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"A computer disc about the size of a DVD that can hold 60 times more data is set to go on sale in 2006. The disc stores information through the interference of light – a technique known as holographic memory.

The discs, developed by InPhase Technologies, based in Colorado, US, hold 300 gigabytes of data and can be used to read and write data 10 times faster than a normal DVD. The company, along with Japanese partner Hitachi Maxell announced earlier in November that they would start selling the discs and compatible drives from the end of 2006.

"Unlike other technologies, that record one data bit at a time, holography allows a million bits of data to be written and read in parallel with a single flash of light," says Liz Murphy, of InPhase Technologies. "This enables transfer rates significantly higher than current optical storage devices."

The discs, at 13 centimetres across, are a little wider than conventional DVDs, and slightly thicker. Normal DVDs record data by measuring microscopic ridges on the surface of a spinning disc. Two competing successors to the DVD format – Blu-ray and HD-DVD – use the same technique but exploit shorter wavelengths of light to cram more information onto a surface."


Article:
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn8370

Video:
http://www.inphase-technologies.com/media/inphase_promo.mov

Product Tour:
http://www.inphase-technologies.com/technology/tour/index.html

11/25/2005 1:56:56 PM

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vaporware

11/25/2005 2:02:08 PM

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not vaporware, but definitely still not ready for mass market. And holographic memory cubes will probably be the big guns.

11/25/2005 3:43:07 PM

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"And holographic memory cubes will probably be the big guns."


star trek.

11/26/2005 8:30:32 PM

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^ Weren't those isolinear chips?

(I don'tsee this as vaporware because the technology has been successfully demonstrated. It will inevitably make it to the market. It might not be as optimistic as next year, but it will likely be before the end of the decade.

The problem with vaporware has been that a company has high hopes and claims but they don't ever come up with anything but a barely-functional mock-up if even that.

[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 9:15 PM. Reason : +]

11/26/2005 9:14:57 PM

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"barely-functional mock-up"


exactly

11/26/2005 11:02:53 PM

Noen
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various forms of holographic memory have been up and operating since the mid 90's. Scaling the drives down to a small physical size has been the problem, not the technology itself.

11/27/2005 12:29:02 AM

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"Scaling the drives down to a small physical size has been the problem"


yea....

11/27/2005 12:33:29 AM

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dipshit, you called it vaporware. It's been working in lab environments for years, hence it's NOT VAPORWARE.

It works, its just still too expensive for the mass market.

11/27/2005 4:25:26 PM

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I dub this topic... "Noen-ed"

11/28/2005 12:25:59 PM

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i wonder how much it will cost...blu-ray is retarded because no one wants to pay for it

11/28/2005 12:31:40 PM

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"It's been working in lab environments for years"


yes, and its always going to hit the market within a year

getting mad at me for calling this type of product vaporware is like getting mad at me for saying that breaking into a computer system is hacking ("omf its cracking not hacking, dipshit!!!")

[Edited on November 28, 2005 at 1:07 PM. Reason : s]

11/28/2005 1:07:16 PM

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"^ Weren't those isolinear chips?"


they had those under control panels, but if they wanted to store/simulate vast amounts of data - they would put it in a holocube or something.

they used it in an episode where data played sherlock holmes.

11/30/2005 2:17:43 AM

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^^Actually, douche, the timetable for mass market has been set at 2005-2010 since the first I ever heard of it back in 96-97. It's never been stated as "a year away" as long as I have ever read about the technology.

Now this latest shit about holographic discs is some new garbage, and I have no clue what their deal is, but holographic memory is, so far as I know, still on track.

11/30/2005 3:17:45 AM

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Get some sleep guys ... unless you at work

http://www.computerworld.com/hardwaretopics/storage/story/0,10801,106288,00.html
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"The holographic disk promises to retail for $100, and by 2010, it will have capacity of 1.6TB each. That’s pretty inexpensive,” said Ron Tarasoff, vice president of broadcast technology and engineering at Turner Entertainment. “Even this first version can store 300GB per disk, and it has 160MB/sec. data throughput rates. That’s burning. Then combine it with random access, and it’s the best of all worlds"


Dunno if the promise will hold through ... but:
-VHS when they hit the market (late 70s) were expensive and nobody wanted them.
-CD ROMs when they hit the market (late 80s?) were expensive and nobody wanted them.
-CD Burners when they hit the market (mid 90s?) were expensive and nobody wanted them.
-DVD ROMs when they hit the market (96ish) were expensive and nobody wanted them.
-DVD Burners when they hit the market (01ish?) were expensive and nobody wanted them.

I say this isn’t too farfetched and give the competitors time to catch up with the technology.

11/30/2005 5:59:52 AM

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^ Yeah. The technology works, it just has to be more economical - and it will.

And I wouldn't say nobody wanted those technologies ... most of the people who wanted them just couldn't afford them.

11/30/2005 8:39:17 AM

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Noen, let me draw your attention to something...

Thread Title:
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"Holographic Discs"


My Response:
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"vaporware"


Your Response:
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"Now this latest shit about holographic discs is some new garbage"


Can't we all just get along? Why are you berating me for stating the obvious - are you just jealous that you didn't get to poo-poo on the concept first?

[Edited on November 30, 2005 at 8:56 AM. Reason : s]

11/30/2005 8:55:38 AM

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go back under the bridge, where you belong...

11/30/2005 8:57:27 AM

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This thread has been marked as classically as Noen could.

1. Argue semantics
2. Invent stuff to back the obtuse angle with which the semantics are being argued
3.
4. Profit

11/30/2005 8:57:48 AM

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Shit, I did it again.

I concede to excoriator until such time as I care to see where holographic "discs" came from. If it's the same people I will be seriously disappointed.

^

11/30/2005 12:57:14 PM

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"are you just jealous that you didn't get to poo-poo on the concept first?"


you're wrong, but i lol'd

11/30/2005 1:15:58 PM

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