Im sorry but thats gay.

Davis sucks at football dont get me wrong, but he is obviously better than Stone.


I don't have a problem with giving Stone the last couple games to get some experience since we'll probably be forced to bench him on his senior day too...

but let Davis play at least a series. Its obvious Stone cant throw for more than 100 yards a game, might as well give a senior a chance to do something

11/26/2005 5:55:39 PM

we won

/thread

11/26/2005 5:57:20 PM

the crowd would've burned both davis and amato in effigy if they'd seen davis coming in. thats because we have a lot of stupid fans.

11/26/2005 5:59:25 PM

that is gay

on the possession after the fumble where we scored a field goal, we should have thrown the ball and scored a touchdown

then we would have been safer in the points game

and allowed jay to come in at least play in an environment where the everyone concerned could say "well, if he fucks up...we'lll still be winning"


but nooooooo, after the fumble we ran the ball every down and put the game in Maryland's hands to lose

the choice to do that didn't make me comfortable that we would win the game until Hudson intercepted the ball and saved the game

[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 6:00 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/26/2005 5:59:25 PM

who cares?

restart thread


winning doesnt matter, this is the Amato administration.

we're just playing for next year's hype... nothing more, nothing less

11/26/2005 5:59:45 PM

we won

/thread

11/26/2005 5:59:52 PM

you are too young to know anything about NC State, bucky


Herb got railed for not playing his seniors


Amato should too

11/26/2005 6:00:54 PM

^^^ Shut up you dipshit

[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 6:01 PM. Reason : x]

11/26/2005 6:00:57 PM

Chris Moore never played a snap at QB his whole career...we gonna put him in too?

huh?

huh?

let them each take a knee for us?

11/26/2005 6:05:14 PM

davis has had a season and a half to play

one day doesnt matter

11/26/2005 6:05:58 PM

With what was on the line, Jay shouldn't have started



Some people bitch about everything

11/26/2005 6:07:02 PM

yeah, I mean at least give him a couple snaps. hell, they could have let him take a knee at the end of the game.

11/26/2005 6:07:17 PM

Chris Moore doesnt count because he wasn't as good as Stone.

He didnt contribute during his career.



I totally understand benching Davis (who in NCAA '06 would be a 67) for Stone (who would be a 59) because Stone is two years younger.

But on senior day let the senior play some... esp. in this case since he's the better of the two options.

11/26/2005 6:07:45 PM

im too young, hardly, 4th generation NCSU student, thinkkkkk i know quite alot about fball and basketball of the past...want me to break out old pics and tix guess i will...i know herb got railed but basketball is completely different...many many more stops and dead balls. in Football one screw up can cost the game, and if we play him, every other senior needs to play, there wouldnt be a double standard...the argument makes no sense...Stone wins when he is in

and if i was jay and i took one snap to end my career...one measley pitiful knee...i would feel really bad, glad he didnt elect 2 if he was given the chance.

so therefore

we won

/thread

[Edited on November 26, 2005 at 6:10 PM. Reason : .]

11/26/2005 6:08:52 PM

I think Hollenbach threw the game for us.

11/26/2005 6:10:14 PM

Quote :

"With what was on the line, Jay shouldn't have started "

We would have had a better passing game throughout the first half if he had started

but this isn't about him starting...it's about him playing

because we abandoned the pass after Stone's interception, there was no way Jay could have played

11/26/2005 6:11:27 PM

Quote :

"i know herb got railed but basketball is completely different...many many more stops and dead balls. in Football one screw up can cost the game, and if we play him, every other senior needs to play, there wouldnt be a double standard...the argument makes no sense...Stone wins when he is in"

/thread

11/26/2005 6:11:47 PM

all i know is


going 4-1 with Stone as QB is damn impressive.


I dont think any other team in the nation could win 4 games by throwing for 75 yards a game.


Now if Amato ever figures out to recruit 5 OL's and 1 RB instead of 1 OL and 5 RB's we might even be allowed to start scheduling Division I teams...

Who knows we might even start winning two home games every year!!!

He's revitalized the program!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11/26/2005 6:12:45 PM

Quote :

"I dont think any other team in the nation could win 4 games by throwing for 75 yards a game."

you can when one team is so bad that you turnover the ball 4 times and still win

and another team forgets basic football fundamentals (snapping and passing the ball)

11/26/2005 6:14:55 PM

you make some of the worst arguments ever, u got a little kid over there thats coming up with this reasoning?

sike, i love haters and doubters, cuz when success happens, u guys just have to eat it

11/26/2005 6:17:29 PM

I think some people just get on here to piss others off

Surely there's no one this stupid

11/26/2005 6:18:11 PM

i agree

11/26/2005 6:18:40 PM

yea ive decided charlie has been on a troll mission every since the whole site was against him.

if you people would just get over him being retarded and move along then he would stop

11/26/2005 6:19:48 PM

i think some people are blinded by success

when in fact, success = mediocrity

11/26/2005 6:20:04 PM

i think you should shut the fuck up

11/26/2005 6:20:58 PM

Who's blinded?


You think people are going to say this is a good team? It's not. But how about we quit bitching about things that are discussed ad-nauseum and actually celebrate the fact that this team came back from 2-4 to become bowl eligible despite having the worst QB situation in the nation aside from the New York Jets.

Is that so hard?

11/26/2005 6:22:34 PM

just stop taking troll bait people

if you are bored


go to the bar

talk to women

instead of this guy

11/26/2005 6:23:21 PM

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11/26/2005 6:23:31 PM

Quote :

"celebrate the fact that this team came back from 2-4 to become bowl eligible despite having the worst QB situation in the nation aside from the New York Jets."

i just disagree

it's not that we came back

we could have got here with jay

we just abandoned him and put in Stone to spring faith in the team by the fans

11/26/2005 6:25:12 PM

THIS SHIT HAS BEEN HASHED OVER 5 BAJILLION TIMES

STOP HUMORING THIS FAGGOT

11/26/2005 6:25:54 PM

^^ okay, well whatever.

We came back. Kudos to our team. Lets build on it for next year. Whiskey for my beer, men for my horses

11/26/2005 6:27:02 PM

it isn't tradition or expected in football, especially when you have a game of this caliber on the line.

there was no reason to play Davis today b/c he was a senior. How do you explain that to the other seniors that didn't get to play?
"well... jay has played before...so uh...we let him go in"...no it doesn't fly like that

basketball tradition maybe, but not football

11/26/2005 6:36:10 PM

We should have put in every senior on the team regardless if they or 4th string or not

11/26/2005 6:43:37 PM

it's a good thing there's still something to bitch about

11/26/2005 7:17:33 PM

haha


i will at least agree with rally about chuck needing to recruit 5 OL and 1 RB instead of the other way around. and no, jay should not have played today.

11/26/2005 10:41:01 PM

we won

/thread

11/26/2005 10:55:08 PM

Quote :

"Davis sucks at football dont get me wrong, but he is obviously better than Stone."

WRONG.

Quote :

"might as well give a senior a chance to do something"

we did that for 6 games and got squat.

However, I do agree that it is pretty shitty not to let Davis play at least a series...

Quote :

"We would have had a better passing game to the other team throughout the first half if he had started"

Quote :

"we could have got here with jay"

we would have never gotten there with jay. The one thing that Stone brings to this team is a downfield passing presence. It might not be much of one, but it is still there. Davis can barely complete fucking screen passes. When Davis was in, all teams had to do was run a 46 defense and put the LB in the flats and we would go NOWHERE. With Stone, the other team is forced to be a little more honest, because when they stop being honest, Stone eventually gets a couple passes off into the depleted secondary and our receivers have a field day. Then, the other team has to be honest, and it re-opens the running game.

11/26/2005 11:05:03 PM

I don't think Jay or Marcus should've played today.
Daniel Evans should've played today.

Amato knows Jay and Marcus are both incapable of making a simple pass to an open receiver. Any moron quarterback can hand off the ball to the running back. Why not at least give Daniel Evans a shot? He couldn't possibly be any worse than the other two. He's most likely the future of this team as far as quarterbacks go. I'd love to see him start in the bowl game.

11/26/2005 11:43:28 PM

this place hasn't been the same without rally

11/26/2005 11:53:28 PM

if Davis didn't suck and hadn't lost the starting job then he wouldn't have been in this position...

he sucks. good riddance.

11/27/2005 12:01:54 AM

wait, what was stone's starting record this year? and what was jay's? i seriously hope all you people who complain that he doesnt get it done burn in hell, especially next year when hes owns.

11/27/2005 11:05:19 AM

^Very wishful thinking there pal. How many passing yards for the year does he have? We are in trouble because we cannot keep depending on our defense to be so good and not be able to pass the ball.

11/27/2005 11:09:27 AM

Tresman has to figure out how to get marcus out of his 1st half 1-infinity complete passes-passing attempt ratio

11/27/2005 11:10:32 AM

It's not that Marcus sucks in the first half at all. It's that we're too conservative becuase we don't have much to work with.


1st half we play way too safe... and we usually fall behind.

2nd half, there's nothing to lose so they open it up.... and to tell you the truth Marcus made a few really nice short throws yesterday to drive down the field. We just wont let him throw it unless we get behind for some reason. I mean, I agree with not letting him throw it on our own 25 yard line... but we should have let him throw it more.

Now, I'm not sure if its:

1) Marcus too scared in the first half and the coaches telling him at halftime, "You've got to lead us back into this game" or
2) Coaches play run all first half until we get down, then just let it all hang out and make marcus throw in the 2nd half


It's not that Marcus gets mysteriously better in the 2nd half IMO

11/27/2005 11:15:43 AM

it's either

-the play calling in the first half is called to fool the other team for the second half

-Marcus isn't confident throwing the ball until he gets into a rhythm

-Marcus is scared to throw the ball b/c he doesn't want to throw an interception (which he will) and have the crowd turn on him (which they will)

-at halftime Amato threatens Marcus that he'll put Jay in if he doesn't step up


i also think the coaches are afraid of continuing the pass after miscues

after Stone's first floating pass ofer the receiver, we didn't pass the ball for a while

and after the interception we abandoned the pass all together and came really close to almost losing the game

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 11:27 AM. Reason : adsf]

11/27/2005 11:23:15 AM

Quote :

"and after the interception we abandoned the pass all together and came really close to almost losing the game"

No Dumbass, its called clock management.

We had the ball under 4 minutes left and they only had one Timeout.

We run the ball to get three first downs and the game is over. We only got two and were forced to punt.

passing at all, even short dump passes would have been absolutely brainless in that situation.

11/27/2005 11:35:25 AM

^wow, the faggot complains about how stone sucks then he wants stone to throw the ball at a critical point in the game. Truly charlie is the height of stupidity.


gee, what has a better probability of success: stone throwing the ball or the defense holding. durrrr

there are some really stupid posters, here

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 11:42 AM. Reason : sdf]

11/27/2005 11:40:19 AM

I think it would have been foolish to mess with the formula which had us winning the last 3 of 4 (and now 4 of 5). You cannot fucking argue with 4-1 as a starter, forget about the fucking stats otherwise.

11/27/2005 11:40:57 AM

Quote :

"No Dumbass, its called clock management. We had the ball under 4 minutes left and they only had one Timeout. We run the ball to get three first downs and the game is over. We only got two and were forced to punt. passing at all, even short dump passes would have been absolutely brainless in that situation."

that's not what i'm talking about, i'm talking about after the sack/fumble and we had the ball on their 30 or 20 yard line

i would have rather had a touchdown than a field goal on our last score so Maryland wouldn't have the possibilty of making an awesome play and scoring on us at the end of the game to win it

then we could have ran the ball all we wanted to

[Edited on November 27, 2005 at 11:50 AM. Reason : dsaf]

11/27/2005 11:48:54 AM

Quote :

"i would have rather had a touchdown than a field goal "

LOL.

I think that typically goes for EVERY FUCKING FOOTBALL PLAYER, COACH, AND FAN OF EVERY TEAM IN AMERICA.

wtf is your point?

we couldnt get in the end zone so we kicked for three instead.

Quote :

"i would have rather had a touchdown than a field goal "

LMGDAO!! A PRICELESS QUOTE FROM THE LAMEST PERSON THAT I E-HATE!!!

11/27/2005 12:29:45 PM