I searched, didn't find this anywhere.. and I just saw it on espn even though it was done on October 14th..

Jay Bilas has us 13th, and some guy from San Diego had us 14th but we were pretty much absent from everybody else's except for a few 25th spots... its weird how alot of people (on here too) either think we're going to be really good.. or really bad, ok well maybe not bad.. but not that good

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2190957

[Edited on November 8, 2005 at 4:53 PM. Reason : link]

11/8/2005 4:52:56 PM

We just arent consistent. We usually have the talent and ability to beat any team in the country on a given night, but we usually manage to fuck it up.

11/8/2005 4:54:58 PM

Any team with both talent & questions (losing Hodge, PG) has that happen. That's no different than our football team.

11/8/2005 4:55:47 PM

we will be experienced as shit this year

11/8/2005 4:56:49 PM

15 people, and only 3 of them have you ranked. Not a good way to start the season

11/8/2005 5:02:58 PM

^ Being you. Not a good way to exist.

11/8/2005 5:05:57 PM

I don't hype myself into something Im not. I know I suck at life and am happy with my position.

11/8/2005 5:07:10 PM

why are you worried about where we are ranked, when havent played a game that matters yet?

11/8/2005 5:07:53 PM

Exactly. This thread shouldn't even exist.

11/8/2005 5:09:58 PM

You shouldn't exist on here either, but you do.

11/8/2005 5:12:46 PM

Lets face it people. Our system is too complex for these new guys to pick it up fast and run it like pros.

This season is going to be like the past several.

We will start off slow and struggle, and finally when the new guys get the hang of things, and the chemistry happens, we'll turn it on in time for the tourney and the dance.

One of these years we'll assemble 5-7 guys with 2-3 years experience total, they will peak sooner, and we will actually go very deep into the tourney but NCSU won't win it again for a very long time, not with Herbs system.

I'd be perfectly happy to be a yearly sweet 16 team with once every 4-5 year dips into the final four.

To ask more than that out of NCSU basketball is deluding yourself.

11/8/2005 5:20:33 PM

after the guelph game i dont think were good. i do agree that its gonna take time and improvements will happen but its gonna be a sad first half of the season

11/8/2005 5:26:43 PM

^Who gives a fuck? It was Guelph, Braxton played as much as Atsur. Some of you people are pathetic.

11/8/2005 5:54:47 PM

we had 7 points in the first 12 minutes. that has nothing to do with atsur not having enough minutes. we looked bad plain and simple. "it was only guelph so we didnt try 100%" may explain us not winning by 50" but it does not excuse inability to score.

11/8/2005 6:02:34 PM

...it was also the FIRST GAME.

You think any offense just magically clicks into place?

Did you watch the Spurs play their first regular season game? Their offense didn't fall into place until the 4th quarter, and that was even after multiple preseason games.

11/8/2005 6:09:02 PM

We had major problems scoring last year, and that was WITH Hodge in the lineup. Its gonna be ugly at times this year when we go 5 minutes or more without a basket.

11/8/2005 6:23:50 PM

Carolina lost to Santa Clara the first game of last season.

National Champions.

First game means almost nothing.

11/8/2005 6:34:43 PM

^^ hate to say it, but Hodge was half the reason we went 4 - 5 minutes without a basket. He would get deseperate and shoot beyond the arc (with his 12% from 3 point land stat).

He's a hell of a player and I'm not trolling, but he had his inconsistencies too.

11/8/2005 6:35:39 PM

Eh, I'd blame it more on the fact that we didn't really have good, developed inside players.

But now we do.

11/8/2005 6:39:05 PM

^I agree with that, but we also didn't have any consistent perimeter shooters in the first half of last season. Towards the end of the year Evtimov and others heated up, like they always seem to.


I would expect us to struggle from behind the arc again during the first half of the year, which will lead to some very frustrating scoring droughts.

11/8/2005 6:41:23 PM

struggling behind the arc almost spells doom for a princeton offense.

11/8/2005 6:42:56 PM

I just think we need to hold off on these predictions based on the last few years.

Just looking at this roster (and the way they approached Guelph), I get the impression that we're going to see a pretty different style this year.

So no reason to predict doom until we've seen some real games.

11/8/2005 6:44:09 PM

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"Exactly. This thread shouldn't even exist. "

How's GA State's golf team??




I think a lot of the "experts" think we wont be that good because we lost Hodge. A lot of the "experts" never really watched this team, and if you haven't watched the team then you just assume this team was all Hodge, so you'll probably pick us to struggle this year.

Guys like Jay Bilas who watch A LOT of ACC know that there is a lot more to this team than Hodge. We might struggle early this year...but we are probably the most experienced team in the ACC...so I don't see big early season struggles this year compared to past year's.

I'm extremely optimistic about this year's team.

11/8/2005 6:50:07 PM

^Yeah, I'd pretty much agree with that assessment.

I want to wait and see how we match up with 'Bama and ND. At that point, we'll have a pretty good idea of what this team is capable of.

11/8/2005 6:55:12 PM

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"I just think we need to hold off on these predictions based on the last few years. "

exactly why we can make these predictions. based on what we've seen the past few years. inconsistent teams. thats what has been consistent with the program under herb. we might show flashes of greatness, then we'll suck it up. and when we think the season's over, we'll win a big game.

11/8/2005 6:58:34 PM

^that goes for NC State in general.

11/8/2005 7:06:34 PM

You would think MacGyver would shut up in a basketball thread since both schools he "attended"/cheers for have won a total of one NC and have both been investigated for cheating latley.

11/8/2005 9:44:16 PM

yeah how are teh OSU and GA doing in pre-season rankings there macfagyr?

11/9/2005 8:27:53 AM

Just ignore the trolls, please.

Because right now you're just walking into a trap, since OSU has a commit from the top recruit in their next class.

11/9/2005 8:31:45 AM

^^I've never said a word about UGA basketball, and as far as OSU basketball, they have gone farther than NCSU has in the past, oh....20 years. And as far as those preseason polls, 4 out of the 15 people on that list have OSU ranked preseason. 1 more than NCSU. I guess you didnt look up that little fact before you tried to talk shit to me.

11/9/2005 3:15:23 PM

They're also under investigation by the NCAA. But I guess you're use to that being an OSU football fan too.

11/9/2005 3:24:39 PM

um

NCSU is on 4 of those lists

11/9/2005 3:27:09 PM

My bad, I stand corrected. Either way, they are tied, so its hard for you to sit here and talk shit. Oh, and who cares if they are under investigation. That just shows they got caught. Every team in the NCAA pretty much has a violation. And don't be so stupid to think they don't.

11/9/2005 3:58:25 PM

can someone please ban macgyver from sports talk.

11/9/2005 3:59:45 PM

If Im such an idiot, who only posts junk, then just ignore me and don't take me so damn serious then. Its the fucking internet, get a life.

11/9/2005 4:00:53 PM

I used to argue with MacGyver. Then I realized that there is really no point. He is a God in his own world.

[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 4:10 PM. Reason : f]

11/9/2005 4:09:07 PM

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"Its the fucking internet, get a life."

If you'd only listen to yourself. You come onto an nc state message board and trash every single athletic department we have. It's the fucking internet, get a life.

11/9/2005 4:10:18 PM

^^Finally, someone understands me!

^Whats worse, what I do, or how you take it so seriously and get pissed off?

11/9/2005 4:15:23 PM

the only time I've ever been pissed at you (or USED ALL CAPS) was when we beat fsu. I thought it was necessary and highly appropriate then.

You don't piss me off as much as you annoy me. And you really are fucking annoying.

11/9/2005 4:16:25 PM

In other poll news:

When are people going to to finally figure out that Gonzaga will never get past the 2nd round of the tournament? Sure, they have the talent, but they can't beat a team from a major conference come tournament time. They might have top 10 talent, but when do they ever beat anyone in the top 10? I'd never pick them to do better than the WCC championship.

I mean, theyre good, but people suck their dick every year and they never get past the 2nd round (save that one year they got their first exposure)

11/9/2005 4:17:18 PM

They made the Elite 8 in '99. FWIW.

11/9/2005 4:18:08 PM

And every year since '99, all we've heard is "THIS IS GONZAGA'S YEAR TO GO ALL THE WAY!!!111!!"

11/9/2005 4:25:25 PM

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"Carolina lost to Santa Clara the first game of last season."

we haven't played our first game yet, we won't do that until the 18th.

11/9/2005 4:30:51 PM

^^^yeah, their cinderella run is what started it all.

funny how theyre better now, but cant win shit.

[Edited on November 9, 2005 at 6:47 PM. Reason : .]

11/9/2005 6:47:41 PM

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"How's GA State's golf team?? "

#7 in the nation friend

11/9/2005 7:52:14 PM

http://insider.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=2197664&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fncb%2fnews%2fstory%3fid%3d2197664

11/10/2005 12:19:47 AM

all this talk, Regardless who we've played


We're 1-0!!!! SHUT UP and give the players some credit. It's not even december yet and everyone's worried about rankings

11/10/2005 7:46:20 AM

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"hondaguy All American 2109 Posts user info edit post Quote : "Carolina lost to Santa Clara the first game of last season." we haven't played our first game yet, we won't do that until the 18th. "

we, who the fuck is this we you speak of hondaguy, are you another UNCFag posting on a NCSU board

11/10/2005 8:54:03 AM

I think he was saying NCSU hasn't played their first game of the real season yet and we could still lose it

11/10/2005 9:39:59 AM