I've begun to notice that when I leave tips on my checkcard, they either not processed at all or at a reduced rate (for example, i left a 4 dollar tip at saucer monday on a 7.50 bill, and it is only showing up as a 9 dollar credit)... has this ever happened to anyone else?

11/16/2005 12:18:04 PM

I don't quite know how to put this but, tipping is usually around 15%. Maybe your bank thought you were being a little tip crazy and decided to help you out. Where did you go that you left a 54% tip? The Foxy Lady?

11/16/2005 12:22:12 PM

are you sure that's a final charge or are they just putting a hold on your card to make sure you have sufficient funds?

11/16/2005 12:22:27 PM

when it happens to me the waitress jews me out of more tip. if i leave 5 bucks it always turns into 7 or 8

11/16/2005 12:22:35 PM

^^well i mean, they put a tip on there, just not the tip i left (and i usually try to tip well, especially there because I go there alot now, and the bartenders hook it up for me)

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 12:26 PM. Reason : sd]

11/16/2005 12:25:50 PM

so you're are the saucer a lot, eh? Seen anyone sporting a new brown leather jacket, circa halloween night this year?

11/16/2005 12:28:00 PM

A charge isn't final until it clears. If the charge is pending, it could still change.

11/16/2005 12:29:07 PM

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"I don't quite know how to put this but, tipping is usually around 15%. Maybe your bank thought you were being a little tip crazy and decided to help you out. Where did you go that you left a 54% tip? The Foxy Lady?"

I don't quite know how to put this, but there is no law that prohibits people from tipping more than the 15% dictated by conventional wisdom.

Additionally, it might benefit you to learn how large tips can give you a degree of power at bars or restaurants that you frequent.

11/16/2005 12:29:39 PM

ahhahahahhahahahha

what a dumbass.

that quote is classic.

11/16/2005 12:32:39 PM

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"Additionally, it might benefit you to learn how large tips can give you a degree of power at bars or restaurants that you frequent."

What kinda power are we talking about here? Free stuff? Free stuff that you could just buy with that extra tip money?

11/16/2005 12:41:57 PM

n00b

11/16/2005 12:43:44 PM

-Being served quickly at the bar on a busy night
-not having to wait in line to get in
-Being remembered by name by the waitstaff
-not getting charged for all of the drinks you get

I mean, it should be obvious that being generous towards those in the service industry will get you better service in the future.

This has been discussed and debated in several threads. search.

11/16/2005 12:46:33 PM

never overlook the benefit of getting "clean" food also.

11/16/2005 12:49:00 PM

uh, i hate to put it to you guys but 50% tip on beer is NOT unusual, actually for drinks in general. the 15% rule is diff in clubs and bars, in fact 15% is now considered the low end in restaurants ( i don't like it anymore than you, but its true.)

11/16/2005 12:51:09 PM

^^much agreed...

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 12:52 PM. Reason : ...]

11/16/2005 12:52:08 PM

ive had that happen to me... ill tip 20% and then itll show up on my online banking as only 15%.... they do it just to make sure you have enough to tip the waitress 15%.... when they actually process all the cards and run the reports then itll show up correctly in my account statement.

11/16/2005 12:59:59 PM

Fair enough.

Most of the time there's usually just a mug or glass (well, several) at the bar for tips. I always tip in cash and the bartender never even sees me put a tip in there anyway, esp. if it's a busy night.

At restaurants I figure the wait staff see 50 or 60 people per night, they'll never remember me anyway or I'll be in someone else's section the next time.

FWIW I always tip more than 15% if the service is even remotely good, but not 50%+. Maybe around 20 to 25%.

11/16/2005 1:00:31 PM

i have a different issue... the person at the register at the restaurant i ate at the other night added an extra number when she typed in the amount to charge my credit card. she voided the transaction right afterwards but what do you know.... there it is on my pending transactions.

11/16/2005 1:20:40 PM

^ give it a couple of days to clear, and then contact the restaurant/bar if it doesn't.

11/16/2005 1:29:47 PM

Brett, that happens to everyone. It'll change to the correct amount when the transaction is finalized.

11/16/2005 1:32:53 PM

where i work, the credit cards are automatically charged a 20% "tip" to make sure that you don't over draw. when we close out the charges at the end of the night, the true tip- or lack thereof- is reflected the next business day.

a lot of people call and bitch when they pay on a friday and they are charged 20% until monday. in that case, it's your bank or credit card company, not the restaurant.

11/16/2005 1:38:58 PM

Hell, I place I went to the other week put a hold on my card for $100 and I didn't even pay with my card. I just used it to hold the tab and then played cash. And still had a $100 hold for 3-4 business days

11/16/2005 2:04:36 PM

^What place is that?

11/16/2005 2:55:28 PM

i've seen that before on my visa checkcard too. it gets straightened out after a couple days though.


could be a ploy to try and get overages on your account.

11/16/2005 3:03:37 PM

just because 15% is standard doesn't mean you can't give more..especially if you are by yourself and the waitress is really good and the restaurant is dead, come on help some people out every once and a while

11/16/2005 3:08:34 PM

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"I don't quite know how to put this but, tipping is usually around 15%. Maybe your bank thought you were being a little tip crazy and decided to help you out. Where did you go that you left a 54% tip?"

jew

11/16/2005 3:14:01 PM

I usually tip 15% and then round up a dollar or two, so sometimes it is much more than 15%, but not all the time. I just like to pay in even increments...

11/16/2005 3:14:13 PM

what you're seeing is the restaurant reserving your funds for a little more than the cost of your bill, to allow you to add in a tip and not overdraw your account. this is customary for any restaurant or bar, or any place that accepts tips anyways. the charge will become permanent when the company settles out the credit card machine at the end of the night, and the charge clears your account. until that happens, the charge you see is simply an estimate and does not actually reflect what your true charge was.

if you see a discrepancy between what you are charged and what your actual bill + tip amount was, go back to the establishment and cause a fuss. my best friend and i coulda gotten a girl fired for adding tip to our cards one night at Crazy Fire. it was only 3 dollars total though, so it wasn't worth the hassle.


[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 3:19 PM. Reason : /]

11/16/2005 3:18:10 PM

which chick was this?

11/16/2005 3:19:27 PM

hahah, not you...

it was the Crazy Fire on Capital Blvd near Sweet Tomatoes...and as it turns out, she used to work with me at Check 'N Go and i knew her full name and everything. she wasn't very bright.

11/16/2005 3:21:07 PM

I work at the saucer, it is probably just the pre-authorization charge. Anytime you start a tab, your card is pre-authorized based on a certain amount of money....that charge NEVER actually goes through, however (as it says on all our credit card receipts) if you have a check/debit card it might take 24-48 hours to get rid of the pre-auth charge and to add your tip.

11/16/2005 3:28:30 PM

i dont care if a bartender or other server sees elenty billion people that night.

if you leave more than the average THEY WILL REMEMBER YOU, and you will be rewarded for your generosity in the future

and they will remember you if you tip shitty too

11/16/2005 3:39:58 PM

yea, when i used to hit the Goat weekly, we'd leave really good tips in exchange for really low bar tabs. i distinctly remember a liquor drink and shooter night ending in 12 bucks so i leave a 15 dollar tip and they love me....

11/16/2005 3:46:36 PM

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"What place is that?"

"The View" ~ rotating lounge on the 48th floor of the Marriot Marquis in Times Square

11/16/2005 4:29:22 PM

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"if you have a check/debit card it might take 24-48 hours to get rid of the pre-auth charge and to add your tip."

grapehead's weekly wisdom: ALWAYS run a tab on a CREDIT card unless you have like over $1k balance in your account. you dont want your funds frozen when you go to take a girl out the next night and they're all "im sorry sir, your card was declined"

11/16/2005 6:43:57 PM

A pre-authorization on your card is to ensure you would have money on your card to cover a tab. We have been given bad credit cards, and since we didn't do a pre-auth, we had to eat the charges.

[Edited on November 16, 2005 at 7:09 PM. Reason : ...]

11/16/2005 7:08:24 PM

omg how many people are going to feel the need to answer the question


read the thread

11/16/2005 7:28:19 PM

fuck reading the thread

11/16/2005 7:53:47 PM

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"I don't quite know how to put this but, tipping is usually around 15%. Maybe your bank thought you were being a little tip crazy and decided to help you out. Where did you go that you left a 54% tip? The Foxy Lady? "

I dont know how to put this but these people live off of what you give them. 15 percent dosnt do anyone good. Stop being cheap.

11/16/2005 8:03:16 PM

not only a n00b on here, apparently a n00b at life

11/16/2005 8:13:49 PM

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"I dont know how to put this but these people live off of what you give them. 15 percent dosnt do anyone good. Stop being cheap."

I do tip more than 15%, I just thought that 54% was excessive. I still do. Look, I'm all for people having money and I know that wait staff have tough jobs and people go in and expect their minds to be read, get great service and leave $1 on a $30 tab. I think that's wrong.

So to sum it up:
1) I'm not a jew
2) I do tip, usually more than 15%, but never less, even if the service is poor
3) 54% for a beer is too much

11/16/2005 8:20:22 PM

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"-Being served quickly at the bar on a busy night -not having to wait in line to get in -Being remembered by name by the waitstaff -not getting charged for all of the drinks you get I mean, it should be obvious that being generous towards those in the service industry will get you better service in the future. This has been discussed and debated in several threads. search. "

Exactly.

Plus, on a $7.50 bill (which I'm guessing was like 3 beers), $4 tip sounds about right.

Once you guys graduate and get good-paying jobs you will understand and stop being such tight-asses.

11/16/2005 8:46:54 PM

i didnt read all of this thread, so this has prolly been stated.

but tipping on drinks is way different than food. the average tip for a drink in $1. not 15%. if you went to a bar and got 3 $2 drinks, and gave the bartended a $.90 tip....id hope he would tell you to never come back.

11/16/2005 8:52:26 PM

HOW THE FUCK DID THIS TURN INTO ANOTHER INSTRUCTIONAL TIPPING THREAD

YOU STUPID SONS OF BITCHES

11/16/2005 9:24:40 PM

http://www.thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=284707

11/16/2005 9:34:44 PM

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"HOW THE FUCK DID THIS TURN INTO ANOTHER INSTRUCTIONAL TIPPING THREAD YOU STUPID SONS OF BITCHES "

11/16/2005 9:44:39 PM