and you can be damn sure Apple is laughing all the way to the bank with the extra $$ you think the name justifies paying for inferior ( cheaper!1 ) functionality

maybe you Apple faggots would have half a fuck's chance of getting some decent hardware out of your love-corp if you didn't buy any bit of decomposing feces they shat out and branded

10/23/2005 8:22:08 AM

actually the margin on the iPod is a fraction of what it is for their other products.
Apple has cut prices in order to compete with the other manufacturers

and ironically their success with the iPod is hurting their overall gross margin

10/23/2005 8:40:22 AM

your point? it's still overpriced and lacking in functionality, regardless of how much more overpriced the rest of their offerings are... particularly considering how hard they suck, too.

10/23/2005 8:43:26 AM

^^ You're wrong

Read their annual report.

Ipods+iTunes bring them the second most revenue.

10/23/2005 8:51:06 AM

fucktards..what the fuck are you talking about??

30Gb iPOD, color, video, big screen, super-thin for 299 bucks is overprised??

I had my iPod for 2 years now. I dropped it on concrete, i sat on it, and put it thru a lot of fucking abuse. It still works like new.

10/23/2005 9:33:46 AM

fag

10/23/2005 10:13:38 AM

you know what


I actually agree with tiberius here



iPods are the gayest thing known to man

10/23/2005 10:27:46 AM

how about you justify why you think its soo gay to have an iPod..

10/23/2005 10:44:41 AM

The fact that you're getting so up in arms about it more than justifies it

10/23/2005 10:48:09 AM

How about you get one for free, still gay? I think not.

10/23/2005 11:15:36 AM

I'd break it. On purpose.

10/23/2005 11:22:17 AM

Quote :

"30Gb iPOD, color, video, big screen, super-thin for 299 bucks is overprised??"

overprised? no.

overpriced? yes.

10/23/2005 11:22:28 AM

what's that condition where someone notices something is popular and then calls it gay for that reason?

oh yeah, jealousy.

10/23/2005 11:25:02 AM

exactly.

10/23/2005 11:43:02 AM

Nah, I doubt it. I don't really care for them, but I have little to no use for one, personally. I'm no longer in college, so I rarely go walking places anymore. I have a nice XM radio in my car, and I have XM online and a great stereo in my house. The only place I'd want a portable music player is when I'm mowing the yard, and I sure as hell ain't spending 300 bucks for something I use twice a month for 2 hours.

Now if I was still in college and walked many places, then I might be able to justify it. But not right now.

10/23/2005 12:11:00 PM

I had one before they were the ultra trendy thing to have. It had nice sound quality compared to everything else out there and was $212 on ebay for a 20gb. Then it broke when I walked passed a desk and I clipped it and it fell out of that gay holster that comes with it, damaging the hard drive platters. If I ever bought a portable music player again, even though I don't think I would since I have a laptop, but if I did, I'd buy something with a decently sized screen and hard drive that played video and had easily upgradeable codecs.
I'd buy one of these:
http://www.buy.com/prod/Creative_Zen_Portable_Media_Center_Video_and_MP3_Player_20GB/q/loc/111/90138247.html
or these:
http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90146922&SearchEngine=Froogle&SearchTerm=90146922&Type=PE&Category=Elec&Gad=0&dcaid=17379

Apple innovated once, and how now grown stagnant in development and let their shit sell based on reputation, looks, and trendiness, changing very little and being surpassed by the competition in terms of functionality and quality.

[Edited on October 23, 2005 at 12:28 PM. Reason : d]

10/23/2005 12:26:28 PM

Quote :

"30Gb iPOD, color, video, big screen, super-thin for 299 bucks is overprised??"

Have you been living on a different planet?

2 inch screen for $300 is not "overprised"?

10/23/2005 12:51:05 PM

Quote :

"A company that ships MP3 players with viruses and has their top-of-the-line sound cards' eprom wiped when another pci card is inserted needs to go bankrupt."

FUCK CREATIVE LABS

10/23/2005 1:16:15 PM

Quote :

"^^ You're wrong Read their annual report. Ipods+iTunes bring them the second most revenue."

yet another example of you not reading correctly

yes their revenue is way up but their gross margin has been hurt.
Revenue is great but doesn't tell the whole story because as your margin decreases you have to sell more to bring in equivalent profit. durrr

10/23/2005 1:25:43 PM

I got mine for free so I think it was a pretty good deal. And I also think that many people must be closet homosexuals to label the sexual preference of others based upon the products that they use.

10/23/2005 1:27:25 PM

^^ Read their annual report, dumbo

10/23/2005 1:29:07 PM

i like my rio

10/23/2005 1:41:19 PM

Size sells. Fuck your line-in-recording and bajillion hours of playback

10/23/2005 1:53:01 PM

I don't get it either. People don't talk to each other anymore.

10/23/2005 1:55:30 PM

hey esgargs, you don't know everything

educate yourself
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20051021/tc_nm/ipod_apple_dc
http://businessweek.com/technology/content/sep2005/tc20050921_4557.htm

Apple is taking a hit on the Nano right now because of Flash prices.
Until higher capacity flash factories can come online and in light of the failure of the Samsung talks (they didn't want the bad PR related to the pricefixing lawsuits and arguments from SouthKorean manufacturers claiming that Samsung is selling Apple memory below cost hence pending investigations from Korean regulatory commisions)

The way you fail to comprehend the initial argument after several posts and making the same argument over and over again is just embarassing. You do understand the difference between Revenue and Gross Margin no? Oh okay, besides the fact that the latest available Annual Report has no sales of the Nano.

10/23/2005 2:41:22 PM

OHHH HE DROPPED SCIENCE BUSINESS ON DAT ASS

10/23/2005 2:44:27 PM

It's not the iPod which i hate, its iTunes. OMG wtf is that pos program good for? why the fuk can't i just drag n drop out of the box? and btw fuk id3 tags too

10/23/2005 3:23:26 PM

Quote :

"I had one before they were the ultra trendy thing to have. It had nice sound quality compared to everything else out there and was $212 on ebay for a 20gb. Then it broke when I walked passed a desk and I clipped it and it fell out of that gay holster that comes with it, damaging the hard drive platters. If I ever bought a portable music player again, even though I don't think I would since I have a laptop, but if I did, I'd buy something with a decently sized screen and hard drive that played video and had easily upgradeable codecs. I'd buy one of these: http://www.buy.com/prod/Creative_Zen_Portable_Media_Center_Video_and_MP3_Player_20GB/q/loc/111/90138247.html or these: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=90146922&SearchEngine=Froogle&SearchTerm=90146922&Type=PE&Category=Elec&Gad=0&dcaid=17379"

Both of those are quite a bit larger than the iPod, and aimed at different markets.

10/23/2005 3:33:01 PM

^^ Gross Margin isn't rocket science, but you said that iPod sales are hurting Apple's profit/gross margins. You also said that it is hurting their overall business. Now please do tell me is a reduction in gross margins at the benefit of 300% increased revenues better than not having anything at all?

I fail to see how it is "hurting" them. And they ain't anywhere cheap. Both the articles you linked to just say that Jobs prefers something like a 20% margin on everything...but don't say that Apple is actually playing a losing game.

I know everything.

10/23/2005 3:38:56 PM

Quote :

"I know everything."

This one is going to haunt you.

10/23/2005 3:46:25 PM

a pretty large percentage of people rock 'em on the subway everyday -- i'm pretty sure they're not all homosexual.

-ZiP!-

10/23/2005 3:46:29 PM

Faggits.

10/23/2005 3:50:08 PM

Quote :

"a pretty large percentage of people rock 'em on the subway everyday -- i'm pretty sure they're not all homosexual."

One could argue that most men who travel in NYC subways are gay.

10/23/2005 3:54:46 PM

my iriver was expensive for 1gb ($120), but it's pretty much more than i'll ever need and the battery lasts for a long time/user replaceable.

the shape wasn't that great, but the new ones take care of that.

[Edited on October 23, 2005 at 4:32 PM. Reason : i just couldn't imagine paying over $150 for something that just plays portable music.]

10/23/2005 4:31:32 PM

its the people that dont have ipods that hate

10/23/2005 5:03:24 PM

I got mine for free playing PS2 online

beat that, suckas

10/23/2005 5:04:44 PM

they are trendy, so if you get one just hide it. But they do look cool, and the navigation thing to find your music is pretty cool. I like it.

10/23/2005 8:18:10 PM

HAHAHAHAHA its amazing how much crap people talk.
I-pods are fucking brilliant. I personally dont own one coz i havent saved enough just yet but they are innovative and practical, just what people today like.
also ive noticed that most people that hate it so much, are jealous coz they dont have one, so lets not be band-wagon haters here.

saying the ipod sucks is like hating the yankees, dont hate em coz they are good!!!

10/23/2005 8:25:20 PM

d00d

I can afford 10 iPods tonight within the hour.

I won't get one because I'd much rather burn my money on fireworks.

10/23/2005 8:31:34 PM

Quote :

"I can afford 10 iPods tonight within the hour."

want to try that again?

10/23/2005 8:34:46 PM

let's not be a fucking fanboy



an ipod isn't practical for people like me - people who own a cd/mp3 player headunit in their car, or who are around computers enough that they don't need a goddamned portable mp3 player


and it's not even that I have anything against mp3 players, I just hate how fucking fagmos like you get all fucking randy because apple released a new iPod that does *X* when there are about 6 billion things out there on the market that do the same goddamned thing


and to be honest

people do fucking buy them because it's "trendy," and it's the stupidest fucking trend EVER, based off of the idea of the "oh look at me" factor instead of providing something that's fucking PRACTICAL (notice I haven't said shit about blackberries/treos/whatever because they serve a PURPOSE)



OH CHECK ME OUT, YO

I'MS LISSNEN TO MAH IPODS WHILE I WALK TA CLASS

BUMPIN DAT FIDDY CENTS AND JESSICAR SIMPSONS





OH WHUTS UP GIRL I SEES U HAVE AN IPODS TEW, BUT URS IS BLAX OMG!!!1

10/23/2005 8:35:29 PM

an Ipod is almost as good an investment as my Pink V6 Mustang.

10/23/2005 8:37:40 PM

hater in the house

10/23/2005 8:39:41 PM

a true hater hates the air



man, you got a car? why I ain't got a car?

[Edited on October 23, 2005 at 8:41 PM. Reason : hater of the year]

10/23/2005 8:40:59 PM

atleast the pink Mustang pulls some chicks.

10/23/2005 8:41:15 PM

Quote :

"it's still overpriced and lacking in functionality"

How does it lack in functionality? Its an mp3 player and it plays mp3s.

10/23/2005 8:55:47 PM

It lacks support for basic music subscription services.

The iTunes DRM scheme is a joke.

10/23/2005 8:57:56 PM

I was kind of annoyed when I got that free rhapsody trial thing for going to state that I couldn't throw any of the music on my ipod. meh, it just encourages me to keep stealing my music anyways.

10/23/2005 9:00:19 PM

*pushes up nerdy bifocals and says in a nasal voice*
"but it won't work with any of my legally purchased downoad mmmm-services!"

10/23/2005 9:14:57 PM

you would think it was a law that if you don't own an ipod you can't live.

don't buy one or look at one if you don't like it, faggs.

10/23/2005 9:16:29 PM