first you crash your "rainbow warrior" boat into a coral reef destroying a pristine habitat

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asia-pacific/4395572.stm

now you're wreaking havoc in the rainforests and accelerating their destruction:

http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=mg18825265.400&feedId=online-news_rss20

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 12:56 PM. Reason : s]

11/22/2005 12:54:58 PM

11/22/2005 12:56:28 PM

i'd run too if i saw environmentalists like these offering suggestions

11/22/2005 12:57:26 PM

fuckers kept them from scuttling a decommissioned aircraft carrier down here in pensacola. it was to be the world's largest artificial reef, i think.

it's finally gonna go ahead now, but about a year behind schedule or something.

11/22/2005 12:57:33 PM

the environment is one of those places i routinely break away from the left

fuck it

either it kills us or we kill it

when it starts fighting back, maybe i'll change my tune

11/22/2005 1:05:42 PM

i thought global warming was going to kill us?

or el niño?

looks like it's at least trying to fight back

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 1:10 PM. Reason : f]

11/22/2005 1:09:29 PM

matt, I gotta admit, you're an awesome troll... It's difficult to keep myself from arguing with you. you do a great job. seriously.

11/22/2005 1:17:41 PM

that's because i raise compelling arguments

you deal with them by calling me a troll. that's ok - i'm used to it by now

11/22/2005 1:22:35 PM

if it looks like a duck....and it quacks like duck.....

11/22/2005 1:24:37 PM

o<

quack quack

11/22/2005 1:25:06 PM

Quote :

"that's because i raise compelling arguments you deal with them by calling me a troll. that's ok - i'm used to it by now"

that's because you raise them by being overtly antagonistic, you do it on purpose, and you're trying to raise people's ire. Therefore, you're trolling.

11/22/2005 1:26:05 PM

Help us stop the rainforest before it's too late.

11/22/2005 1:30:54 PM

I can understand how a liberal would perceive frank discussion about the impact of their ideology to be overtly antagonistic. But if you'd take off your lefty blinders for a minute, you'd realize that its the ideology itself and its consequences to society that is the true source of the perceived negativity.

11/22/2005 1:31:48 PM

(just thought i'd throw you a bone)

if i'm gonna be castigated i might as well get some real trolling out of it

11/22/2005 1:32:45 PM

do environmentalists actually do anything productive?

or do they just complain and tell people to stop consuming the earth?

11/22/2005 2:55:06 PM

I disagree DirtyGreek. Trolling requires some level of intelligence to setup us up teh bomb. Excoriator actually believes he's making a point of sorts when dumbs down the IQ of all TWW readers.

11/22/2005 3:22:41 PM

excoriator, if the stickers you plastered all over you car are indicative of you beliefs, then you are in fact the best troll ever.

11/22/2005 3:26:26 PM

I don't doubt the validity of this claim; surely there are enterprising folks out there chopping down massive amounts of forests in order to create biofuels from the plant matter they replace it with. The problem I have with the article is how it makes it sound like this is the only way to create such fuels. The issue that is causing these forests to be destroyed isn't that biofuels cause forest devastation; it's that people are quick to chop down forests for money. There are countless ways to get biofuels from plant matter in a relatively sustainable way, but if you're greedy or ignorant or just plain exploitative, you probably do think that mowing down forests to plant cash crops is a good idea.

The solution? Massive amounts more education so that people can understand all of the sources out there for biofuels that are sustainable, including logging waste, used cooking oil, etc. Rather than going out and chopping down trees to feed the new energy fad, we should be approaching this carefully and intelligently, unlike the way that oil came into the picture - with a bunch of explosions and a huge cloud of smoke.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:38 PM. Reason : ,]

11/22/2005 3:26:34 PM

Education has always been the answer that it all comes down to when discussing how to better the environment, conservation, and preservation issues. Unfortunately there are too many people out there that refuse to learn about it, or hear it but don't actually listen and partake.

Oh, and yes there are environmentalists that don't just stand by and complain. Many volunteer at conservation/preservation organizations, or better yet get jobs that are actually related with the environment such as becoming park rangers, wildlife biologists, wildlife managers, just to name a few.

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:33 PM. Reason : ]

11/22/2005 3:30:52 PM

i recycle

11/22/2005 3:32:45 PM

^^ they aren't chopping down the forests for bio-fuel, they're chopping down the forests and then planting soybeans and corn to create bio-fuel.

also,

Quote :

"Excoriator actually believes he's making a point of sorts when dumbs down the IQ of all TWW readers."

as if that's not a troll

11/22/2005 3:33:34 PM

you're right. I fixed it.



the bastion of conservativism, excoriator

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/22/2005 3:34:50 PM

the christian right would not approve

11/22/2005 3:38:42 PM

i'm hardly a conservative.

i just happen to have common sense. i can understand how liberals would confuse the two.

11/22/2005 3:40:19 PM

if you arent a liberal, you must be a conservative.

11/22/2005 3:41:22 PM

you're either with me or you're with the terrorists

everything is black & white in the world of sober

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:42 PM. Reason : s]

11/22/2005 3:41:43 PM

IF YOU DONT LIKE THE WAY WE DO THINGS HERE THEN GET THE HELL OUT

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:43 PM. Reason : o<]

11/22/2005 3:42:41 PM

o< o<

11/22/2005 3:43:35 PM

I'm an environmentally minded conservative. they do exist!

11/22/2005 3:43:37 PM

Quote :

"everything is black & white in the world of sober "

if i added purple, would you hug me?

11/22/2005 3:44:25 PM

I used to totally buy into Excoriator's threads

[Edited on November 22, 2005 at 3:47 PM. Reason : O< ]

11/22/2005 3:46:48 PM

i've always bought into my threads.

eventually the liberals on here decided en masse that the only way to avoid the points I was making was to falsely label me a troll.

typical smear attempt by the left. nothing new

11/22/2005 3:50:36 PM

FOILED AGAIN!

11/22/2005 3:51:26 PM

11/22/2005 3:53:00 PM

a foiled duck

11/22/2005 3:57:11 PM

^
Is that a duck?

11/22/2005 4:47:02 PM

o<

11/22/2005 4:49:04 PM

that's a foiled swan, not a duck.

11/22/2005 4:53:34 PM

11/22/2005 5:09:15 PM