, security preparations for the weekend vote and efforts to train Iraqi troops.
As she spoke in Washington, a live shot of 10 soldiers from the Army's 42nd Infantry Division and one Iraqi soldier was beamed into the Eisenhower Executive Office Building from Tikrit _ the birthplace of former Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein.
"I'm going to ask somebody to grab those two water bottles against the wall and move them out of the camera shot for me," Barber said.
A brief rehearsal ensued.
"OK, so let's just walk through this," Barber said. "Captain Kennedy, you answer the first question and you hand the mike to whom?"
"Captain Smith," Kennedy said.
"Captain. Smith? You take the mike and you hand it to whom?" she asked.
"Captain Kennedy," the soldier replied.
And so it went.
"If the question comes up about partnering _ how often do we train with the Iraqi military _ who does he go to?" Barber asked.
"That's going to go to Captain Pratt," one of the soldiers said.
"And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit _ the hometown _ and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked.
Before he took questions, Bush thanked the soldiers for serving and reassured them that the U.S. would not pull out of Iraq until the mission was complete.
"So long as I'm the president, we're never going to back down, we're never going to give in, we'll never accept anything less than total victory," Bush said.
The president told them twice that the American people were behind them.
"You've got tremendous support here at home," Bush said. " |
start spinnin'10/13/2005 9:53:45 PM |
0 Suspended 3198 Posts user info edit post |
I wouldn't say that's evidence of "staging".... 10/13/2005 10:05:36 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME EVER THAT PROPAGANDA HAS BEEN USED
THE UNITED STATES NEVER EVEN HAD TO USE PROPAGANDA DURING WORLD WAR 2
THIS IS AN OUTRAGE! HOW COULD GEORGE BUSH USE PROPAGANDA?!!
THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO PRECEDENT FOR THIS TYPE OF BEHAVIOR! 10/13/2005 10:05:50 PM |
Clear5 All American 4136 Posts user info edit post |
Did they give them answers to the questions before hand, because this just looks like people were trying to make sure they dont look like idiots in front of a camera. 10/13/2005 10:07:07 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
aha
you can't deny it because you knwo it's true, so you pretend it's ok because it's happened before.
NEXT! 10/13/2005 10:07:31 PM |
Excoriator Suspended 10214 Posts user info edit post |
i don't think its ok.
i've just never understood this wide-eyed outrage from the left over every single piece of propaganda ranging from mission-accomplished to this latest escapade
maybe i'm just more of a cynic
[Edited on October 13, 2005 at 10:09 PM. Reason : s] 10/13/2005 10:09:17 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
a fucking 5 year old retard could tell it was scripted
i was laughing my ass off this morn 10/13/2005 10:10:06 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
That they hand-selected members of the conference is propoganda.
The scripting part is just because Bush sucks at answering questions. 10/13/2005 10:28:41 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
Just by viewing this, it's very obvious who has and hasn't done a group presentation to the boss.
I mean, you don't want the supply officer jumping up and giving his two cents about personnel shortages just to upstage the personnel officer to look good on camera. Or 10 people attempting to answer one question at once. Better to organize it so the most qualified person answers the question.
Quote : | "Did they give them answers to the questions before hand, because this just looks like people were trying to make sure they dont look like idiots in front of a camera." |
Again, not really. It sounds like more of a rehearsal on their part so the whole meeting went smoothly. If I were going to answer questions from the president, I'd at least like a few minutes' warning to prepare some notes so that a.) I don't look like an idiot with "uh, um, unhhh...wait, let me look that up..." and b.) so that I don't ramble and waste his time.
Quote : | ""And then if we're going to talk a little bit about the folks in Tikrit _ the hometown _ and how they're handling the political process, who are we going to give that to?" she asked." |
For example, if they were going to ask a question about Tikrit, don't you think they'd like to figure out who would answer that before hand so that it goes to the person who has, oh, I don't know, maybe spent the most time in the area. Unless anyone has a better suggestion, that's what I'd try to do.
[Edited on October 13, 2005 at 11:45 PM. Reason : .]10/13/2005 11:33:11 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
ali baba says
Quote : | " good morning...
i . like . you.
mr president
yes. i like you." |
10/14/2005 12:08:36 AM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002474.html#002474
perhaps this will clear things up.
It isn't AS big a deal that the conference was scripted, though that is kinda iffy on its own. What's crazy is that they refused to admit it was scripted, then the VIDEO OF THE PRACTICE ROUNDS was broadcast on television. After scott mclellan tried to say that it wasn't scripted. The lady helping htem practice even SAID "scripted"
that link also shows the whitehouse press corps starting to grow some nads
[Edited on October 14, 2005 at 4:07 PM. Reason : .] 10/14/2005 3:52:16 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
we dont need to discuss this anymore
the coaching/scripting was video taped
thats what happens when your chief architect is on his way to jail
[Edited on October 14, 2005 at 4:10 PM. Reason : 0] 10/14/2005 4:10:01 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
no no, they were CAUGHT scripting and taping the practices
THAT'S what happens when your chief architect is on his way to jail 10/14/2005 4:14:29 PM |
Gamecat All American 17913 Posts user info edit post |
so...
you guys really think he'll do time? 10/14/2005 4:16:43 PM |
Johnny Swank All American 1889 Posts user info edit post |
Won't do time, but will be involved in a long-term case. The longer this drags out the better for the Dems. They need to get a pair and come up with a plan (any plan) to take back Congress in 2006.
No way in hell Hillary gets elected in '08, so we get back to spliting up the government again.
Gridlock ensues, then some bastardized form of bi-partisianship happens.
Then we can all have some equal opportunity hate. 10/14/2005 4:21:52 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "no no, they were CAUGHT scripting and taping the practices" |
they beamed it all over the planet from a satellite10/14/2005 4:27:54 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
1. Pardon 2. Medal of Freedom 3. ... 4. Profit 10/14/2005 4:32:05 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
had rove gotten any medals yet? 10/14/2005 4:40:02 PM |
PinkandBlack Suspended 10517 Posts user info edit post |
this was staged too
10/14/2005 5:12:50 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
man, i listened to rush bitch about this all the way home today. i wanted to change the channel but the people i was riding with didn't want to change it...
but really, whats the big fucking deal? everyone does this kind of thing, on both sides of the aisle. staging events is just one of those things people do.
even still, it doesn't look like this was "staged." It looks more like what Maverick said: organizing a meeting so that you don't have fifteen people all trying to answer at once...
stop spinnin, man. 10/14/2005 5:23:36 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " it doesn't look like this was "staged." " |
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heres a fun game, find out which statement in this post makes more sense10/14/2005 5:32:19 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
care to actually address my points? nope, didn't think so. seriously, the libs just jumped all over this and there is NOTHING to it. I guess they are following the old adage: say something long enough and people will start to believe it! 10/14/2005 5:55:11 PM |
Superman Suspended 586 Posts user info edit post |
see where can I see this videoconference? 10/14/2005 6:00:41 PM |
boonedocks All American 5550 Posts user info edit post |
The lady said that if a soldier asked an unexpected question, then the mic should be passed to the Colonel.
Come on folks. 10/14/2005 6:03:19 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
^^^
This event is actually one of those events that makes me glad I don't work in the private sector. From my friends who have turned that way, I hear of meetings that are completely unorganized and ramble on for hours, often with large gaps where no one talks, people have sidebar conversations, etc. If you were to have a meeting or a staff briefing for your boss in the military that rambled just a tiny bit, you'd definitely hear about it and be put back on track. Most people have better places to be than stuck in a meeting. You organize the meeting, publish an agenda at a minimum. If you're briefing a VIP (and the President certainly qualifies as one), you'd better practice to make sure everyone is prepared for what questions they're likely to answer and what areas they are prepared to brief. 10/14/2005 6:10:28 PM |
MathFreak All American 14478 Posts user info edit post |
Another proof from Michelle Malkin that the event was not staged. Which is... that all of them have always been staged. This is the email that she cites to show how the media itrresponsibly lies about the press-conference having been staged.
Quote : | "My husband was in the military 40 years ago and the USO entertainers were performing for Christmas. The soldiers were told how to behave during the taping i.e.. where to look, when to applaud, etc. POINT: They have been rehearsing the troops for decades." |
I swear the bitch on so much speed, it's not even fucking funny. She can't even remember what the fuck she's trying to argue.
P.S. ^ Yeah, the private sector sucks. The government is so much more efficient. BTW, let me guess. Are you a Republican?10/14/2005 6:16:37 PM |
Maverick All American 11175 Posts user info edit post |
I'm talking about meetings based on what I know from people who've been on both sides of the aisle. I'm not making broad-sweeping comments about efficiency, contrary to what you may want to believe. What's your work experience with both the private sector and the government sector? Have you observed differently?
[Edited on October 14, 2005 at 6:39 PM. Reason : .] 10/14/2005 6:37:33 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
ummm, no, that doesn't say that all the events were "staged." Staging is when you actually script out every last little detail, down to what people say. A wedding is staged. Rehearsing is when you plan out the major things so that everyone knows what the overall plan is. A debate is rehearsed. Few people would argue that the presidential debates were "staged."
of course, it just sounds so much better to say that it was staged. besides, I can't really find anything that shows that this event was supposed to be televised. AKA, it doesn't appear that this was a press conference or anything. Maybe it was, but I can't seem to find anything to indicate otherwise. Under this assumption, why the fuck would you stage this? What purpose does it fucking serve?
"Hey guys, lets get together and talk to the president by ourselves, just us and him. By the way, he wants you to say these things, ok? But, he really wants to talk to you guys. so just say what he wants you to say."
yeah, that makes a lot of sense... 10/14/2005 6:40:20 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
10/14/2005 6:43:41 PM |
Scribble Veteran 156 Posts user info edit post |
I'm left wondering...
WTF does teh l3ft need this story for? 10/14/2005 6:45:12 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
it just shows hes afraid to talk to actual troops
which is sad 10/14/2005 10:06:18 PM |
aaronburro Sup, B 53065 Posts user info edit post |
ummm, so, WHY THE FUCK DO IT THEN? if no one will see it, then why the fuck would you do it? 10/14/2005 10:18:45 PM |
Josh8315 Suspended 26780 Posts user info edit post |
what? 10/14/2005 10:24:31 PM |
DirtyGreek All American 29309 Posts user info edit post |
Superman, this is where you can see it
http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002474.html#002474 10/15/2005 11:45:05 AM |
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aquaca All American 7326 Posts user info edit post |
This is rather irrelevant, Bush ran two campains exactly like this. A la Karl Rove, It's the same recycled shit. I know that no sane politician would risk his neck on National TV by having soldiers speak their minds. I personally thought the whole thing was pointless but I guess he must really need to get sympathy from somewhere. 10/17/2005 11:57:38 AM |