JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
post here. we only lost to v tech by 4 points. it just sucks we got it all working so late in the season. 11/6/2005 3:59:03 AM |
CalledToArms All American 22025 Posts user info edit post |
we still played like crap 90% of the season 11/6/2005 4:00:25 AM |
JayMCnasty All American 14180 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it just sucks we got it all working so late in the season." |
11/6/2005 4:05:57 AM |
SuperMyers1 Veteran 301 Posts user info edit post |
ill admit, i was disapointed but i never lost faith, i just know not to be optimistic with ncsu sports, wins are that much better that way 11/6/2005 4:15:04 AM |
Maugan All American 18178 Posts user info edit post |
here here. 11/6/2005 8:34:49 AM |
jamz0r All American 1612 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "it just sucks we got it all working so late in the season." |
11/6/2005 10:27:35 AM |
Defenestrate All American 2158 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "ill admit, i was disapointed but i never lost faith, i just know not to be optimistic with ncsu sports, wins are that much better that way" |
11/6/2005 10:38:35 AM |
skumstea All American 541 Posts user info edit post |
Uhhh Hello? We won 1 game! I know it was a big win and gives us a good shot to go bowlin, but c'mon, we should be like 6-2 not 4 and 4. There is no way I can justify the loss to Carolina or Wake, C'mon, we should be contenders here not spoilers. But still, great win! I think we can win out if we keep runnin the ball like this! 11/6/2005 10:38:40 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
its outstanding that we beat florida state, i couldn't be happier.
but this is precisely the problem that i think everyone has with the program...absolute inconsistency. Its great to knock off top rated teams but if you cant beat the clemson's of the world then what does it really matter.
i think theres definately some truth to our players considering fsu the rivalry, and not unc 11/6/2005 10:44:37 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
I really dont buy that. I think that if you rush for 180 yards on anyone and limit turnovers you can win the game.
We couldn't rush at all vs. UNC.... and I dont think we did much vs. Wake either (I didn't get to see that game) 11/6/2005 10:49:40 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
i hope you arent suggesting that unc or wake has a better rush defense than florida state 11/6/2005 11:05:07 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Not at all... but for some reason (Andre Brown), we've been able to run well recently when we haven't been able to all season
Put it this way, without 180 yards yesterday we don't beat FSU. With 180 vs Wake or UNC, we win those games.
I don't think it's streakiness that made us beat FSU... it's the fact that we ran the ball well and didn't turn it over. 11/6/2005 11:08:07 AM |
kiljadn All American 44690 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "C'mon, we should be contenders here not spoilers." |
11/6/2005 11:09:51 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
so what happens when the next team stops our run? 11/6/2005 11:13:10 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
we lose
unless we have a balanced attack we're going to struggle like hell. 11/6/2005 11:19:32 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
all it takes is for someone to put 8 in the box, or a 3-4 defense to kill the run. then we're screwed 11/6/2005 11:26:51 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
you are correct
We're not going to be good without a QB. Like I said last night, if we find a QB... I really think we have a whole lot to work with. We're not as bad as our record says 11/6/2005 11:31:59 AM |
phishnlou All American 13446 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | " I don't think it's streakiness that made us beat FSU... it's the fact that we ran the ball well and didn't turn it over." |
i kind of think you are contradicting yourself...its our inconsitency that makes it a complete crapshoot whether or not we turn the ball over a million times, and our hyped beyond belief running attack sometimes just doesnt show up11/6/2005 11:32:54 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
Why are the game stats not up on ESPN.com? The attack seemed pretty even balanced to me....maybe favoring the run a little more. Gotta remember stone tried to throw a bunch and never got the ball off...but at least he didnt lose a million yards in the process. 11/6/2005 11:39:02 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Yeah, I see what you're saying. I agree a lot.
I do think the reason we can run the ball now is becuase of the change that happened in the backfield (Whether it be Brown or Stone) and not just becuase of inconsistent OLine play. It'll be interesting to see if we can continue it.... or like you said... they forget to show up one week 11/6/2005 11:40:23 AM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
teams are gonna adjust to our run game. Our O-line is gonna have to counter it. We don't have the power and size to line up and run the ball down teams throats every game. Stone is going to have to mature very very quickly 11/6/2005 11:44:55 AM |
wolfAApack All American 9980 Posts user info edit post |
well, if you noticed last night, FSU stacked the box almost on every play, and we still had some success running it. Even the announcers were saying "Florida State is DARING Marcus Stone to throw the ball on every play"
I agree with that statement on paper, but who knows at this point...this is the wierdest season I have ever seen. 11/6/2005 11:49:10 AM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "teams are gonna adjust to our run game. Our O-line is gonna have to counter it. We don't have the power and size to line up and run the ball down teams throats every game. Stone is going to have to mature very very quickly" |
Notice BC is next.
BC is very different from the rest of the ACC. They're a smashmouth, old-Nebraska style team. I hope we can find some lanes with their physical defense.11/6/2005 11:57:45 AM |
skokiaan All American 26447 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "all it takes is for someone to put 8 in the box, or a 3-4 defense to kill the run. then we're screwed" |
you mean like what FSU did? Seriously, do you even watch the game. What happened was that we only had a couple of run plays go long or make first downs. That's all we need if we don't turn the ball over. Furthermore, stone actually moved the sticks at key times and made a TD, pass.
I'd still be more concerned about offensive blocking schemes and plays that will work. We obviously had a few that worked in the last 2 games, and I hope we come up with some that will work against whatever adjustments BC might make.11/6/2005 12:07:49 PM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
fsu didnt put 8 in the box you fool. they played a 4-3 defense
and at certain times they played a 5-2!!!! did u watch the game asshole
4+3 = 7 5+2 =7
[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 12:10 PM. Reason : you obviously dont know football] 11/6/2005 12:09:18 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
They put 8 in the box a lot of times... but they blitzed like crazy
Regardless of how many the had in the box, thier safeties were on the line a lot more than they would have been if we had a passing threat 11/6/2005 12:16:14 PM |
theone Suspended 694 Posts user info edit post |
They did not put 8 in the box that many times. fsu stays in a 4-3 man defense, and very seldomly comes out. They might go to a nickel at times, and take nickelson out of the game. Yesterday, their safeties just either got ran the fuck over, or, got taken out by our huge t-ends
[Edited on November 6, 2005 at 12:21 PM. Reason : correction] 11/6/2005 12:19:46 PM |
Wlfpk4Life All American 5613 Posts user info edit post |
11/6/2005 12:21:01 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
aha nice 11/6/2005 12:21:52 PM |
socrates Suspended 1964 Posts user info edit post |
fsu played a 4-3 BASE DEFENSE that doesnt mean they can only have 7 guys in hte box. they brought blitzes up off the safety corner u name it. they even had 7 or 8 in the box on some 3rd and long situations. fsu is one of the best run ds in the country. they know what theyre doing. andre brown is just that good. give him his props. the only thing that can beat us at this point is us (turnovers and penalties) 11/6/2005 1:27:41 PM |
PackBacker All American 14415 Posts user info edit post |
eh, I wouldn't say that
We're still not a very good team. One-dimensional teams can easily be beaten. 11/6/2005 1:29:01 PM |