Musickman Starting Lineup 68 Posts user info edit post |
I would have to say Vince Young because even though i think Reggie Bush is a more exciting player because he has just been getting mediocre stats because USC is blowing everyone away. And he doesn't even start on his own team. LenDale White has more TD's anyway. 11/14/2005 4:56:32 PM |
stoncuttr All American 2149 Posts user info edit post |
voters need to ask themselves two questions:
Where would Texas be without Vince Young?
and
Where would USC be without Reggie Bush or Matt Leinart?
and the Heisman winner will be obvious
[Edited on November 14, 2005 at 5:00 PM. Reason : 3] 11/14/2005 4:59:45 PM |
davelen21 All American 4119 Posts user info edit post |
USC would be fine because they dont play anyone 11/14/2005 5:00:10 PM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
^^ that is not the question. The question is who is the best player, not who means the most to their team. Its not an mvp 11/14/2005 5:01:05 PM |
LudaChris All American 7946 Posts user info edit post |
At this point Matt's not really in contention for it unless he really changes something up the next few weeks and puts up monster numbers.
It's pretty much(if both go undefeated) Young vs. Bush.
Most analyst are saying Bush, but if he repeats his performance last week too many times I think he'll slide.
I think Bush deserved it last year, so I figure he'll get it this year though I think Young is VERY deserving. 11/14/2005 5:12:57 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Matt
whats the difference in this year vs. last? 11/14/2005 5:13:54 PM |
Sleik All American 11177 Posts user info edit post |
Vince Young is having an amazing year, I don't think any QB on their team would have them in the position they are in right now. 11/14/2005 5:16:03 PM |
packfan08 Veteran 139 Posts user info edit post |
I dont know neither team really plays anyone beside USC vs NOTRE DAME, and TEXAS vs OHIO STATE so I think its a toss up. Who ever is more popular. 11/14/2005 5:30:26 PM |
goalielax All American 11252 Posts user info edit post |
Matt should get it, but Young will b/c of split vtes on the USC squad...hell, white should be considered as well...he's a monster back too. 11/14/2005 5:40:02 PM |
fatcatt316 All American 3812 Posts user info edit post |
I'm surprised no one has mentioned Jay Davis yet 11/14/2005 7:03:30 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
whatever fucking Heisman you could ever think of should go to Vince Young hands fucking down
its not even about giving it to the best QB on the best team
this man is the truth, everyone knows it 11/14/2005 7:43:45 PM |
hondaguy All American 6409 Posts user info edit post |
^^thats cause marcus stone is gonna win it 11/14/2005 7:44:50 PM |
socrates Suspended 1964 Posts user info edit post |
^neither will win because the two of them will split their votes 11/14/2005 8:04:49 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
I would vote for Vince. Reggie Bush just happens to play on a high profile team. I mean, heisman consideration could be given for White, Bush, or Leinart. I couldn't name Texas' running backs, or any of their wideouts.
As much as Texas scores, Vince isn't even getting in on all of those. Just think of how well he could potentially be padding his stats if he was responsible for all the scores.
If Bush wasn't responsible for returning kicks/punts, he probably wouldn't be this high on the heisman list. 11/14/2005 8:18:34 PM |
NCSUMEB All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
Would you rather have Bush or Young on your team. In college, Bush, in the pros, Bush 11/14/2005 9:29:06 PM |
republicanBT All American 2190 Posts user info edit post |
Leinart- Won it last year and has better numbers this year 11/14/2005 10:03:00 PM |
Jaybee1200 Suspended 56200 Posts user info edit post |
to11/14/2005 10:04:11 PM |
SuperDude All American 6922 Posts user info edit post |
Personally, I don't want to see a two-time Heisman winner in my lifetime. There's a mystique about only one guy (Archie Griffin..?) being able to win it, and I like it that way. 11/14/2005 10:09:36 PM |
JT3bucky All American 23258 Posts user info edit post |
Whoever has the better game in the national championship wins it 11/14/2005 11:39:08 PM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
isn't the heisman determined before the title game?
i could be wrong.
I'd vote for Vince Young too, although the talks like Radio. 11/14/2005 11:50:11 PM |
stowaway All American 11770 Posts user info edit post |
yeah, heisman awarded before the bowl games. 11/14/2005 11:53:56 PM |
rosschilen All American 1025 Posts user info edit post |
I'd say Bush b/c he is disgustingly nasty. Have you seen him play? I will admit Young does have some nice pump fakes then 40 yard runs. 11/15/2005 12:33:31 AM |
Schlonger All American 3377 Posts user info edit post |
Quote : | "Early Heisman would go too...." |
I think you mean, "also"11/15/2005 12:46:31 AM |
Fermata All American 3771 Posts user info edit post |
Reggie Bush should get it considering how he almost singlehandedly won 3+ games for USC this season. 11/15/2005 12:59:59 AM |
msb2ncsu All American 14033 Posts user info edit post |
Vince Young is amazing this year. QB's always get the pref treatment so it will go to him if they go undefeated. Reggie Bush has been ungodly this year but he only has a hand in about 1/3 of USC's offensive plays and they clearly have so many weapons. 11/15/2005 1:38:23 AM |
Wolfood98 All American 2684 Posts user info edit post |
either Matt Leinart, or the runing back from Memphis(too bad I think he just sprained his ankle or something). 11/15/2005 1:48:33 AM |
Wtbrowne32 Veteran 414 Posts user info edit post |
Olson from UCLA is the most deserving at this point in my opinion... UCLA is not an ultra-talented team like USC or Texas, Olson has eye-popping numbers and his team only has one loss... I can't believe he isn't even really being talked about. 11/15/2005 9:28:31 AM |
Docido All American 4642 Posts user info edit post |
^ They were talked about their amazing 3-string of comeback games. Then they were pretty talked about until they were demolished by Arizona. 11/15/2005 9:32:09 AM |
jdennis86 All American 3004 Posts user info edit post |
young is my winner. bush and white split west coast votes with each other. John David Booty could do the same as leinart if he was playing 11/15/2005 9:40:18 AM |
DROD900 All American 24658 Posts user info edit post |
usc has too many other options on their team besides Bush
vince young has less talent around him, yet they blow everyone out of the water...the games arent even close
I think that 500+ total yards game for Young put him over the top in my opinion 11/15/2005 10:34:51 AM |
buddha1747 All American 5067 Posts user info edit post |
^ I think Vince should win it but Texas played maybe 2 games in which they werent supposed to roll over their opponent. OSU and TT and they rolled TT so your argument isnt as sound as you think. 11/15/2005 10:46:17 AM |
BobbyDigital Thots and Prayers 41777 Posts user info edit post |
But how does that play into the heisman voting?
It's so subjective that it's going to come down to whomever is the biggest media darling at that time. It's so close between the three, but i think having two of them on the same team will ultimately hurt the chances of Leinart or Bush winning it. Some voters might be swayed against leinart simply because he won it last year. 11/15/2005 10:53:53 AM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
im sure Mack Brown is gonna lobby again
so vince better win it 11/15/2005 1:42:26 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
A.J. Hawk 11/15/2005 1:57:26 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
sadly it wont go to him 11/15/2005 1:57:55 PM |
9one9 All American 21497 Posts user info edit post |
yeah i need him to slide to the giants anyways 11/15/2005 1:59:33 PM |
shields27 All American 1806 Posts user info edit post |
I dont htink he'll slide to the end
hah go giants 11/15/2005 5:24:47 PM |
Hedgeapple All American 2530 Posts user info edit post |
^^haha yea thats a pipe dream
Houstan Texans are gettin him 11/15/2005 6:49:39 PM |
bigstatemain All American 736 Posts user info edit post |
FUCK THE OHIO STATE UNIVERSITY!!!! 11/15/2005 8:37:29 PM |
Musickman Starting Lineup 68 Posts user info edit post |
^Fuck you! Go Bucks! Fuck Michigan! 11/16/2005 4:28:03 PM |