Links will be posted next week, when this happens.

The question will be: Does the prez side with rove or the republican appointed prosecuter?

-If he sides with the prosecutor, its means hanging rove out to dry
-If he sides with rove and he is convicted, it would be devistating to his presidency

[Edited on October 14, 2005 at 5:24 PM. Reason : -]

10/14/2005 5:23:32 PM

FREE KARL

10/14/2005 5:28:15 PM

[Edited on October 14, 2005 at 5:36 PM. Reason : -]

10/14/2005 5:33:41 PM

10/14/2005 6:44:05 PM

should happen soon

10/17/2005 8:48:07 AM

I'd like to see Cheney indicted too.

10/17/2005 9:16:08 AM

they had him in for what, 4.5 hours this time of testimony?

he's toast. I wonder if they'd let him and delay share a cell?

10/17/2005 9:22:11 AM

presidential pardon

j/k

10/17/2005 9:31:07 AM

Quote :

"presidential pardon"

10/17/2005 9:50:03 AM

its gonna be so funny when a journalist ends up getting indicted

10/17/2005 9:54:05 AM

hahahaha
the big girl is a karl rove fan

10/17/2005 9:58:38 AM

Quote :

""KARL ROVE WOULD IMMEDIATELY RESIGN OR GO ON UNPAID LEAVE IF INDICTED IN THE CIA LEAK CASE, SOURCES FAMILIAR WITH STRATEGY TELL TIME""

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/Rove_told_facing_perjury_charge_Will_1016.html

10/17/2005 10:04:54 AM

he's not gonna be indicted, kids

10/17/2005 10:05:46 AM

maybe not

Quote :

"Copyright 2003 The Houston Chronicle Publishing Company The Houston Chronicle October 08, 2003, Wednesday 3 STAR EDITION SECTION: A; Pg. 2 LENGTH: 587 words HEADLINE: Bush: 'No idea' if sources of leak will be identified SOURCE: Hearst News Service BYLINE: STEWART M. POWELL DATELINE: WASHINGTON BODY: WASHINGTON - President Bush voiced doubts Tuesday that Justice Department investigators would track down two senior administration officials who illegally identified undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame in an alleged scheme to silence her husband, Iraq policy critic Joseph Wilson IV. Bush commented as presidential spokesman Scott McClellan announced that three top presidential aides had denied leaking the identity of the CIA officer - a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison and $ 50,000 in fines. McClellan said he had obtained face-to-face denials from White House political director Karl Rove; I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff; and Elliott Abrams, an official with the National Security Council. While stressing that the three officials had denied telling syndicated columnist Robert Novak about Wilson's wife, McClellan declined to discuss whether any of the officials later tried to widen the impact of the published leak by calling the attention of other journalists to the Novak column. McClellan's comments drew a sharp distinction between the original leak to Novak and a so-called second wave of unidentified White House officials who allegedly alerted other journalists to Novak's revelation."

10/17/2005 10:18:23 AM

I'm betting Rove gets indicted on one or more of the following:

1. Lying to an FBI officer at the beginning of the investigation [federal crime]

2. Conspiracy

3. Perjury [see #1] lying to the grand jury.

4. Obstruction of Justice

Rove has been in front of the grand jury 4 times, and this last time he was there for 4.5 hours.

[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 10:25 AM. Reason : 4. Obstruction of Justice]

10/17/2005 10:24:26 AM

I knidof doubt anything will happen.

10/17/2005 10:36:16 AM

why?

insiders are saying its likely

10/17/2005 10:37:45 AM

I didn't realize Colin Powell had been called in to testify.

10/17/2005 10:39:25 AM

really?? all the insiders i have heard say nothing will happen....hmm..

10/17/2005 10:53:23 AM

fox news wouldnt be claiming theres a good chance if there wasnt, becuase even the possibility makes them look bad

[Edited on October 17, 2005 at 10:55 AM. Reason : 9]

10/17/2005 10:55:07 AM

Quote :

"really?? all the insiders i have heard say nothing will happen....hmm.."

you have insiders?

care to clue us in?

10/17/2005 10:59:46 AM

mine are comperable to josh8315's sooo.....

10/17/2005 11:02:20 AM

10/17/2005 11:42:27 AM

Sargent's such a great cartoonist.

I heard on NPR that if anyone's going to be charged, it should be within a week or two.

10/17/2005 7:27:07 PM

i'm gonna laugh my ass off when a journalist get's the DITE

10/17/2005 8:16:59 PM

Quote :

"I heard on NPR that if anyone's going to be charged, it should be within a week or two."

I heard that same thing.

I am waiting impatiently.

Please be Rove, please be Rove, please be Rove ...

(although Bush will not say whether or not Rove will stay on if indicted.)

Quote :

"i'm gonna laugh my ass off when a journalist get's the DITE"

Thats fine. Either Judith Miller or that shit-bag Robert Novak getting slapped is fine by me.

10/17/2005 8:24:01 PM

Quote :

"i'm gonna laugh my ass off when a journalist get's the DITE"

I don't think that can happen. A journalist can't be indicted for leaking classified information since their knowing it means that it's already been leaked. They might be able to get them on something else though, I dunno.

10/17/2005 10:18:31 PM

Quote :

"A special prosecutor's intensifying focus into who outed a CIA spy has raised questions whether Vice President Cheney himself is involved, knowledgeable sources confirmed yesterday. At least one source and one reporter who have testified in the probe said U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald is pursuing Cheney's role in the Valerie Plame affair. In addition, at least six current and former Cheney staffers - most members of the White House Iraq Group - have testified before the grand jury, including the vice president's top honcho, Lewis (Scooter) Libby, and two top Cheney national security lieutenants. Cheney's name has come up amid indications Fitzgerald may be edging closer to a blockbuster conspiracy charge - with help from a secret snitch. "They have got a senior cooperating witness - someone who is giving them all of that," a source who has been questioned in the leak probe told the Daily News yesterday."

http://americablog.blogspot.com/2005/10/they-have-got-senior-cooperating.html

Quote :

"Washington DC— Americans awoke today to the news that Karl Rove and Scooter Libby had been indicted, while George Bush and Dick Cheney were named as unindicted co-conspirator. Federal prosecutor Fitzgerald, issued wide ranging indictments including, obstruction of justice, perjury, arrogance, hubris, cross-dressing, and pooping on the White House lawn. The Capitol flag is flying at half staff, not since Watergate and Penisgate has the country been in such turmoil. Later in the morning we heard reports confirming that Judith Miller, a critical source in the investigation, was spending her day with Martha Stewart learning to bake a yellow cake. Judith's paper the New York Times explained Judy was baking the cake for some old friends who were going from the White House to the Big House. It was not immediately clear how the indictments would effect the country, Democratic Whip Harry Reid said not so much, little was getting done anyway. Karl Rove, arrested at his home, temporarily escaped from custody when he presented a get out of jail free card signed by Supreme Court Justice Scalia. The Justice when questioned said he thought it a harmless joke when Karl asked him to sign 200 of the cards. Impeachment is the talk of the town. Unnamed White House sources, will they never learn, are reporting that George is hitting the bottle again. He's spending the day watching 1950's reruns on the big screen and mumbling I love you Lucy, I love you."

http://onegoodmove.org/1gm/1gmarchive/002485.html#002485

[Edited on October 18, 2005 at 9:08 AM. Reason : d]

10/18/2005 9:04:04 AM

MSNBC:

prosecuter to make announcement tomorrow


GIGGIDY GIGGIDYq

10/18/2005 10:14:14 AM

I'm ready to hear whatever Fitzgerald has to say. I'm glad that he's not been leaking anything during this investigation. Seems like the right person for the job regardless of the outcome.

10/18/2005 10:20:30 AM

Who wants to bet that the political pressure is high enough he won't risk issuing an indictment?

10/18/2005 11:09:12 AM

^hes a special prosecutor. its his job to ignore that pressure.

[Edited on October 18, 2005 at 11:58 AM. Reason : -]

10/18/2005 11:58:27 AM

anyone who has been watching the prez knows hes looked like shit in public

hes probably been told that this indictment isnt gonna look good

10/18/2005 4:50:45 PM

has anyone else pointed out the irony that saddam would go on trial on the same day as rove and cheney were indicted if they're indicted today?

man, that would be a great day for freedom

10/19/2005 7:07:10 AM

^

ahaaaa. please.

they expedited this shit becuase it makes for a great distraction.


we pull every string in the iraq gov.

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 7:11 AM. Reason : -]

10/19/2005 7:10:52 AM

Quote :

"anyone who has been watching the prez knows hes looked like shit in public "

George will be left rudderless without Rove and Cheney.

10/19/2005 7:26:07 AM

Quote :

" Had lunch today with a person who has a direct tie to one of the folks facing indictment in the Plame affair. There are 22 files that Fitzgerald is looking at for potential indictment . These include Stephen Hadley, Karl Rove, Lewis Libby, Dick Cheney, and Mary Matalin (there are others of course). Hadley has told friends he expects to be indicted. No wonder folks are nervous at the White House. "

http://noquarter.typepad.com/my_weblog/2005/10/a_new_tidbit_on.html

10/19/2005 9:44:10 AM

Is there still supposed to be an announcement today?

10/19/2005 9:52:59 AM

Quote :

"and Mary Matalin"

when i initially read that, I thought of Mary Mapes and about died for joy

then i realized it's different people and got sad again

10/19/2005 10:00:53 AM

Quote :

"Individuals familiar with Fitzgerald’s case tell RAW STORY that John Hannah, a senior national security aide on loan to Vice President Dick Cheney from the offices of then-Under Secretary of State for Arms Control and International Security Affairs, John Bolton, was named as a target of Fitzgerald’s probe. They say he was told in recent weeks that he could face imminent indictment for his role in leaking Plame-Wilson’s name to reporters unless he cooperated with the investigation. Others close to the probe say that if Hannah is cooperating with the special prosecutor then he was likely going to be charged as a co-conspirator and may have cut a deal. "

http://www.rawstory.com/

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 12:41 PM. Reason : -]

10/19/2005 12:39:01 PM

From the press gaggle this morning:

Quote :

"QUESTION: Scott, is it true that the President -- SCOTT McCLELLAN: Welcome back. QUESTION: Thanks. Is it true that the President slapped Karl Rove upside the head a couple of years ago over the CIA leak? SCOTT McCLELLAN: Are you referring to, what, a New York Daily News report? Two things: One, we're not commenting on an ongoing investigation; two, and I would challenge the overall accuracy of that news account. QUESTION: That's a comment. QUESTION: Which part of it? QUESTION: Yes, that is. QUESTION: Which facts -- SCOTT McCLELLAN: No, I'm just saying -- no, I'm just trying to help you all. QUESTION: So what facts are you challenging? SCOTT McCLELLAN: Again, I'm not going to comment on an ongoing investigation. QUESTION: You can't say you're challenging the facts and then not say which ones you're challenging. SCOTT McCLELLAN: Yes, I can. I just did."

10/19/2005 4:58:46 PM

The best article on the entire matter that I've ever read:
http://www.stratfor.com/products/premium/weekly.php

Doesn't have a political bent at all. Just explains in no uncertain terms why this investigation matters.

10/19/2005 5:17:47 PM

Quote :

"QUESTION: Thanks. Is it true that the President slapped Karl Rove upside the head a couple of years ago over the CIA leak? SCOTT McCLELLAN: Are you referring to, what, a New York Daily News report? Two things: One, we're not commenting on an ongoing investigation; two, and I would challenge the overall accuracy of that news account. QUESTION: That's a comment."

BWHAHAHAHAHAH


that poor guy. im sure hes a great guy...but damn does he hate his job

10/19/2005 5:22:36 PM

im willing to bet that he loves his job...he just told everyone in the press corp to shove it and that he isnt going to play by thier rules

10/19/2005 5:26:13 PM

Whatever. Ari was a lying snivelling cunt, but he was a shitload better at what he did than McC.

10/19/2005 5:27:53 PM

^^ Yeah, it's great when the gov. doesn't feel the need to answer for anything, right?

[Edited on October 19, 2005 at 5:29 PM. Reason : ]

10/19/2005 5:29:25 PM

Gamecat, I'd say there is definitely a political bent to the column you posted. Its not extreme to the left, but its definitely to the left.

10/19/2005 5:30:46 PM

McClellan can't hold a candle to Fleischer.

10/19/2005 5:33:35 PM

^this is true

its almost llike mcclellan has a soul underneath....meh...maybe

10/19/2005 5:35:28 PM

none of thatmatters....he still loves his job

10/19/2005 6:15:28 PM